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I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.
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On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
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I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either.
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I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


Oregon grape - with large evergreen leaves rather like holly, but
flatter. In the autumn, the leaves which will be shed go the colours of
a spectacular sunset, and the racemes of yellow flowers appear in the
winter and smell strongly, remeniscent of lily of the valley.

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I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


Oregon grape - with large evergreen leaves rather like holly, but
flatter. In the autumn, the leaves which will be shed go the colours of
a spectacular sunset, and the racemes of yellow flowers appear in the
winter and smell strongly, remeniscent of lily of the valley.

I assume you mean Mahonia x intermedia, not Mahonia aquifolium. In my
experience Oregon grape is restricted to the latter, and perhaps a few
related species (e.g. M. nervosa, M. pinnata, M. repens)
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Sacha wrote:
On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
, "Jim Scott"
wrote:

I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either.


Another vote for Daphne odora Aureomarginata. Plant Cyclamen Hedrapholia
and C. Coum underneath.

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Sacha wrote:
On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
, "Jim Scott"
wrote:

I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.

The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly
scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either.


Another vote for Daphne odora Aureomarginata. Plant Cyclamen
Hedrapholia and C. Coum underneath.

For winter flowering and scent there's Daphne bholua, especially
'Jacqueline Postill'.
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On 20/1/09 09:51, in article , "Stewart Robert
Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Paul Luton
writes
Sacha wrote:
On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
, "Jim Scott"
wrote:

I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.
The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly
scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either.


Another vote for Daphne odora Aureomarginata. Plant Cyclamen
Hedrapholia and C. Coum underneath.

For winter flowering and scent there's Daphne bholua, especially
'Jacqueline Postill'.


That's really gorgeous but it does need a lot of room. Whatever the books
may say, one of ours - now sadly dead - grew to about 12' height and spread.
I think it would gobble up a small front garden.

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Oregon grape - with large evergreen leaves rather like holly, but
flatter. In the autumn, the leaves which will be shed go the colours of
a spectacular sunset, and the racemes of yellow flowers appear in the
winter and smell strongly, remeniscent of lily of the valley.

I assume you mean Mahonia x intermedia, not Mahonia aquifolium. In my
experience Oregon grape is restricted to the latter, and perhaps a few
related species (e.g. M. nervosa, M. pinnata, M. repens)


No idea which variety - I have one and use the 'grapes' for jelly - if I
remember to birdproof them in time.

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:10:28 GMT, Jim Scott
wrote:

I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


Get a sarcococca. Mine is flowering at the moment, but you don't
really see the flowers; you smell them. They like the shady garden,
are evergreen, make a clump no more than a yard high, which slowly
enlarges outwards. The scent jumps out at me when I walk past it.
You can't beat it at this point of the year.

Pam in Bristol
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On Jan 19, 6:53*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
, "Jim Scott"

wrote:
I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! *Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either..
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Sacha would he be able to buy a Daphne for under £15? I can remember
buying a small one years ago in England and it cost about that then?

Judith


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France" wrote:

On Jan 19, 6:53*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 19/1/09 18:10, in article
, "Jim Scott"

wrote:
I have a £15 token to spend.
My small front garden faces NE so only gets sun early in the day.
Fuchsias do OK, hydrangia, campanula, euonimus, pieris and of course privet
too. A Japenese maple was killed by the cold wind.
I would like to introduce a couple of shrubs to flower over the winter. I
see Hebes as I move around the area, but don't know the variety.
I probably don't want anything over 100cm/3 feet tall.
Ideas please.
Note the area below.


The Sarcococcas would be good, I think and they're very highly scented.
They probably go to somewhere between 3' and 4' but you can keep many things
where you want them! *Daphone odora Aureomarginata is another wonderfully
scented winter flowering plant and it's not a big thug of a thing, either.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Sacha would he be able to buy a Daphne for under £15? I can remember
buying a small one years ago in England and it cost about that then?

Judith



I should think so but it will depend on size. But personally, I'd go for a
Sarococca confusa or a Sarcococca hookerianum. The former is probably
easier to find but the latter is just a tiny bit more interesting because of
its stems being reddish. Otherwise, there's nothing in it for scent, IMO.
There's also Lonicera purpusii but IMO the Sarcococcas beat them hands down
for scent.

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Oregon grape - with large evergreen leaves rather like holly, but
flatter. In the autumn, the leaves which will be shed go the colours of
a spectacular sunset, and the racemes of yellow flowers appear in the
winter and smell strongly, remeniscent of lily of the valley.

I assume you mean Mahonia x intermedia, not Mahonia aquifolium. In my
experience Oregon grape is restricted to the latter, and perhaps a few
related species (e.g. M. nervosa, M. pinnata, M. repens)


No idea which variety - I have one and use the 'grapes' for jelly - if I
remember to birdproof them in time.


You probably do mean Mahonia aquifolium then. I think of it as a
spring-flowering shrub, rather than a winter-flowering shrub. Mahonia x
intermedia flowers considerably earlier. (On the other hand, it's rather
on the big side, given the OP's criteria.)
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No idea which variety - I have one and use the 'grapes' for jelly - if I
remember to birdproof them in time.


You probably do mean Mahonia aquifolium then. I think of it as a
spring-flowering shrub, rather than a winter-flowering shrub. Mahonia x
intermedia flowers considerably earlier. (On the other hand, it's rather
on the big side, given the OP's criteria.)


My one is reaching for the light, and is about four feet high - but well
over six feet long...

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No idea which variety - I have one and use the 'grapes' for jelly - if I
remember to birdproof them in time.


You probably do mean Mahonia aquifolium then. I think of it as a
spring-flowering shrub, rather than a winter-flowering shrub. Mahonia x
intermedia flowers considerably earlier. (On the other hand, it's rather
on the big side, given the OP's criteria.)


My one is reaching for the light, and is about four feet high - but well
over six feet long...

Mahonia x intermedia can get to 8 or 10 feet tall - but, yes, Mahonia
aquifolium does have a tendency to spread.
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No idea which variety - I have one and use the 'grapes' for jelly - if I
remember to birdproof them in time.


You probably do mean Mahonia aquifolium then. I think of it as a
spring-flowering shrub, rather than a winter-flowering shrub. Mahonia x
intermedia flowers considerably earlier. (On the other hand, it's rather
on the big side, given the OP's criteria.)


My one is reaching for the light, and is about four feet high - but well
over six feet long...

Mahonia x intermedia can get to 8 or 10 feet tall - but, yes, Mahonia
aquifolium does have a tendency to spread.


All from the single root - but it's in a very shady spot. (Not the
Houses of Parliament...)

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