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Tree stump killer
I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break
the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. Apart from the old drill-holes-in-stump and pour in diesel/old-sump-oil trick (don't have any mouldy sump oil to hand anyway) what would be a good product to use? Are any of these any good? http://www.selections.com/GF1911/dee...-stump-killer/ http://www.garden4less.co.uk/bayer-g...ump-killer.asp http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Weedkil.../Roundup-Tree- Stump+Root-Killer-250ml/invt/0263127 Some of those seem to be glyphospate based, which I *thought* acted on foliage. I need something that can be applied to the cut trunk end that will travel through the tree's system. Ta Tim -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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Tree stump killer
"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. SBK comes to mind for what you want. |
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Tree stump killer
davej
wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 15:16 SBK Found it - cool, thanks. -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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Tree stump killer
Tim Watts wrote:
I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. Apart from the old drill-holes-in-stump and pour in diesel/old-sump-oil trick (don't have any mouldy sump oil to hand anyway) what would be a good product to use? Sulphuric acid. (Battery acid.) -- Rusty |
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Rusty Hinge
wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 17:44 Tim Watts wrote: I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. Apart from the old drill-holes-in-stump and pour in diesel/old-sump-oil trick (don't have any mouldy sump oil to hand anyway) what would be a good product to use? Sulphuric acid. (Battery acid.) I've got 20% HCl - would that be any good? -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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Tree stump killer
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
... The first one. Either that or anything containing ammonium sulphamate (not to be confused with ammonium sulphate!). Drill two or three decent sized deep holes into the top of the stump, pour in crystals of stump killer, cover with a tile or whatever to keep the rain out. -- Chris Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea. Mild, but very exposed to salt gales E-mail: christopher[dot]hog[at]virgin[dot]net Ammonium sulphamate was withdrawn from sale over 2 years ago and is not approved for use in the EU. -- Jeff |
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Tree stump killer
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... The first one. Either that or anything containing ammonium sulphamate (not to be confused with ammonium sulphate!). Drill two or three decent sized deep holes into the top of the stump, pour in crystals of stump killer, cover with a tile or whatever to keep the rain out. Ammonium sulphamate was withdrawn from sale over 2 years ago and is not approved for use in the EU. Do you have any idea why? I checked an it is apparently due to the insane requirement that the halfwitted Irish Rapporteur that insisted on additional gratuitous animal testing on dogs. This is nothing to do with safety when used by amateurs. It is entirely to do with insane EEC red tape on chemicals. http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/garden.asp?id=1997 Even the Henry Doublespeak organisation considers Ammonium Sulphamate as a borderline acceptable weedkiller although not strictly Organic(TM). This is an example of the H&SE at its dumbest. You can bet your bottom dollar it is still widely available to amateurs elsewhere in Europe despite a notional EU wide ban. Only the UK blindly enforces this junk. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Tree stump killer
Tim Watts wrote:
davej wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 15:16 SBK Found it - cool, thanks. And as strange as it sounds adding a small amount of copper sulphate to it after a month or so will speed up the decay of the wood - assuming that is what you want to happen. I levered mine out after it had been weakened sufficiently but close to drains that isn't a good idea. A trace of copper salt inhibits the natural fungicides in the wood. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Tree stump killer
Martin Brown
wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 20:07 Jeff Layman wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... The first one. Either that or anything containing ammonium sulphamate (not to be confused with ammonium sulphate!). Drill two or three decent sized deep holes into the top of the stump, pour in crystals of stump killer, cover with a tile or whatever to keep the rain out. Ammonium sulphamate was withdrawn from sale over 2 years ago and is not approved for use in the EU. Do you have any idea why? I checked an it is apparently due to the insane requirement that the halfwitted Irish Rapporteur that insisted on additional gratuitous animal testing on dogs. This is nothing to do with safety when used by amateurs. It is entirely to do with insane EEC red tape on chemicals. http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/garden.asp?id=1997 Even the Henry Doublespeak organisation considers Ammonium Sulphamate as a borderline acceptable weedkiller although not strictly Organic(TM). This is an example of the H&SE at its dumbest. You can bet your bottom dollar it is still widely available to amateurs elsewhere in Europe despite a notional EU wide ban. Only the UK blindly enforces this junk. Regards, Martin Brown You can still buy it as a compost accelerator. -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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Martin Brown
wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 22:23 Tim Watts wrote: davej wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 15:16 SBK Found it - cool, thanks. And as strange as it sounds adding a small amount of copper sulphate to it after a month or so will speed up the decay of the wood - assuming that is what you want to happen. I levered mine out after it had been weakened sufficiently but close to drains that isn't a good idea. A trace of copper salt inhibits the natural fungicides in the wood. Regards, Martin Brown Thanks for that! -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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In message , Tim Watts
writes I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. Apart from the old drill-holes-in-stump and pour in diesel/old-sump-oil trick (don't have any mouldy sump oil to hand anyway) what would be a good product to use? Are any of these any good? http://www.selections.com/GF1911/dee...-stump-killer/ http://www.garden4less.co.uk/bayer-g...ump-killer.asp http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Weedkil.../Roundup-Tree- Stump+Root-Killer-250ml/invt/0263127 Some of those seem to be glyphospate based, which I *thought* acted on foliage. I need something that can be applied to the cut trunk end that will travel through the tree's system. Glyphosphate is normally applied to foliage, but apparently it can be used to kill stumps and tree - hence them selling a version for that purpose. Which seems to be just strongish glyphosphate applied neat -- Chris French |
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Tree stump killer
Tim Watts wrote:
Rusty Hinge wibbled on Tuesday 06 April 2010 17:44 Tim Watts wrote: I have a 6" stump left from a tree I just chopped down (threatening to break the drain chamber in my garden that's all of a foot away from the trunk). No idea what the tree was, but I need to ensure its complete and permanent demise. Apart from the old drill-holes-in-stump and pour in diesel/old-sump-oil trick (don't have any mouldy sump oil to hand anyway) what would be a good product to use? Sulphuric acid. (Battery acid.) I've got 20% HCl - would that be any good? Not as far as I know. Sulphuric acid naturally absorbs any moisture it an find, and such that it does, evaporates to some extent. It also removes (chemically) the elements of water from many organic substances, so hydrogen and oxygen are taken from the wood's cellulose and dilute the acid. The cycle continues until all the acid is neutralised by contact with bases and some mildly alkaline salts (in the surrounsing soil and potassium carbonate amongst other salts in the wood.) The wood is first rendered into a friable condition much like naturally rotten wood, and if there's still enough acid left, the roots are reduced mainly to carbon. This does not happen with HCl. -- Rusty |
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Jeff Layman wrote:
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... The first one. Either that or anything containing ammonium sulphamate (not to be confused with ammonium sulphate!). Drill two or three decent sized deep holes into the top of the stump, pour in crystals of stump killer, cover with a tile or whatever to keep the rain out. -- Chris Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea. Mild, but very exposed to salt gales E-mail: christopher[dot]hog[at]virgin[dot]net Ammonium sulphamate was withdrawn from sale over 2 years ago and is not approved for use in the EU. Must get some and use it! Applies for Nigel Farage Medal -- Rusty |
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Martin Brown wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... The first one. Either that or anything containing ammonium sulphamate (not to be confused with ammonium sulphate!). Drill two or three decent sized deep holes into the top of the stump, pour in crystals of stump killer, cover with a tile or whatever to keep the rain out. Ammonium sulphamate was withdrawn from sale over 2 years ago and is not approved for use in the EU. Do you have any idea why? I checked an it is apparently due to the insane requirement that the halfwitted Irish Rapporteur that insisted on additional gratuitous animal testing on dogs. This is nothing to do with safety when used by amateurs. It is entirely to do with insane EEC red tape on chemicals. http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/garden.asp?id=1997 Even the Henry Doublespeak organisation considers Ammonium Sulphamate as a borderline acceptable weedkiller although not strictly Organic(TM). This is an example of the H&SE at its dumbest. You can bet your bottom dollar it is still widely available to amateurs elsewhere in Europe despite a notional EU wide ban. Only the UK blindly enforces this junk. Quite agree with those sentiments. If you want a relatively harmles chemical banned for garden use, you can usually get it from a chemical distributor, who won't ask you what you want it for, unless it's something which you could blow-up politicians with. Mind you, you'd have to buy several years' supply... -- Rusty |
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