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How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? I have been putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


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How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? I have been putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


Dunno who told you that - AFAIK bleached paper works just as well as
unbleached.

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On 29 Jan, 20:47, "Sheila" wrote:
How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? * I have been putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


Suck it and see. Oh no, wait a minute bleach is poisonous isn't it? Ah
well at least it might kill the rats.
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How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? I have been putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


Dunno who told you that - AFAIK bleached paper works just as well as
unbleached.



Its in the book "Compost" by Claire Foster. On page 40. she says..."Cereal
packets and loo rolls can be used as well as tissues and unbleached paper.
Don't add bleached paper as it contains chlorine, which can be harmful to
the living organisms in the heap"


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Is Claire Foster bleached or unbleached? ITWSBT

What evidence is there that bleached paper still contains chlorine?

http://home.scarlet.be/~ping5859/Eng/ChlorineAlt.html
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I haven't got a clue, that's why I'm asking opinions! Do other gardeners put
paper in their heaps, I put basically mail that I don't want any more, saves
shredding it! and I rip the plastic off the envelopes.




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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:41:00 GMT, Sheila wrote:

I haven't got a clue, that's why I'm asking opinions! Do other gardeners
put
paper in their heaps, I put basically mail that I don't want any more,
saves
shredding it! and I rip the plastic off the envelopes.


I put kitchen paper into my compost but not anything other kind of paper.
How long does it take for other papers to rot down Sheila ?
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Hi Val,
I put any paper including kitchen roll. I just rip it all up.
I always have a bin full of red worms chewing away.
I have three bins going. Never really thought about how long it take for
paper to rot down.
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On 30 Jan, 13:48, Martin wrote:

It seems tea bags contain chlorine and dioxines. So, no more used tea bags on
the garden )


Where has that Dutch good taste gone? Tea bags are not fit to line
your dustbin. If you want a decent cup of tea buy leaf tea and mix two
thirds strong tea with one third Earl Grey and you will never use a
tea bag again!
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How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? I have been

putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


This advice site of the RHS http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/ has the
compost heap as one of its topics for this month, but they make no
reference to bleached paper.

You may also find this site of interest http://tinyurl.com/bc655t

Your main concern is how do you tell whether or not there is chlorine or
dioxins in the bleached paper which you wish to compost. Much
information on the subject he http://tinyurl.com/b4t6t

http://www.naturalnews.com/022784.html

http://tinyurl.com/djn5bt

Bear in mind that I know nothing about this subject but, now that you
have raised it, I find it interesting and I will not be composting any
bleached products until someone satisfies me that they are safe.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.


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I put any paper including kitchen roll. I just rip it all up.
I always have a bin full of red worms chewing away.
I have three bins going. Never really thought about how long it take for
paper to rot down.


I put shredded paper from letters etc on the heap, along with cereal
packets and other cardboard from food processing, cardboard boxes with
the parcel tape removed, etc. Glossy magazine type paper seems to take
longer to rot down, so I take that to the council recycling place. The
rest of the stuff certainly rots within the timescale of the rest of the
heap - ie the partially rotted stuff has recognisable paper in it, the
fully rotted stuff does not.

When I'm emptying bins I notice that the partially rotted paper seems
particularly attractive to the worms - I can lift out handfuls of them,
like live spaghetti.
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How do I know which paper is bleached/unbleached? * I have been putting
paper in my compost heap, but just read you shouldn't put bleached
in......oh no, how do I find out!


Suck it and see. Oh no, wait a minute bleach is poisonous isn't it? Ah
well at least it might kill the rats.


The bleach doesn't remain, or writing in water-based ink would become
invisible.

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Its in the book "Compost" by Claire Foster. On page 40. she says..."Cereal
packets and loo rolls can be used as well as tissues and unbleached paper.
Don't add bleached paper as it contains chlorine, which can be harmful to
the living organisms in the heap"


It doesn't contain chlorine.

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I haven't got a clue, that's why I'm asking opinions! Do other
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paper in their heaps, I put basically mail that I don't want any more,
saves
shredding it! and I rip the plastic off the envelopes.


It goes into my compost. Nowadays there isn't any lead in it either:
lead is potentially much more hazardous as I believe apple trees take it
up and it appears in apple peel.

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It seems tea bags contain chlorine and dioxines. So, no more used tea
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the garden )


Teabags don't contain chlorine either (though the material is bleached),
and if they contain dioxins someone isn't doing their job.

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On 30 Jan, 13:48, Martin wrote:

It seems tea bags contain chlorine and dioxines. So, no more used
tea bags on
the garden )


Where has that Dutch good taste gone? Tea bags are not fit to line
your dustbin. If you want a decent cup of tea buy leaf tea and mix two
thirds strong tea with one third Earl Grey and you will never use a
tea bag again!


Hurrah!

I haven't a teabag in the house. I've over twenty varieties of leaf tea,
and yes, you can tell the difference between a proper pot of tea and one
with teabags in it.

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On 30 Jan, 13:48, Martin wrote:

It seems tea bags contain chlorine and dioxines. So, no more used
tea bags on
the garden )


Where has that Dutch good taste gone?


They never had any. BTW I'm not Dutch.


Tea bags are not fit to line
your dustbin.


UK supermarkets are stuffed with boxes of tea bags.


What is this concept. 'supermarket'?

The Dutch haven't had dustbins for decades.


You mean they actually *EAT* those tomatoes?

If you want a decent cup of tea buy leaf tea and mix two
thirds strong tea with one third Earl Grey and you will never use a
tea bag again!


I rarely use tea bags, I prefer coffee. The Dutch & Germans dunk tea bags in
warm water.


They get that close to water?

At a job interview in NL, I was given a drink whilst I was waiting. I
asked what
the curious tasting luke warm liquid in a plastic cup was. The answer
was "tea".


Take your usual dose of builders tea and put it in a pot. Break up (but
don't powder) cinnamon bark, mace, star anise, black cardamoms, black
peppercorns, dried root ginger in approximately equal quantities, and in
about half by proportion, add some whole cloves.

Add the usual amount of cold water and place the pot on a low heat.
Remove from heat just before it boils.

Learnt that recipe from an Indian friend back in the 1950s...

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