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I came across this growing in a crack in a pavement. I assume it's an
escape from some garden, but I don't recognise it. http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot24.jpg http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot25.jpg Looks as it might be something in the old Scrophulariaceae, perhaps in the region of Linaria or Antirrhinum. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... I came across this growing in a crack in a pavement. I assume it's an escape from some garden, but I don't recognise it. http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot24.jpg http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot25.jpg Looks as it might be something in the old Scrophulariaceae, perhaps in the region of Linaria or Antirrhinum. -- Looks too fleshy for those, more like a flowering sedum or Echeveria. Does it have white sap? Then, maybe, an Asclepia. someone |
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writes "Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... I came across this growing in a crack in a pavement. I assume it's an escape from some garden, but I don't recognise it. http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot24.jpg http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Dicot25.jpg Looks as it might be something in the old Scrophulariaceae, perhaps in the region of Linaria or Antirrhinum. -- Looks too fleshy for those, more like a flowering sedum or Echeveria. Does it have white sap? Then, maybe, an Asclepia. I agree that it looks too fleshy for the usual run of Linaria and Antirrhinum (Linaria alpina looked the closest match, but even that's not fleshy enough, and the flower colour is different), but the flowers are wrong for Sedum, Echeveria and Ascelepias, all of which have actinomorphic flowers. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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plant ID request
It is a Linaria and probably one of the supina group although that
leads us into on of the largest aggregations within Linaria, which is not too helpful. Judging by the apparently thickened, obtuse- mucronate leaves, I suspect it's origins are Mediterranean and a plant of the maquis or similar habitats. Given a warmer, drier climate on poorer soil, the leaves would not normally be as broad. The flower colour is wrong for supina, so I'm tempted to think along the lines of L. depauperata, which has several subspecies, or at least a primary hybrid with depauperata as a parent. That's about as far as I can go. I grew L. supina and depauperata many years ago during a brief phase when I was slightly 'into' alpines and rockery plants. Seedlings from them did exhibit varying degrees of veining, as well as colours from yellow to white in supina and off-white to purplish in depauperata. |
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, Dave Poole writes It is a Linaria and probably one of the supina group although that leads us into on of the largest aggregations within Linaria, which is not too helpful. Judging by the apparently thickened, obtuse- mucronate leaves, I suspect it's origins are Mediterranean and a plant of the maquis or similar habitats. Given a warmer, drier climate on poorer soil, the leaves would not normally be as broad. The flower colour is wrong for supina, so I'm tempted to think along the lines of L. depauperata, which has several subspecies, or at least a primary hybrid with depauperata as a parent. That's about as far as I can go. I grew L. supina and depauperata many years ago during a brief phase when I was slightly 'into' alpines and rockery plants. Seedlings from them did exhibit varying degrees of veining, as well as colours from yellow to white in supina and off-white to purplish in depauperata. I was speculating on those lines, and had gone so far as to download the Linaria treatment from Flora Iberica. The figures therein show narrow leaves with acute apices, but reading the text Linaria supina does sometimes show obtuse apices. The leaf habit does look a bit more like depauperata than supina. Stace does mention a hybrid (Linaria x cornubiensis) between Linaria supina and Linaria repens, but that's stunningly rare (and probably has a more lax stem structure). Thanks. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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