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My daughter has been talking to our local press and I think they are going
to see us about a story with a rep from the RSPCA.
Can you imagine how that is going to go.
Tomorrow the local press
Sunday the RSPCA
Never the twain.


If a story in the local media is interesting enough, the nationals
will probably pick it up.

Don't forget your local (BBC) radio station.


Don't forget to tell them how the hedgehog got injured, or the Daily
Muck might say it was the RSPCA. 8-(
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On 15/10/2010 15:08, Bill Grey wrote:
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As a general rule you can prune most things after they have finished
flowering or in autumn. But it helps to know if they are eg tip bearing
fruit trees or pyracantha if you want decent fruit set next year. A few
things with a tendency to rot or fungal infection have to be done at
exactly the right time of year and/or weather conditions.


Ah so you did see my question! I I had taken the hup as you call it I
would have raied the poit earlier

Sambucus is pretty much a rampant weed unless it is the black cultivar.
I'd say inadvisable to grow the wild form in a small garden.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thank you the pruning advice, see how easy it is to respond to a simple
question?
Just for the record mine is the Sambucus nigra (Black Lace) which I
believe is a relative of the Elderberry. From you advice above, I take I
can now trim back my Photinia.


Bill, a small word of (unasked for) advice, if I may.
Please take it on the chin if you get no replies, it sometimes happens, so
then you have to research elsewhere. No-one is obliged to offer advice,
there may be many reasons, like they don't know or work interferes with
reading Usenet especially if more than one ng is read, so has to be skimmed
(as in my case)

If I know the answer I will help, as will most but it's not a given right to
expect it. Getting sarcastic like "see how easy that was?" when Martin
replied is unlikely to make you popular on here, and it would be a pity if
that happened as there are so many great folks with a lot of knowledge on
this group.
I'm trying to say this in a kindly way as that's how I mean this.
Tina





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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-10-15 17:44:29 +0100, "Pete" said:



"Sacha" wrote in message
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Nobody speaks for everyone else, you know! But FWIW I think there are
crossed wires here. It IS a discussion group and as a result people
often ask for, get and give advice. But what the Charter doesn't do is
*promise* that advice will be given or questions answered. You'll also
see conflicting opinions and the manner of expressing them can become a
bit heated! But on the whole, if you have a question someone can
answer, I'm sure they will. But you can't *expect* an answer to a
post - either there's nobody who knows the answer, or the subject
doesn't interest people. And again, FWIW, many people - if not most -
have a very keen interest on the wildlife that comes into their garden
because there is a valuable interaction between wildlife and garden
pests, to say nothing of the great pleasure we get from seeing the
creatures.



It is when we are expected to tolerate cats in the wildlife scenario that
things go wrong.

btw Please do not forget snippo - snippo


Wrong group. Vasectomies are thataway

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You owe me a new keyboard, Sacha, I had tea in my mouth and now it's all
over the place ;-) including on my brand new flat monitor too.
Please send me your address for the invoice!
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Ah so you did see my question! I I had taken the hup as you call it I
would have raied the poit earlier

Sambucus is pretty much a rampant weed unless it is the black cultivar.
I'd say inadvisable to grow the wild form in a small garden.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Thank you the pruning advice, see how easy it is to respond to a simple
question?
Just for the record mine is the Sambucus nigra (Black Lace) which I
believe is a relative of the Elderberry. From you advice above, I take I
can now trim back my Photinia.


Bill, a small word of (unasked for) advice, if I may.
Please take it on the chin if you get no replies, it sometimes happens, so
then you have to research elsewhere. No-one is obliged to offer advice,
there may be many reasons, like they don't know or work interferes with
reading Usenet especially if more than one ng is read, so has to be
skimmed (as in my case)

If I know the answer I will help, as will most but it's not a given right
to expect it. Getting sarcastic like "see how easy that was?" when Martin
replied is unlikely to make you popular on here, and it would be a pity if
that happened as there are so many great folks with a lot of knowledge on
this group.
I'm trying to say this in a kindly way as that's how I mean this.
Tina


And a word from "him" as well.

If you do not get an immediate response - perhaps sarcasm is not the way to
respond.
"Thanks for all your help"-- you wrote - indeed, when nobody had actually
helped !

A polite re-request, giving perhaps more detail, is all that is needed.

Regards
Pete
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On 2010-10-15 00:47:20 +0100, chris French
said:
Hmmmm not sure about the insurance being a waste of money. We cancelled
the insurance on ours and one ran out in front of a car and required
nearly £1k worth of treatment!


Accidents such as you've quoted are very upsetting as well as expensive,
however quite rare.
Over the eleven years I've been paying insurance, I shudder to think how
much I've coughed up!
Now I'm saving in separate a acount the amount the Insurance company
wanted me to pay.


I think that's a good idea, it's what I've been doing for years. Ideally,
of course, you should start it as early in your pet's life as you can as
barring accidents they are usually healthy until they get elderly.
In the main I've always had enough in my vet account to cover what was
needed.
Tina




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In message , Jake
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:10:11 +0100, Gordon H
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Many years ago my mate's dog (big daft retriever) ran into the road and
caused a van to swerve to avoid it and finish on its roof.
The cost of any injury to the dog was the least of his worries, and he
was lucky not to be sued for injury/damage to the van driver.

After that the dog was kept under close control.


A lot of home insurance policies now seem to cover liability for
accidents caused by a dog - both my current and last insurers said
that taking that clause out of the policy wouldn't reduce my premium.


