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Rusty, perhaps that should be: Inexperienced people should never prune
plums.

Some plums, whoever prunes them, shut-up-shop and refuse to fruit for
years.

That's just plain stroppy, but surely a varietal problem, rather than a
pruning problem.

Well, yes - if you prune the wrong variety...

I used to prune my Victoria plum tree most summers in good hot, dry
weather.
It was vigorous, healthy and very fruitful for about 15-18 years.

Victorias are an exception, I believe.

Lucky for me then :~), and lucky for the op, who happens to be growing
Victoria.


/prune/

Some plums.

Try pruning a greengage...

We tried a greengage, but the Husband Thingy signed it's death warrant
when
it was stingy with its fruit :~{. Who knows, patience may have been
rewarded ...

IME, they tend to have good years and bad ones. I was going to turn a
greengage tree into timber and firewood, and it must have got wind of
the intention, and was loaded with fruit that year...


Well, if ours had taken half as much notice, it might still be alive :~(

Spider
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Rusty
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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| "Judith in France" wrote in message
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| On Apr 9, 10:18 pm, Paul Luton wrote:
| I planted a pot grown Victoria plum (on Pixie) early last summer. It
| produced 2 plums and lost its leaves at the usual time. A week ago it
| opened one flower bud at the end of a branch but, after that dropped,
| nothing is happening. Soil around was on the dry side but with no
leaves
| it cannot be losing much water. I watered it well anyway. Does anyone
| have any ideas ?
|
| Thanks
|
| Paul
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| Paul, I am no expert. I had plums in my last garden in England. When
| did you prune the tree?
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| I don't think he did. Please read the post more carefully.

I think you should read the post more carefully, where in it does it say
anything about pruning? Judith asked a valid question which may have
impact
on his problem


It does not say anything in the original post about pruning but having quite
a few plum tree trees myself I know how they hate it. I was wondering if
he'd pruned them at the wrong time.
I did read the post carefully. I was asking if It had been pruned recently
which might have an impact on its death.

Spider wrote:

Try pruning a greengage...

We tried a greengage, but the Husband Thingy signed it's death warrant when
it was stingy with its fruit :~{. Who knows, patience may have been
rewarded ...

It took my 20 year old greengage quite a time to come into fruit, and it
only has a good crop every few years. But it's worth it for those few good
years. I have the impression that it crops better after a colder winter.
It certainly has wonderfully abundant blossom at the moment, so I'm hoping
this year will be a good crop.

"Jim Jackson" wrote in message
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Spider wrote:

Try pruning a greengage...

We tried a greengage, but the Husband Thingy signed it's death warrant
when
it was stingy with its fruit :~{. Who knows, patience may have been
rewarded ...

It took my 20 year old greengage quite a time to come into fruit, and it
only has a good crop every few years. But it's worth it for those few good
years. I have the impression that it crops better after a colder winter.
It certainly has wonderfully abundant blossom at the moment, so I'm hoping
this year will be a good crop.


Certainly hope you have a good crop, Jim. They're lovely fruit and, IMO,
worth a bit of trouble. However, even if I planted a new tree, in 20 years
time I don't think I'll be fit enough to pick the crop. Nevermind. Enjoy
yours.

Spider

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Paul, I am no expert. I had plums in my last garden in England. When
did you prune the tree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

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That was my point.

On Apr 16, 9:46*pm, "Christina Websell"
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Paul, I am no expert. *I had plums in my last garden in England. *When
did you prune the tree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

--

That was my point.

Then I have learned something, thanks Christina, the next plum I
plant, which may be this year, I won't prune it.

Judith

On 16 Apr, 23:23, Judith in France
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On Apr 16, 9:46*pm, "Christina Websell"



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Paul, I am no expert. *I had plums in my last garden in England. *When
did you prune thetree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

--

That was my point.

Then I have learned something, thanks Christina, the nextplumI
plant, which may be this year, I won't prune it.

Judith

I have a similar, but not so dramatic problem as the OP with my small
plum tree in a container. This is the first year it has flowered and I
was very pleased at that, but the flowers all died and dropped off.
Now the leaves are starting to do the same. They go dark brown at the
edges and then just wilt.

Some leaves still look healthy, but half of the tree is affected now
and I fear the worst. The only thing I have done is transplant the
tree to a larger tub a couple of months ago.

Could this be the reason? Do plums not like any disturbance? I did not
really upset the roots, because the whole rootball came out as one,
and i just dropped it in a larger container and filled around the
sides with compost.

I have looked at the diseases pages and nothing seems to fit with the
symptoms my tree is displaying. I realise that there is probably
nothing I can do but pray that it is strong enough to struggle on, but
I would like to know if I have killed it with kindness.

On Apr 27, 6:29*pm, wrote:
On 16 Apr, 23:23, Judith in France
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On Apr 16, 9:46*pm, "Christina Websell"

wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message

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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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from Judith in France contains these words:

Paul, I am no expert. *I had plums in my last garden in England.. *When
did you prune thetree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

--

That was my point.

Then I have learned something, thanks Christina, the nextplumI
plant, which may be this year, I won't prune it.

Judith

I have a similar, but not so dramatic problem as the OP with my small
plum tree in a container. This is the first year it has flowered and I
was very pleased at that, but the flowers all died and dropped off.
Now the leaves are starting to do the same. They go dark brown at the
edges and then just wilt.

