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The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn
laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Perennials & shrubs online |
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"Sacha" wrote The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Funny thing is we haven't see or heard a frog lately yet I did hear one around Christmas. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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Sacha writes
The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. -- Kay |
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Bob Hobden writes
"Sacha" wrote The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Funny thing is we haven't see or heard a frog lately yet I did hear one around Christmas. The first of ours arrived in the breeding pond last night, though I came across one or two in the 'summer' pond back in January. Apparently some frogs overwinter in the mud at the bottom of ponds, others elsewhere. Overwintering in the pond gives a head start when the early females arrive, but presumably also a downside if the pond gets too foul if it's under ice for a long period - in which case overwintering elsewhere gives an advantage. -- Kay |
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wrote in message news Bob Hobden writes "Sacha" wrote The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Funny thing is we haven't see or heard a frog lately yet I did hear one around Christmas. The first of ours arrived in the breeding pond last night, though I came across one or two in the 'summer' pond back in January. Apparently some frogs overwinter in the mud at the bottom of ponds, others elsewhere. Overwintering in the pond gives a head start when the early females arrive, but presumably also a downside if the pond gets too foul if it's under ice for a long period - in which case overwintering elsewhere gives an advantage. -- Kay Fished a dead frog out of one pond this afternoon, The pond was frozen over for quite some time during the last cold spell so suspect it may have been starved of oxygen, water is really dank and black since it thawed out. Great shame. |
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Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. Now THAT depends where you are on the globe! It's like saying a before b or whatever Sweeping statements are "misleading" Part_No |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
... The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Toadspawn (and I don't mean the labour govt!) generally comes a couple of weeks after that of the frogs. If you've fish in the pond then you will need to "fish" the toad spawn out because it's poisonous. Toadspawn is recognisable for being in a longthread. And it's a burden to get out because the knot of toads go round and round every plant in their extended orgy. |
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Part_No writes
Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. Now THAT depends where you are on the globe! It's like saying a before b or whatever Sweeping statements are "misleading" This is uk.rec.gardening, which is about gardening in the uk. It is therefore not necessary to prefix every statement with "in the uk". However, to clarify for those who may be under the misapprehension I was talking about Africa: "February is early to find spawn of Bufo bufo in the UK. In the UK Bufo bufo spawns in March and early April, compared with Rana temporaria, which spawns between January and March". -- Kay |
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Part_No wrote:
Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. Now THAT depends where you are on the globe! Err, UK? (group name gives a clue) Generally we find the toads are about 3 to 4 weeks later than the frogs. Usually frogs end of Feb (loads this year), toads end of March. Jeff NE England |
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"cineman" wrote in message ... wrote in message news Bob Hobden writes "Sacha" wrote The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Funny thing is we haven't see or heard a frog lately yet I did hear one around Christmas. The first of ours arrived in the breeding pond last night, though I came across one or two in the 'summer' pond back in January. Apparently some frogs overwinter in the mud at the bottom of ponds, others elsewhere. Overwintering in the pond gives a head start when the early females arrive, but presumably also a downside if the pond gets too foul if it's under ice for a long period - in which case overwintering elsewhere gives an advantage. -- Kay Fished a dead frog out of one pond this afternoon, The pond was frozen over for quite some time during the last cold spell so suspect it may have been starved of oxygen, water is really dank and black since it thawed out. Great shame. We've got frog spawn and more frogs trying to lay this afternoon until I accidentally spooked a couple. The ponds at the Woodside Animal Sanctuary seem to be moving with the mass of frogs or toads in the mud. |
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On 23/2/09 18:26, in article , "David
"Jamey" James" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Toadspawn (and I don't mean the labour govt!) generally comes a couple of weeks after that of the frogs. If you've fish in the pond then you will need to "fish" the toad spawn out because it's poisonous. Toadspawn is recognisable for being in a longthread. And it's a burden to get out because the knot of toads go round and round every plant in their extended orgy. I'm having a bit of trouble with the idea that toad spawn is poisonous. We have dozens of fish in two of the ponds and one of them has been in situ - toads and all - for fifty-odd years. The fish don't seem to come to any harm at all, so I'm a bit puzzled by that one. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Perennials & shrubs online |
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Jeff wrote in news:dICol.18122$OT2.16593
@newsfe29.ams2: Part_No wrote: Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. Now THAT depends where you are on the globe! Err, UK? (group name gives a clue) Err, is it not a fact that the UK is on our globe. Also we get some of the more exotiic varieties from elsewhere on the globe and they come to us via birds (carryng spawn) which visit other continents. How these spawns survive in our (UK) climate is not certain, but they do! Err, it also says gardening NOT gardens (group name gives a clue) Generally we find the toads are about 3 to 4 weeks later than the frogs. Usually frogs end of Feb (loads this year), toads end of March. Generally is untrue......sometimes is more accurate If you are saying that frogs and toads are indigenous to our UK, then you may be wrong..... Take care Part_No |
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I'm having a bit of trouble with the idea that toad spawn is poisonous. We have dozens of fish in two of the ponds and one of them has been in situ - toads and all - for fifty-odd years. The fish don't seem to come to any harm at all, so I'm a bit puzzled by that one. If you read the thread earlier it can maybe explain the question of poison cos of imports from birds etc. Part_No |
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On 23/2/09 15:57, in article , "K"
wrote: Sacha writes The fishponds are absolutely heaving with frogs and there's a lot of spawn laid already. I haven't seen any toadspawn yet. How about anyone else? Early for toads - they lay later than frogs. We may see some yet but we've noticed a switch in the balance of things. We used to get masses of toads and few frogs and now it seems to have changed around. We were all agreed that we've never seen anything like the display taking place yesterday! There were dozens of them, all on top of the water and not taking the slightest notice of interested human onlookers. Normally, they dive for cover as soon as dogs or people approach but not yesterday. The grand daughter caught 7 of them to photograph - I bet they were thrilled...... -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Perennials & shrubs online |
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