That's annoying when you don't have a dog.
Like the car insurance risk when you keep your car in a locked garage
rather than leave it at the kerbside.
Sorry, that's drifting even further off topic...
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It would not be too annoying if your car was written off avoiding a dog and
you found you could claim though, would it?
Tina


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"Bill Grey" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"Bill Grey" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in
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But you needed the vet and are complaining it cost £7 to put your cat
right!!


I was happy to pay to have my dog (get your animals right)


sorry about that


Accepted - an simple mistake to make.


Stop moaning about £7 for a tablet that was needed out of hours.


Just to clarify, at the espense of boring everyone, the phenobarbitone
was a standard treatment - not something the vet had diagnosed as
necessary. I f you want me to expand on the treatment I'll do it by
e-mail.

I have said that I was happy pay the full bill for the treatment received,
but considereded the phenobarbitone admiistration too expensive for what
ctually itentailed.

Not moaning about it, just stating a fact.

You were lucky,


......yes lucky that the facility existed to look after my dog in his hour
of need.

Exactly. I have friends in America and almost all vets work office hours
9-5 there, Mon-Fri, to access an emergency vet they almost have to get a new
mortgage.
My vet offers 24/7, 365 days a year service, yes, it costs, but I've been
very grateful for it, especially when one of my dogs collapsed on a Bank
Holiday Monday with a ruptured spleen from a small tumour she had on it that
burst. It was not suspected as there'd been no symptoms.
She was saved.
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You owe me a new keyboard, Sacha, I had tea in my mouth and now it's all
over the place ;-) including on my brand new flat monitor too.
Please send me your address for the invoice!
Tina


I'd much rather you bring it over. ;-)) (PS: see how good I am with a
pair of sharp scissors?)




Very Ha Ha indeed (:-(

At least the penny seems to have dropped.
Probably accidentally on your two parts, I have to suggest (:-)

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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It would not be too annoying if your car was written off avoiding a dog
and you found you could claim though, would it?



Not on your doggy or house insurance you wouldn't.
That is why we pay a fortune to insure our cars separately.

Regards
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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You were lucky,


......yes lucky that the facility existed to look after my dog in his
hour of need.

Exactly. I have friends in America and almost all vets work office hours
9-5 there, Mon-Fri, to access an emergency vet they almost have to get a
new mortgage.
My vet offers 24/7, 365 days a year service, yes, it costs, but I've been
very grateful for it, especially when one of my dogs collapsed on a Bank
Holiday Monday with a ruptured spleen from a small tumour she had on it
that burst. It was not suspected as there'd been no symptoms.
She was saved.
Tina


Ah! Nice story.
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"Gordon H" wrote in message
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In message , Jake
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:10:11 +0100, Gordon H
wrote:

Many years ago my mate's dog (big daft retriever) ran into the road and
caused a van to swerve to avoid it and finish on its roof.
The cost of any injury to the dog was the least of his worries, and he
was lucky not to be sued for injury/damage to the van driver.

After that the dog was kept under close control.

A lot of home insurance policies now seem to cover liability for
accidents caused by a dog - both my current and last insurers said
that taking that clause out of the policy wouldn't reduce my premium.


That's annoying when you don't have a dog.
Like the car insurance risk when you keep your car in a locked garage
rather than leave it at the kerbside.
Sorry, that's drifting even further off topic...
--

It would not be too annoying if your car was written off avoiding a dog and
you found you could claim though, would it?
Tina

I doubt that it would happen, but I would actually be very annoyed!

I once braked hard and instinctively when a dog dashed across the road
in front of us.
My daughter who was probably about 7 at the time was thrown against the
back of a front seat, and cut her lip.

I have never taken violent action to avoid a dog or any small animal
since then, but have never hit one.
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On 2010-10-16 16:46:02 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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On 2010-10-15 17:44:29 +0100, "Pete"
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snip

btw Please do not forget snippo - snippo

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You owe me a new keyboard, Sacha, I had tea in my mouth and now it's all
over the place ;-) including on my brand new flat monitor too.
Please send me your address for the invoice!
Tina


I'd much rather you bring it over. ;-)) (PS: see how good I am with a
pair of sharp scissors?)


It's a bit too far to come. You are a girl after my own heart, though.

I used to be quite a radical feminist in the 80's-90's. I've calmed down a
lot now although can occasionally spark up
again.
Tina


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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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You owe me a new keyboard, Sacha, I had tea in my mouth and now it's all
over the place ;-) including on my brand new flat monitor too.
Please send me your address for the invoice!
Tina


I'd much rather you bring it over. ;-)) (PS: see how good I am with a
pair of sharp scissors?)




Very Ha Ha indeed (:-(

At least the penny seems to have dropped.
Probably accidentally on your two parts, I have to suggest (:-)


Accidentally? What are you suggesting? That Sacha & myself are stupid? I
think you will find that is not the case. I would go so far as to suggest
that if that's what you are saying, you might regret that.

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At least the penny seems to have dropped.
Probably accidentally on your two parts, I have to suggest (:-)


Accidentally? What are you suggesting? That Sacha & myself are stupid?
I think you will find that is not the case. I would go so far as to
suggest that if that's what you are saying, you might regret that.



You're forgetting snippo again (:-)
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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At least the penny seems to have dropped.
Probably accidentally on your two parts, I have to suggest (:-)


Accidentally? What are you suggesting? That Sacha & myself are stupid?
I think you will find that is not the case. I would go so far as to
suggest that if that's what you are saying, you might regret that.



You're forgetting snippo again (:-)
Regards
Pete



I decide if I want to snip, not you.

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