Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

So if you're concerned, watch out for the tools MS say they're going
to offer to prevent this silent update.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling (after the great storm) from
the usually dryer (east) end of Swansea Bay.

In article , Jake
writes
It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.


The new version or maybe a new version of Google is annoying me quite
deeply at the moment.
If I type anything into the search window at the top the browser goes
off to find stuff before I have even finished which is really
distracting! AND for some reason i have a time lag as i type in the text
since upgrading rather like the olden days when the computer had to
catch up with watch you were keyboarding

and NO i don't want google's idea of "relevant" to what i might be
searching for - it never is
--
Janet Tweedy

Janet, go to Preferences and turn 'Google Instant predictions' to off, you can also set other preferences there as well such as opening each selection in a new tab to save using the back button. Don't forget to click on save preferences when you're done.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Jake wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:29:46 +0000, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Jake wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

David

But you will get IE8 with XP and IE8 doesn't work for me with Inland
Revenue web site (among others). I've also experienced a raft of PDF
problems with IE8 (and 9). I'm now stuck on IE7 as it's the only one
that reliably works when Chrome won't - major issue with Chrome is
with copy and paste.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling (after the great storm) from
the usually dryer (east) end of Swansea Bay.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Martin wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

Some think that that's another good reason to stick with WinXP. If
you stick with WinXP your old PC and your old peripherals will still
work.

Absolutely! I haven't upgraded from XP because I have HP printers and,
despite what HP assure me, that their new drivers for Vista and 7 are
fully featured, they are not!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Jake wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

But you will get IE8 with XP and IE8 doesn't work for me with Inland
Revenue web site (among others). I've also experienced a raft of PDF
problems with IE8 (and 9).

That's strange because I haven't had problems with IE8. Well, once I'd
got used to it, of course!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:24:37 +0000, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Jake wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

But you will get IE8 with XP and IE8 doesn't work for me with Inland
Revenue web site (among others). I've also experienced a raft of PDF
problems with IE8 (and 9).

That's strange because I haven't had problems with IE8. Well, once I'd
got used to it, of course!

David

Might be OS-based problem for me. I'm on Vista and 7. XP was/is a good
OS. Vista is c**p but the cost of up or downgrading gets in the way of
change and as I only use it for low-level graphics/video editing or on
a laptop it doesn't matter too much. IME most driver problems with 7
can be overcome. I've got a multifunction fax/printer/scanner that
*should" only work either wireless OR wired but not both and not with
anything above Vista but I've been able to fix it to work wired with
Win7 and wireless with Vista simultaneously. All it takes is a bit of
lateral thinking.

I know I'm not the only one experiencing problems with IE8/9 and PDFs.

Inland Revenue tech support people acknowledged problems with IE8/9
but blame Adobe. Adobe blame Microsoft who blame Adobe and Inland
Revenue. Filing a tax return on a BlackBerry or an Android device is,
unfortunately, not easy but both cope with the download side so well
it almost makes me weep.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling (after the great storm) from
the usually dryer (east) end of Swansea Bay.

On 17/12/2011 15:33, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Jake
writes
It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.


The new version or maybe a new version of Google is annoying me quite
deeply at the moment.
If I type anything into the search window at the top the browser goes
off to find stuff before I have even finished which is really
distracting! AND for some reason i have a time lag as i type in the text
since upgrading rather like the olden days when the computer had to
catch up with watch you were keyboarding

and NO i don't want google's idea of "relevant" to what i might be
searching for - it never is

That is one advantage of using Firefox with NoScript. I don't allow
Google permission to run scripts, thus I can type the whole search
expression in without it harassing me with irrelevant information.

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

On 17/12/2011 20:33, David in Normandy wrote:
On 17/12/2011 15:33, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In , Jake
writes
It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.


