"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon,
I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should
only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)
and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.
Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The Ancient
Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is just that
but it's been around for centries and seems to work. Certainly, as it
appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in someone enquiring
about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were all the thing as
can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one time. People are
re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I doubt many people would
have predicted that back in the 60s.

Perhaps the singing is something to do with the plants liking the sound of
the gardener's voice (a bit like Prince Charles talking to his plants - I
talk to mine).




If you talk to your plants you would be breathing out carbon dioxide,
inexchange for which they will put up with your 'witty banter' or l.o.b.


mark

In message , Judith M Smith
writes
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

When I were a lad it was always said that potatoes should be planted B4
Good Friday. This was nothing to do with growth - just to show that you
weren't a lazy sod.
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

In message , Martin
writes
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:19:53 +0100, "mark"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:58:05 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good Friday.
I was
taught this at junior school.

Better still

and that a cloud always passes in front of the sun ...
--

That'll always be true for somewhere.

It was never true while I was at the junior school. Often it rained the whole
long weekend because that is traditional at Easter. )
So it was true, just a question of interpretation
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-29 12:09:13 +0100, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:30:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the
moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes
should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)
and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on

Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.
Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
He also got some very reasonable answers.
Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
"seems"

Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it.
I don't understand what you mean by respects the land.

Wants to work with it rather than beating it into submission.

After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.
People did predict it back in the 1960s.

But how many paid attention? I know that in Jersey so many nitrates
were put onto the fields by the previous generation of farmers, that
the nitrates in the water level were a long way above the level
considered to be safe. Nonetheless, I can't see any harm in someone
wanting to try a method that does nothing to anyone or anything other
than themselves and their own land.

Also in east Anglia IIRC and pregnant women were given bottled water.
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

On 2009-07-29 20:39:02 +0100, hugh ] said:

In message , Sacha
writes
snip

But how many paid attention? I know that in Jersey so many nitrates
were put onto the fields by the previous generation of farmers, that
the nitrates in the water level were a long way above the level
considered to be safe. Nonetheless, I can't see any harm in someone
wanting to try a method that does nothing to anyone or anything other
than themselves and their own land.

Also in east Anglia IIRC and pregnant women were given bottled water.

My first child is now 33 and when that child was born the nitrate thing
was becoming known. Consequently, all his milk formula bottles were
made with bottled water in a separate kettle to the one we used for
ourselves.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:30:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good
Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.

Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.

He also got some very reasonable answers.

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.


I can assure you that the post re planting of potatoes on Good Friday
was deadly serious. It was (and is) the done thing.

--

Vote NO to the proposed group uk.rec.cycling.moderated aka uk.rec.cycling.censored

On 2009-07-30 00:42:29 +0100, Judith M Smith said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:30:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:
snip

Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it. After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.


I can assure you that the post re planting of potatoes on Good Friday
was deadly serious. It was (and is) the done thing.


I'm not scoffing though I thought that was the lore for parsley, not
potatoes. Growers in Jersey plant a lot earlier than Easter so much
depends on the climate. I would think that long-establlished farming
families have figured out the best thing to do for their soil and their
climate and there's no harm I can see in gardeners experimenting on
their own patch of the planet.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

In message , Martin
writes
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:39:02 +0100, hugh ] wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-07-29 12:09:13 +0100, Martin said:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:30:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-07-29 09:33:55 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:36:57 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2009-07-28 17:58:05 +0100, Martin said:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the
moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.
It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes
should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)
and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on

Friday. I was
taught this at junior school.
Be fair - the man asked a reasonable question.
He also got some very reasonable answers.
Not if they're along the lines of standing on one leg reciting The
Ancient Mariner while planting parsley! A lot of old gardening lore is
just that but it's been around for centries and seems to work.
"seems"

Certainly, as it appears to respect the land I can't see any harm in
someone enquiring about it and/or trying it.
I don't understand what you mean by respects the land.

Wants to work with it rather than beating it into submission.

After all, nitrates were
all the thing as can't-go-wrong, prouce-huge-crops fertilisers at one
time. People are re-thinking their attitudes to chemicals now and I
doubt many people would have predicted that back in the 60s.
People did predict it back in the 1960s.

But how many paid attention? I know that in Jersey so many nitrates
were put onto the fields by the previous generation of farmers, that
the nitrates in the water level were a long way above the level
considered to be safe. Nonetheless, I can't see any harm in someone
wanting to try a method that does nothing to anyone or anything other
than themselves and their own land.

Also in east Anglia IIRC and pregnant women were given bottled water.

They drink bottled water like everybody else in many places in Europe.
Yes but normally they go to a supemarket and buy it, rather than in this
instance having it delivered by their water supply company F-O-C
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

In message , Martin
writes
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:31:11 +0100, hugh ] wrote:

In message , Martin
writes
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:19:53 +0100, "mark"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:58:05 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0100, Judith M Smith

wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:51 +0100, "Hamer Family"
wrote:

Does anybody here garden by biodynamics or the phases of the moon, I'm
thinking of giving it a try.


It's along the same lines - I can assure you that potatoes should only
be planted on Good Friday ;-)

and that the sun always passes in front of the sun at 3 pm on Good Friday.
I was
taught this at junior school.

Better still

and that a cloud always passes in front of the sun ...
--

That'll always be true for somewhere.

It was never true while I was at the junior school. Often it rained the whole
long weekend because that is traditional at Easter. )
So it was true, just a question of interpretation

or the meaning of passing over.
I don't think clouds are ever stationary so even when it is raining and
the skies are grey some of them are still passing over the sun.
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

On 2009-07-30 11:47:27 +0100, Martin said:

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:32:51 +0100, hugh ] wrote:

In message , Martin
snip

They drink bottled water like everybody else in many places in Europe.
Yes but normally they go to a supemarket and buy it, rather than in this
instance having it delivered by their water supply company F-O-C

In UK the water companies can afford it.

Yes but who's paying for it?!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon