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26-06-2009, 09:10 PM
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I was visiting a garden on Wednesday, and photographed a few plants that
I did not recognise. In several cases I don't know whether they're cultivated or wild, but they're sufficiently obscure to make the former plausible. Any ideas? 1) a meadow rue (Thalictum) - I'd like a second opinion on the species, as I've been relying on labels in the past. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596304/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596032/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596482/ 2) looks like an avens (Geum) to me, but I don't recognise the species. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573908/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573516/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573656/ 3) no idea, other than that it's a dicot. Ignore the little white flowers - they belong to bitter cresses. The pearlwort in the bottom left gives some scale. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573424/ 4) looks like a giant white-flowered buttercup (Ranunculus platanifolius would be my best guess, but it's out of my knowledge of the genus). I couldn't get close because it was 5 feet behind a fence which was blocking off an area for safety reasons. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3662770353/ There were also several other unusual, and possibly wild plants, present - New Zealand willow herb (Epilobium brunnescens), pirri-pirri burr (Acaena nova-zealandiae) and hairy St. John's wort (Hypericum hirsutum). I'm still thinking about the speedwells that I saw. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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26-06-2009, 09:20 PM
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In message , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes I was visiting a garden on Wednesday, and photographed a few plants that I did not recognise. In several cases I don't know whether they're cultivated or wild, but they're sufficiently obscure to make the former plausible. Any ideas? 1) a meadow rue (Thalictum) - I'd like a second opinion on the species, as I've been relying on labels in the past. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596304/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596032/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663596482/ 2) looks like an avens (Geum) to me, but I don't recognise the species. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573908/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573516/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573656/ 3) no idea, other than that it's a dicot. Ignore the little white flowers - they belong to bitter cresses. The pearlwort in the bottom left gives some scale. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663573424/ 4) looks like a giant white-flowered buttercup (Ranunculus platanifolius would be my best guess, but it's out of my knowledge of the genus). I couldn't get close because it was 5 feet behind a fence which was blocking off an area for safety reasons. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3662770353/ There were also several other unusual, and possibly wild plants, present - New Zealand willow herb (Epilobium brunnescens), pirri-pirri burr (Acaena nova-zealandiae) and hairy St. John's wort (Hypericum hirsutum). I'm still thinking about the speedwells that I saw. Oops! Forgot one 5) Silene. In an earlier year there were plants labelled as Silene gallica, with white eyes, and also white petal edges. Are these also Silene gallica, or are they a different species. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3662769899/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27317581@N06/3663572928/ -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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27-06-2009, 12:06 AM
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27-06-2009, 10:03 AM
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beccabunga writes
2) looks like an avens (Geum) to me, but I don't recognise the species. http://tinyurl.com/oopu2d http://tinyurl.com/pumopo http://tinyurl.com/ol86z9 Geum rivale [Water avens] - probably alba You may be right, but it looks very compact for G rivale. Something not quite right. I was beginning to wonder whether it was indeed a Geum at all - but I need more time to think. -- Kay |
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27-06-2009, 01:56 PM
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In message , beccabunga
writes Stewart Robert Hinsley;853248 Wrote: I was visiting a garden on Wednesday, and photographed a few plants that I did not recognise. In several cases I don't know whether they're cultivated or wild, but they're sufficiently obscure to make the former plausible. Any ideas? 1) a meadow rue (Thalictum) - I'd like a second opinion on the species, as I've been relying on labels in the past. http://tinyurl.com/onto6c http://tinyurl.com/pb7re2 http://tinyurl.com/p45dcr Without a better shot of the leaves, could be Thalictrum aquilegifolium, whis flowers in June. That was what I thought as well. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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27-06-2009, 02:51 PM
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K writes
beccabunga writes 2) looks like an avens (Geum) to me, but I don't recognise the species. http://tinyurl.com/oopu2d http://tinyurl.com/pumopo http://tinyurl.com/ol86z9 Geum rivale [Water avens] - probably alba You may be right, but it looks very compact for G rivale. Something not quite right. I was beginning to wonder whether it was indeed a Geum at all - but I need more time to think. It's growing with wood sorrel and harts tongue, which I'd associate with a shady habitat but drier than for Geum rivale. Geum rivale has pinnate-ish leaves, ie another two lobes below the three big ones, this plant has only three lobes. It also gives the impression of being low and creeping, and the leaves are shinier than Geum. Flowers aren't right for Rubus saxatilis, but I wondered if it might be something in that area. The tiny creeping plant I can't identify - the focus is not good enough when you enlarge the pick. Overall it looks like something primula-ish (eg Anagallis), though a bit on the small side. -- Kay |
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27-06-2009, 05:28 PM
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In message , K
writes beccabunga writes 2) looks like an avens (Geum) to me, but I don't recognise the species. http://tinyurl.com/oopu2d http://tinyurl.com/pumopo http://tinyurl.com/ol86z9 Geum rivale [Water avens] - probably alba You may be right, but it looks very compact for G rivale. Something not quite right. I was beginning to wonder whether it was indeed a Geum at all - but I need more time to think. I wasn't aware of the existence of white forms of Geum rivale. I don't see Geum rivale very often - there's a colony about 6 miles away, but I overlooked it when passing on the way to the garden (perhaps it was past flowering) - but I do have the impression that it is a less compact plant than the one photographed. There is a white avens (Geum canadense) and Geum pentapetalum is also white-flowered, but neither looks like a match. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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27-06-2009, 05:49 PM
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Stewart Robert Hinsley writes
I don't see Geum rivale very often - there's a colony about 6 miles away, but I overlooked it when passing on the way to the garden (perhaps it was past flowering) - but I do have the impression that it is a less compact plant than the one photographed. It has upright flower stems in the same way as Geum urbanum, though a bit floppier. I have a lot of it in my garden, and it's about knee height, a bigger plant than Geum urbanum, but otherwise similar in form apart from the drooping flowers. -- Kay |
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29-06-2009, 10:11 AM
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In message , K
writes Stewart Robert Hinsley writes I don't see Geum rivale very often - there's a colony about 6 miles away, but I overlooked it when passing on the way to the garden (perhaps it was past flowering) - but I do have the impression that it is a less compact plant than the one photographed. It has upright flower stems in the same way as Geum urbanum, though a bit floppier. I have a lot of it in my garden, and it's about knee height, a bigger plant than Geum urbanum, but otherwise similar in form apart from the drooping flowers. You've convinced me that it's not Geum rivale, but that leaves me still baffled as to what it is. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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