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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a tap -
with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?

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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a tap -
with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for where
you want to undo and reconnect.


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Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
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Charlie Pridham wrote:

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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a tap -
with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for where
you want to undo and reconnect.

Our mains pressure is such that, long term, hosepipe will balloon and
eventually burst (long term being some weeks).

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What's a geko (apart from a lizardy thying)?

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap - with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where you want to undo and reconnect.


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Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap - with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where you want to undo and reconnect.


--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


What's a geko (apart from a lizardy thying)?


A metal connector in two halfs which twist together and lock with rubber
seals, much more reliable than those snap connectors. (I may have spelt it
wrong!)

There shouldn't be pressure on the hose, fit the timer valve to the tap and
the hose to it, so if the valve is shut, no pressure on the hose, if the
valve is open then so are the watering outlets so you shouldn't get full
pressure and even if you do it will only be for a few minuets


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Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk



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There shouldn't be pressure on the hose, fit the timer valve to the tap
and the hose to it, so if the valve is shut, no pressure on the hose, if
the valve is open then so are the watering outlets so you shouldn't get
full pressure and even if you do it will only be for a few minuets

I love a good minuet

Pete C


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There shouldn't be pressure on the hose, fit the timer valve to the tap
and the hose to it, so if the valve is shut, no pressure on the hose, if
the valve is open then so are the watering outlets so you shouldn't get
full pressure and even if you do it will only be for a few minuets

I love a good minuet

Pete C

Sorry its the name of a clematis and I am always getting muddled :~)


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I don't actually want to use a timer - I just want to use a hosepipe without
water pouring down the house wall or the whole lot blowing off the tap. I
have at least 12 of these connectors - all the correct size but everyone
leaks, and I can guarantee if I bought a new one tomorrow that would leak as
well.

(but then we are sending our 3rd new fridge back because it doesn't work
properly;, have just bought a vacuum cleaner that is hopeless and given up
with it, and have a bill for £9000 for our extension plumbing, and that
doesn't work correctly either, so maybe its us)



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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap - with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the
mains tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the
name.

Is it just me?

They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where you want to undo and reconnect.


--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


What's a geko (apart from a lizardy thying)?


A metal connector in two halfs which twist together and lock with rubber
seals, much more reliable than those snap connectors. (I may have spelt it
wrong!)

There shouldn't be pressure on the hose, fit the timer valve to the tap
and the hose to it, so if the valve is shut, no pressure on the hose, if
the valve is open then so are the watering outlets so you shouldn't get
full pressure and even if you do it will only be for a few minuets


--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


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On Sun, 29 May 2011 11:45:26 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
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"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap -
with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where
you want to undo and reconnect.


We fitted a tap with the correct screw thread. The tap its self leaks.


Then if you are unable to fix it, get a plumber in!

Alan


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On Sun, 29 May 2011 21:38:10 +0100, "alan.holmes"
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 May 2011 11:45:26 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
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"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap -
with the tap open.

Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.

Is it just me?

They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where
you want to undo and reconnect.


We fitted a tap with the correct screw thread. The tap its self leaks.


Then if you are unable to fix it, get a plumber in!

Alan


--

Martin



It's surprising how many garden taps leak, usually from the point
where the spindle with the handle at one end meets the tap body at the
other. Try tightening the nut that you'll find on the main body at
that point. But don't tighten too much or you won't be able to turn
the tap on/off.

I replaced both outside taps this year with taps that weren't part of
a kit. The taps cost about as much as the kits did originally. But
they don't leak. And they don't use that bendy hose thing that comes
in tap kits but are connected straight onto copper pipe coming thru
the wall. Water pressure's better as a result.

But as Alan says, if you can't sort the problem, try a plumber.

Down the line, plastic connectors can be a problem. Despite what they
say about compatibility, there are little differences between brands
and it's far better to stick to a single brand for all your
connections, be it Hozelock, Gardena or whatever. And if you want
longevity, investing in brass isn't a stupid idea.

Someone suggested pressure reducers. Hopefully you've got a stop
tap/cock in the pipework to the outside tap. Close it, say, half way
to begin with and see if that stops things springing off the
connectors (but bear in mind that different brands may mismatch).


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On May 29, 9:53*pm, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 21:38:10 +0100, "alan.holmes"





wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 May 2011 11:45:26 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:


"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap -
with the tap open.


Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name..


Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where
you want to undo and reconnect.


We fitted a tap with the correct screw thread. The tap its self leaks.


Then if you are unable to fix it, get a plumber in!


Alan


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Martin


It's surprising how many garden taps leak, usually from the point
where the spindle with the handle at one end meets the tap body at the
other. Try tightening the nut that you'll find on the main body at
that point. But don't tighten too much or you won't be able to turn
the tap on/off.

I replaced both outside taps this year with taps that weren't part of
a kit. The taps cost about as much as the kits did originally. But
they don't leak. And they don't use that bendy hose thing that comes
in tap kits but are connected straight onto copper pipe coming thru
the wall. Water pressure's better as a result.

But as Alan says, if you can't sort the problem, try a plumber.

Down the line, plastic connectors can be a problem. Despite what they
say about compatibility, there are little differences between brands
and it's far better to stick to a single brand for all your
connections, be it Hozelock, Gardena or whatever. And if you want
longevity, investing in brass isn't a stupid idea.

Someone suggested pressure reducers. Hopefully you've got a stop
tap/cock in the pipework to the outside tap. Close it, say, half way
to begin with and see if that stops things springing off the
connectors (but bear in mind that different brands may mismatch).- Hide quoted text -

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I said pressure reducing valve. Nothing to do with stopcocks.

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On 29/05/2011 21:53, Jake wrote:

It's surprising how many garden taps leak, usually from the point
where the spindle with the handle at one end meets the tap body at the
other. Try tightening the nut that you'll find on the main body at
that point. But don't tighten too much or you won't be able to turn
the tap on/off.


Funnily enough, the garden tap I fitted 10 years ago has been leaking
around the spindle for a couple of months. On dismantling it, I was
surprised to find a hard white plastic bevelled washer which was
supposed to act as a seal when the spindle nut was tightened. I assume
this had distorted over the years. A dab of grease on the washer worked
for a couple of weeks, but then it started leaking again. A bit of
sisal (at least 50 years old) and a little grease was packed above the
washer and the spindle nut replaced and tightened just enough to allow
the tap to turn with a bit of resistance. No leaking so far.

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On May 30, 9:03*am, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 29/05/2011 21:53, Jake wrote:



It's surprising how many garden taps leak, usually from the point
where the spindle with the handle at one end meets the tap body at the
other. Try tightening the nut that you'll find on the main body at
that point. But don't tighten too much or you won't be able to turn
the tap on/off.


Funnily enough, the garden tap I fitted 10 years ago has been leaking
around the spindle for a couple of months. On dismantling it, I was
surprised to find a hard white plastic bevelled washer which was
supposed to act as a seal when the spindle nut was tightened. *I assume
this had distorted over the years. *A dab of grease on the washer worked
for a couple of weeks, but then it started leaking again. *A bit of
sisal (at least 50 years old) and a little grease was packed above the
washer and the spindle nut replaced and tightened just enough to allow
the tap to turn with a bit of resistance. *No leaking so far.

--

Jeff


You can buy "valve stem packing" from a heating engineers supplier.
There are lots of different sorts.
It goes hard after a while and scores the valve stem if you're
unlucky. The stem then needs to be smoothed.
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On May 29, 10:06*pm, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 21:53:44 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 21:38:10 +0100, "alan.holmes"
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 May 2011 11:45:26 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
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"Eurofeeds" wrote in message
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I laugh when I see it suggested that you leave a timer connected to a
tap -
with the tap open.


Every hosepipe and connector I have ever had leak or blows off the mains
tap/sprinkler. And that includes expensive ones with a Z in the name.


Is it just me?


They don't if you use the proper screw thread connectors and gekos for
where
you want to undo and reconnect.


We fitted a tap with the correct screw thread. The tap its self leaks..


Then if you are unable to fix it, get a plumber in!


Alan


--


Martin


It's surprising how many garden taps leak, usually from the point
where the spindle with the handle at one end meets the tap body at the
other. Try tightening the nut that you'll find on the main body at
that point. But don't tighten too much or you won't be able to turn
the tap on/off.


After a while it un tightens itself and leaks again.
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It needs new packing fitted, it has gone hard.
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"Martin" wrote ...

After a while it un tightens itself and leaks again.


Go to a Plumbers Merchant and get some plumbers grease and use that around
the spindle/nut. The spindle should then revolve in the washer not take the
washer/nut round with it.

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