Some leaves still look healthy, but half of the tree is affected now
and I fear the worst. The only thing I have done is transplant the
tree to a larger tub a couple of months ago.

Could this be the reason? Do plums not like any disturbance? I did not
really upset the roots, because the whole rootball came out as one,
and i just dropped it in a larger container and filled around the
sides with compost.

I have looked at the diseases pages and nothing seems to fit with the
symptoms my tree is displaying. I realise that there is probably
nothing I can do but pray that it is strong enough to struggle on, but
I would like to know if I have killed it with kindness.

Have you got leaves already? If the blossom was nipped by frost then
they would go brown. I still don't have leaves on my fruit trees.
There are many experts here on fruit trees who will be able to give
you better advice than I but good luck with it.

Judith

On 27 Apr, 18:39, Judith in France
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On Apr 27, 6:29*pm, wrote:



On 16 Apr, 23:23, Judith in France
wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:46*pm, "Christina Websell"

wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message

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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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from Judith in France contains these words:

Paul, I am no expert. *I had plums in my last garden in England. *When
did you prune thetree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

--

That was my point.

Then I have learned something, thanks Christina, the nextplumI
plant, which may be this year, I won't prune it.

Judith

I have a similar, but not so dramatic problem as the OP with my small
plum tree in a container. This is the first year it has flowered and I
was very pleased at that, but the flowers all died and dropped off.
Now the leaves are starting to do the same. They go dark brown at the
edges and then just wilt.

Some leaves still look healthy, but half of the tree is affected now
and I fear the worst. The only thing I have done is transplant the
tree to a larger tub a couple of months ago.

Could this be the reason? Do plums not like any disturbance? I did not
really upset the roots, because the whole rootball came out as one,
and i just dropped it in a larger container and filled around the
sides with compost.

I have looked at the diseases pages and nothing seems to fit with the
symptoms my tree is displaying. I realise that there is probably
nothing I can do but pray that it is strong enough to struggle on, but
I would like to know if I have killed it with kindness.

Have you got leaves already? *If the blossom was nipped by frost then
they would go brown. *I still don't have leaves on my fruit trees.
There are many experts here on fruit trees who will be able to give
you better advice than I but good luck with it.

Judith

Yes Judith, I have leaves on it, and we have not had a frost since the
flower buds appeared as I keep daily temperature records.

Some of the leaves appeared as normal, looked very healthy and have
since wilted, but leaves on the same stem are ok. It is very puzzling.

John

On Apr 28, 11:02*am, wrote:
On 27 Apr, 18:39, Judith in France
wrote:



On Apr 27, 6:29*pm, wrote:

On 16 Apr, 23:23, Judith in France
wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:46*pm, "Christina Websell"

wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message

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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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The message

from Judith in France contains these words:

Paul, I am no expert. *I had plums in my last garden in England. *When
did you prune thetree?

Never (or almost never) prune plums!

--

That was my point.

Then I have learned something, thanks Christina, the nextplumI
plant, which may be this year, I won't prune it.

Judith

I have a similar, but not so dramatic problem as the OP with my small
plum tree in a container. This is the first year it has flowered and I
was very pleased at that, but the flowers all died and dropped off.
Now the leaves are starting to do the same. They go dark brown at the
edges and then just wilt.

Some leaves still look healthy, but half of the tree is affected now
and I fear the worst. The only thing I have done is transplant the
tree to a larger tub a couple of months ago.

Could this be the reason? Do plums not like any disturbance? I did not
really upset the roots, because the whole rootball came out as one,
and i just dropped it in a larger container and filled around the
sides with compost.

I have looked at the diseases pages and nothing seems to fit with the
symptoms my tree is displaying. I realise that there is probably
nothing I can do but pray that it is strong enough to struggle on, but
I would like to know if I have killed it with kindness.

Have you got leaves already? *If the blossom was nipped by frost then
they would go brown. *I still don't have leaves on my fruit trees.
There are many experts here on fruit trees who will be able to give
you better advice than I but good luck with it.

Judith

Yes Judith, I have leaves on it, and we have not had a frost since the
flower buds appeared as I keep daily temperature records.

Some of the leaves appeared as normal, looked very healthy and have
since wilted, but leaves on the same stem are ok. It is very puzzling.

John

I'm sure someone here will be able to help you, there are quite a few
experts. Why not start a new thread and ask there?

Judith

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Some of the leaves appeared as normal, looked very healthy and have
since wilted, but leaves on the same stem are ok. It is very puzzling.

Sounds like you have damaged the roots and the sap isn't getting to the
branches, only to the stem.

Try keeping the soil a little moister than normally you would, to give
it a chance to recover.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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On 28 Apr, 21:35, Rusty_Hinge
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Some of the leaves appeared as normal, looked very healthy and have
since wilted, but leaves on the same stem are ok. It is very puzzling.

Sounds like you have damaged the roots and the sap isn't getting to the
branches, only to the stem.

Try keeping the soil a little moister than normally you would, to give
it a chance to recover.

--
Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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Yes I must have done, although the whole root ball seemed to come out
intact and i just dropped it in the larger container and filled around
it.

However, all is not lost because although most of the leaves have
shrivelled, a few are still looking healthy and a number of the
lateral buds have started to open much lower down the tree and so it
does look as if it may recover.

Thanks for the advice re-watering, I will pay more attention to that.