"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
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Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
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Pete C
London UK


No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your experience?
I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving parts are
metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to the
one in the url given by Pete C.
Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:


"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the
job
and won't need constant mending.

Have you tried Hozelock's metal lance with swivelling head? I've been
using one for a year without any problems - and choice of spray patterns
is useful. They also now make a metal spray gun which I have thrice run
over with the Jag with no ill effects. Can't yet vouch for the lance's
ability to repel slow moving traffic...

I did have a Hoselock and the head was last seen flying over the top of
our
greenhouse, it let go under water pressure as it was plastic and just a
push
fit onto a chrome plated pipe, stupid design. Luckily that time it didn't
destroy my plants, only next doors.

How long ago was this? (See my reply to Pete Stockdale).

About two years ago and the ones I've seen in the GCs look virtually the
same to me.

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Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:17:50 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
wrote:

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your experience?
I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving parts are
metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to the
one in the url given by Pete C.

The plastic trigger always breaks.
Keep your receipt. If it's within a year take it back and demand a
refund or replacement.

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On 2009-06-19 15:28:37 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said:


"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:


"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the
job
and won't need constant mending.

Have you tried Hozelock's metal lance with swivelling head? I've been
using one for a year without any problems - and choice of spray patterns
is useful. They also now make a metal spray gun which I have thrice run
over with the Jag with no ill effects. Can't yet vouch for the lance's
ability to repel slow moving traffic...

I did have a Hoselock and the head was last seen flying over the top of
our
greenhouse, it let go under water pressure as it was plastic and just a
push
fit onto a chrome plated pipe, stupid design. Luckily that time it didn't
destroy my plants, only next doors.

How long ago was this? (See my reply to Pete Stockdale).

About two years ago and the ones I've seen in the GCs look virtually the
same to me.

The head on mine is metal so either it has superseded the model you
describe or we are talking about two different models. Hozelock make
both a plastic and a metal lance spray - see
http://www.hozelock.com/watering/spray-guns/lances.html

On 2009-06-19 14:17:50 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK


No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your experience?
I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving parts are
metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to the
one in the url given by Pete C.

To correct myself, mine too has a trigger with a 'soft-touch' coating
(which I like for its comfort and warmth).

FWIW, I have a hose gun with a plastic trigger which has been in
constant use for almost 10 years without breaking.

In message , Bob Hobden
writes

"robert" wrote in answer to...
Bob Hobden
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit
onto
chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job, constant
leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that suddenly fly
off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed
mending/gluing
back together. Now if there was one similar but made with brass
connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


A length of 15mm copper tube cut to desired length with a simple lever arm
ball valve (15mm compression fittings) and connector to hose on the end.

So the thread on 15mm pipe fittings is the same as hose fittings.
In that case it should be easy to construct a robust metal lance as I too
have accumulated lots of pipe fittings and pipe over the years, even a pipe
bender.

The one we use for watering containers is 60cm of 15mm tube with a
straight washing machine ball valve with a threaded tap connector
http://www.twowests.co.uk/TwoWestsSi...R_HOSECONN.htm
which fits any hozelock or gardena fitting - Draper now do a brass
connector.
--
Robert

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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On 2009-06-19 14:17:50 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK


No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your
experience? I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving
parts are metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to
the one in the url given by Pete C.

To correct myself, mine too has a trigger with a 'soft-touch' coating
(which I like for its comfort and warmth).

FWIW, I have a hose gun with a plastic trigger which has been in constant
use for almost 10 years without breaking.

I accept that there are different standards of durability.
It tends to be the cheaper ones that fail first.
What make and model is your faithful old ten year old ?

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:
How long ago was this? (See my reply to Pete Stockdale).

About two years ago and the ones I've seen in the GCs look virtually the
same to me.

The head on mine is metal so either it has superseded the model you
describe or we are talking about two different models. Hozelock make both
a plastic and a metal lance spray - see
http://www.hozelock.com/watering/spray-guns/lances.html

That does look a lot better than the plastic head and bits ones I've seen.
It also has the extending pipe and head with a number of different spray
patterns which I do find very useful, I'll take a look see if I can find
one. Thanks.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

On 2009-06-20 15:05:02 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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On 2009-06-19 14:17:50 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK


No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your
experience? I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving
parts are metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to
the one in the url given by Pete C.

To correct myself, mine too has a trigger with a 'soft-touch' coating
(which I like for its comfort and warmth).

FWIW, I have a hose gun with a plastic trigger which has been in constant
use for almost 10 years without breaking.

I accept that there are different standards of durability.
It tends to be the cheaper ones that fail first.
What make and model is your faithful old ten year old ?

All my irrigation stuff is Hozelock (apart from anything else I like to
buy British). I think this is/was an "Ultra" gun but I can't see the
name on it now.

On 2009-06-21 08:58:17 +0100, Martin said:

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:45:50 +0100, Stan The Man wrote:

On 2009-06-20 15:05:02 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
On 2009-06-19 14:17:50 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK


No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your
experience? I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the moving
parts are metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.

I have one with a busted plastic trigger which seems pretty similar to
the one in the url given by Pete C.

To correct myself, mine too has a trigger with a 'soft-touch' coating
(which I like for its comfort and warmth).

FWIW, I have a hose gun with a plastic trigger which has been in constant
use for almost 10 years without breaking.

I accept that there are different standards of durability.
It tends to be the cheaper ones that fail first.
What make and model is your faithful old ten year old ?

All my irrigation stuff is Hozelock (apart from anything else I like to
buy British).

75% chance )

http://www.hozelock.com/about-us.html
"... although we are a global garden equipment manufacturer, over 75% of our
products are made in Britain. With the remainding 25% built in our overseas
factories in France, Malaysia, Taiwan and China."

Don't knock it -- there are fewer and fewer British manufacturers. We
have become a nation of userers and service providers. My local garden
centre manager told me that he buys Hozelock products because he knows
they will be delivered on time, even in a heatwave -- without having to
wait weeks for containers to arrive from the Far East.

Their Birmingham factory is impressive:
http://www.hozelock.com/uploads/pdf/...nt%20Park1.jpg

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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On 2009-06-21 08:58:17 +0100, Martin said:

Don't knock it -- there are fewer and fewer British manufacturers. We have
become a nation of userers and service providers. My local garden centre
manager told me that he buys Hozelock products because he knows they will
be delivered on time, even in a heatwave -- without having to wait weeks
for containers to arrive from the Far East.

Their Birmingham factory is impressive:
http://www.hozelock.com/uploads/pdf/...nt%20Park1.jpg


I suspect that my lance with the busted plastic trigger is "Gardena ".

I just wish I could source a replacement ball for my ballbarrow,
that Dysons tell me was manufactured for them by Hozelock.

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

In message , Pete Stockdale
writes

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
.. .
On 2009-06-21 08:58:17 +0100, Martin said:

Don't knock it -- there are fewer and fewer British manufacturers. We have
become a nation of userers and service providers. My local garden centre
manager told me that he buys Hozelock products because he knows they will
be delivered on time, even in a heatwave -- without having to wait weeks
for containers to arrive from the Far East.

Their Birmingham factory is impressive:
http://www.hozelock.com/uploads/pdf/...nt%20Park1.jpg


I suspect that my lance with the busted plastic trigger is "Gardena ".

I just wish I could source a replacement ball for my ballbarrow,
that Dysons tell me was manufactured for them by Hozelock.

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com




I remember those and am surprised they don't do them any more.
Mothercare even made a tiny one for kids in the 1970's. Couldn't you
improvise with something? eg couldn't you fill an old football with
some sort of light but solid stuff and use that instead? A metal bar or
something like that could pass through the middle, after you have had
some kind person put threads on each end for fixing. Or is it possible
to obtain a large ball similar to those used in ball-cocks in toilet
cisterns only bigger? Alternatively, you could always contact James
Dyson himself. I am sure he will be delighted that someone still uses
one of his barrows and may just suggest something.

PS My local garden centre sells Gardenia. I shall have a look at their
lances when I go tomorrow lunch-time.
--
June Hughes

"Pete Stockdale" wrote ...
"Stan The Man" wrote in message
Martin said:

Don't knock it -- there are fewer and fewer British manufacturers. We
have become a nation of userers and service providers. My local garden
centre manager told me that he buys Hozelock products because he knows
they will be delivered on time, even in a heatwave -- without having to
wait weeks for containers to arrive from the Far East.

Their Birmingham factory is impressive:
http://www.hozelock.com/uploads/pdf/...nt%20Park1.jpg


I suspect that my lance with the busted plastic trigger is "Gardena ".

I just wish I could source a replacement ball for my ballbarrow,
that Dysons tell me was manufactured for them by Hozelock.

Hozelock products are grey and yellow, Gardena are grey and red.

Ball wheel, I've seen one of those quite recently...I'll try to remember
where and keep my eyes open.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

Ball wheel, I've seen one of those quite recently...I'll try to remember
where and keep my eyes open.

Many Thanks
Nearest I have come across is the dyson ball vacuums.

Regards
Pete

In message , June Hughes
writes

PS My local garden centre sells Gardenia. I shall have a look at
their lances when I go tomorrow lunch-time.

Went to garden centre and as promised, looked at lances. The Gardenia
lances were being sold off for a fiver each and I was quite interested,
as they had a little pot for holding fertiliser, which would save a lot
of work with a watering can. However, when I asked the lad in shop, he
said they were being sold off because they no longer do the little round
blocks of fertilizer for going inside the pot, so they were no good.

They also had lances for watering hanging baskets, which were also
reduced to 12.99 GBP. That is all they had, so I haven't been much
help, I'm afraid.
--
June Hughes