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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:58:05 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good Friday.
I was
taught this at junior school.

Better still

and that a cloud always passes in front of the sun ...
--

That'll always be true for somewhere.

mark

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.

Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

Emery Davis wrote in
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Planting with
the phases of the moon is another issue, any mushroom hunter can tell
you that fungal -- and so presumably mycorrhizael -- growth is moon
related.

I haven't come across any such people, and I've been
gathering fungi for over 30 years.

Can you point to some decent[*] literature on this subject,
please.
[*] preferably peer reviewed; anecdotes will be ignored

Never underestimate the power of placebos, the Hawthorne
Effect, and cold reading techniques

On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.

Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.

He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the
moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes
should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)
and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.
Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.

Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the sound
of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to his plants
- I talk to mine).

PS Didn't the cricket umpire, Sheppard (sp?) stand on one leg every time
a cricket score reached 111?
--
June Hughes

On 2009-07-29 11:43:40 +0100, June Hughes
said:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)
and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.
Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.

Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the sound
of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to his
plants - I talk to mine).

Didn't the pundits tell us it was something to do with carbon dioxide?
I certainly talk to mine and when I had bees, I always told them if
something momentous happened in the family.

PS Didn't the cricket umpire, Sheppard (sp?) stand on one leg every
time a cricket score reached 111?

!!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

June Hughes writes
Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the sound
of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to his
plants - I talk to mine).

I think the talking thing works simply because you pay a bit more
attention to your plants and spot problems a bit earlier.

--
Kay

In message , K
writes
June Hughes writes
Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the
sound of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to
his plants - I talk to mine).

I think the talking thing works simply because you pay a bit more
attention to your plants and spot problems a bit earlier.

Probably.
--
June Hughes

On 2009-07-29 12:11:04 +0100, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:01:40 +0100, K wrote:

June Hughes writes
Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the sound
of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to his
plants - I talk to mine).

I think the talking thing works simply because you pay a bit more
attention to your plants and spot problems a bit earlier.

In Prince Charles case it could be because he pays an enormous staff to do his
gardening and has the bill paid by the state.

Martin, come now, that's nonsense. Like all Princes of Wales, his
income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall and he isn't on the Civil List,
so gets nothing from the State, other than the expenses he incurs at
the behest of the government of the day. He has several gardeners and
does as much as he can himself when he can, because he enjoys it.
People go to see the garden and pay for the prvilege and all the money
goes to one of his charities, not to the upkeep of the garden.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On 2009-07-29 12:09:13 +0100, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:30:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.

Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.

He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.

"seems"

Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it.

I don't understand what you mean by respects the land.

Wants to work with it rather than beating it into submission.

After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.

People did predict it back in the 1960s.

But how many paid attention? I know that in Jersey so many nitrates
were put onto the fields by the previous generation of farmers, that
the nitrates in the water level were a long way above the level
considered to be safe. Nonetheless, I can't see any harm in someone
wanting to try a method that does nothing to anyone or anything other
than themselves and their own land.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

In message , mark
writes

"Martin" wrote

and that a cloud always passes in front of the sun ...

That'll always be true for somewhere.

mark

A similar remark that "The sun is always shining somewhere" started a
long and stupid argument between several of my mates many years ago when
we were in our late teens. ;-)
--
Gordon H
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In message , K
writes
June Hughes writes
Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the
sound of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to
his plants - I talk to mine).

I think the talking thing works simply because you pay a bit more
attention to your plants and spot problems a bit earlier.

I don't talk to mine, I listen to them.
Otherwise you get the old nag, nag, nag of "You never listen to anything
I say".
Sound familiar?
--
Gordon H
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In message , Gordon H
writes
In message , K
writes
June Hughes writes
Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the
sound of the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to
his plants - I talk to mine).

I think the talking thing works simply because you pay a bit more
attention to your plants and spot problems a bit earlier.

I don't talk to mine, I listen to them.
Otherwise you get the old nag, nag, nag of "You never listen to
anything I say".
Sound familiar?
G
--
June Hughes

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:11:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

In Prince Charles case it could be because he pays an enormous staff to do his
gardening and has the bill paid by the state.

Martin, come now, that's nonsense. Like all Princes of Wales, his
income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall and he isn't on the Civil List,
so gets nothing from the State, other than the expenses he incurs at
the behest of the government of the day.

I think you'll find that your statement is not entirely correct.

Almost £2million of grant aid went on a Clarence House refit, paid by
the taxpayer in 2002.

He is estimated to have received £3 million from the taxpayer in 2002
and I don't suppose he's milking the system for much less these days.

Please see :-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...0m-542293.html


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On 2009-07-29 15:26:05 +0100, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:11:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

In Prince Charles case it could be because he pays an enormous staff to do his
gardening and has the bill paid by the state.

Martin, come now, that's nonsense. Like all Princes of Wales, his
income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall and he isn't on the Civil List,
so gets nothing from the State, other than the expenses he incurs at
the behest of the government of the day.

I think you'll find that your statement is not entirely correct.

Almost £2million of grant aid went on a Clarence House refit, paid by
the taxpayer in 2002.

He is estimated to have received £3 million from the taxpayer in 2002
and I don't suppose he's milking the system for much less these days.

Please see :-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...0m-542293.html

I

think your choice of words indicates your preferences. I can't take
seriously a newspaper article like that seriously especially one which
was written in 2003 when Clarence House was being worked on and which
has such a biased agenda. Clarence House doesn't belong to the
prince and it hadn't been 'renovated' since the Queen Mother moved
there in the 1950s. I suppose you could say that our heir to the
throne should do his official entertaining in a house that hasn't been
updated for over 50 years but for myself, I don't think it's very good
for Britain's image!
The point was and remains that he spends his own income on Highgrove
which IS his house and that the maintenace of royal official buildings
is not his personal responsibility any more than Buckingham Palace is
the Queen's. Nobody would expect a managing director or CEO to pay out
of their own pocket for either travel expenses or official habitation
expenses.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon