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Shrub ID help please
Hello all ,
I'm hoping somebody can identify an evergreen shrub that I have in my garden so I can find out how much/when to prune it . It's really got way too big at around 10ft tall and unsightly brown patches have started to appear on it , the foliage has a slightly lemony smell when rubbed between your fingers. It's said a picture is worth a thousand words so here are three pictures including a close up of the foliage . T.I.A. Ron http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...o30/shrub1.jpg http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...o30/shrub2.jpg http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...o30/shrub3.jpg |
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Shrub ID help please
"Rondeco" wrote in message ... Hello all , I'm hoping somebody can identify an evergreen shrub that I have in my garden so I can find out how much/when to prune it . It's really got way too big at around 10ft tall and unsightly brown patches have started to appear on it , the foliage has a slightly lemony smell when rubbed between your fingers. It's said a picture is worth a thousand words so here are three pictures including a close up of the foliage . T.I.A. Ron [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub1.jpg] [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub2.jpg] [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub3.jpg] Foliage looks like Cedar to me. The brown patches are ominous - it could be just a natural dying-off of one branch or two but it could be what killed off my cypress hedge last year namely the dreaded Phytophthora, which was discussed on a thread "Oh Dear :-(" in this very NG only a couple of days ago R. |
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Shrub ID help please
"Ragnar" wrote in message ... Foliage looks like Cedar to me. The brown patches are ominous - it could be just a natural dying-off of one branch or two but it could be what killed off my cypress hedge last year namely the dreaded Phytophthora, which was discussed on a thread "Oh Dear :-(" in this very NG only a couple of days ago R. I called the wrong thread - it should have been "Tree experts - Rowen Tree" |
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It is definitely not a cedar sensu strictu, ie Cedrus. But a lot of people use the the term cedar colloquially to refer to members of the cypress family Cupressaceae in general. And a lot of the Cupressaceae have common names with the word "cedar" in, such as Japanese Cedar and Incense Cedar. It must surely be a member of the Cupressaceae, and I'm suspecting it is some kind of Juniper, of which there are many species and many garden forms.
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Actually the more I think about it the more I think it is likely to be Cryptomeria japonica ("Japanese cedar"), which has so many cultivated forms you'd hardly recognise them as all being the same species.
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It can certainly be agressively trimmed, but you mustn't go too far. It's a bit like pine, spruce, cypress, etc in that if you prune back too far it won't regrow.
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And it is best pruned in the growing season.
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Shrub ID help please
"echinosum" wrote in message ... Rondeco;855803 Wrote: Thanks for your response . I've searched Google images and can't see a Cedar tree that looks anything like it , if it helps ... the foliage is very soft , not stiff like pine needles and I've never seen any kind of cone or fruit on it . Ron It is definitely not a cedar sensu strictu, ie Cedrus. But a lot of people use the the term cedar colloquially to refer to members of the cypress family Cupressaceae in general. And a lot of the Cupressaceae have common names with the word "cedar" in, such as Japanese Cedar and Incense Cedar. It must surely be a member of the Cupressaceae, and I'm suspecting it is some kind of Juniper, of which there are many species and many garden forms. Know what I think it might be? Cryptomeria japonica - but as I am not familiar with the species I can not be sure. Foliage of certain varieties can be quite soft according to web sites I've looked at, and the reddish bark seems to confirm it. If that's what it is then it's quite unusual in a small garden as it more normally associated with large parks. It would be a tragedy to lose it so I hope it is all right. R. |
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Shrub ID help please
In message , Ragnar
writes "echinosum" wrote in message ... Rondeco;855803 Wrote: Thanks for your response . I've searched Google images and can't see a Cedar tree that looks anything like it , if it helps ... the foliage is very soft , not stiff like pine needles and I've never seen any kind of cone or fruit on it . I'd guess that the lack of cones/fruit is a consequence of pruning. There are pinaceous plants with soft foliage (hemlocks - Tsuga - at least). Ron It is definitely not a cedar sensu strictu, ie Cedrus. But a lot of people use the the term cedar colloquially to refer to members of the cypress family Cupressaceae in general. And a lot of the Cupressaceae have common names with the word "cedar" in, such as Japanese Cedar and Incense Cedar. It must surely be a member of the Cupressaceae, and I'm suspecting it is some kind of Juniper, of which there are many species and many garden forms. One species that has lemon-scented foliage is Monterey Cypress, but the foliage doesn't seem right for that. Know what I think it might be? Cryptomeria japonica - but as I am not familiar with the species I can not be sure. Foliage of certain varieties can be quite soft according to web sites I've looked at, and the reddish bark seems to confirm it. If that's what it is then it's quite unusual in a small garden as it more normally associated with large parks. It would be a tragedy to lose it so I hope it is all right. R. Perhaps a larger photograph of the foliage would help. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Shrub ID help please
On 2009-07-13 16:20:30 +0100, "Ragnar" said:
"echinosum" wrote in message ... Rondeco;855803 Wrote: Thanks for your response . I've searched Google images and can't see a Cedar tree that looks anything like it , if it helps ... the foliage is very soft , not stiff like pine needles and I've never seen any kind of cone or fruit on it . snip Know what I think it might be? Cryptomeria japonica - but as I am not familiar with the species I can not be sure. Foliage of certain varieties can be quite soft according to web sites I've looked at, and the reddish bark seems to confirm it. If that's what it is then it's quite unusual in a small garden as it more normally associated with large parks. It would be a tragedy to lose it so I hope it is all right. R. We have Cryptomeria in the churchyard bordering our garden. At the end of the year it's normal for it to become rusty coloured. I'll look more closely tomorrow and check the scent but you may have got it. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Shrub ID help please
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:30:47 +0100, Rondeco
wrote: Hello all , I'm hoping somebody can identify an evergreen shrub that I have in my garden so I can find out how much/when to prune it . It's really got way too big at around 10ft tall and unsightly brown patches have started to appear on it , the foliage has a slightly lemony smell when rubbed between your fingers. It's said a picture is worth a thousand words so here are three pictures including a close up of the foliage . T.I.A. Ron [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub1.jpg] [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub2.jpg] [image: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...30/shrub3.jpg] My guess, as another urgler suggested is crytomeria japonica, but it's a long time since I saw one close up. It has been pruned and shaped so no natural habit to go by. Pam in Bristol |
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As you can see from the bare lower trunk, if you cut back too far, it doesn't come back. |
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I'd like to reduce the volume of the foliage part by around 50% in height and width , do you think this will be ok or too drastic ... maybe do it in two or three goes ? . Ron |
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