The new version or maybe a new version of Google is annoying me quite
deeply at the moment.
If I type anything into the search window at the top the browser goes
off to find stuff before I have even finished which is really
distracting! AND for some reason i have a time lag as i type in the text
since upgrading rather like the olden days when the computer had to
catch up with watch you were keyboarding

and NO i don't want google's idea of "relevant" to what i might be
searching for - it never is

That is one advantage of using Firefox with NoScript. I don't allow
Google permission to run scripts, thus I can type the whole search
expression in without it harassing me with irrelevant information.

Yes, I also use NoScript to stop Google's scripts. But Google's
continuous fiddling with the code has finally seen me dump Google for
StartPage:
https://eu.startpage.com/

Advanced search:
https://eu.startpage.com/eng/advanced-search.html

It uses Google, but doesn't disclose who is searching for what, and
there is none of that messing around.

Give it a try. If it isn't for you, try something else.

--

Jeff

In article , Granity
writes
Janet, go to 'Preferences' (http://www.google.com/preferences) and turn
'Google Instant predictions' to off, you can also set other preferences
there as well such as opening each selection in a new tab to save using
the back button. Don't forget to click on save preferences when you're
done.


Blimey Granity what actually switched that on then? I Never had it until
about a month ago and it's very distracting to say the least. Thanks for
the tip!
--
Janet Tweedy

On 17/12/2011 22:56, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Granity
writes
Janet, go to 'Preferences' (http://www.google.com/preferences) and turn
'Google Instant predictions' to off, you can also set other preferences
there as well such as opening each selection in a new tab to save using
the back button. Don't forget to click on save preferences when you're
done.


Blimey Granity what actually switched that on then? I Never had it until
about a month ago and it's very distracting to say the least. Thanks for
the tip!

It does assume that you retain cookies between browser sessions so that
Google and other advertisers etc can track everywhere you go on the
internet.

If like me you have the browser automatically delete all cookies when
the browser is closed Google will forget who you are and not know your
preferences any more.

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

On 17/12/2011 23:09, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:23:18 +0000, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 Martin wrote:

Now and again, we discuss different browsers and our experiences with
them. In case you haven't picked it up, from January, Microsoft will
start silently updating Internet Explorer to the latest version - this
isn't security updates, it's updating IE7, say, to IE9.

More info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16214912.

It may be an issue for some people. I use Chrome most of the time but
I've found, e.g., that IE is more reliable when I'm doing my online
tax return, provided I use IE7. IE8 and IE9 don't work.

If you haven't upgraded your operating system to at least Windows Vista,
you'll not get IE9.

Some think that that's another good reason to stick with WinXP. If
you stick with WinXP your old PC and your old peripherals will still
work.

Absolutely! I haven't upgraded from XP because I have HP printers and,
despite what HP assure me, that their new drivers for Vista and 7 are
fully featured, they are not!

The Win 7 driver worked with my old HP printer, however there is no
driver for my Canon scanner, unless I buy one from Vuscan. My webcam
doesn't work with Win&. I can't upgrade two old working Dell WinXP PCs
because it isn't possible to put enough memory in them

Have you searched on the internet to see if anyone has managed to modify
another Canon scanner driver so that it will work with your scanner
under Win7?

I had the same problem with my Epson 2450 scanner (no 64-bit driver),
which still works well on XPH. But after a bit of googling I found a
fix which modifies the Epson 4490 scanner 64-bit driver. The 2450
appears in the guise of a 4490 machine in Control Panel "Devices and
Printers" on my Win7HPx64, but it now works well with that OS.

--

Jeff

In article , Martin
writes
The Win 7 driver worked with my old HP printer, however there is no
driver for my Canon scanner, unless I buy one from Vuscan. My webcam
doesn't work with Win&. I can't upgrade two old working Dell WinXP PCs
because it isn't possible to put enough memory in them
--

Martin


Are you sure you can't download a driver from canon free? Most companies
allow you to reload even ancient drivers.

I actually like XP and hate how the new windows hides stuff like my
files and folders etc. Well not actually hides them but it's not easy to
find the link
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Tried to switch off Google automatic suggestions and did turn off the
option as recommended but the pages still come up as suggestions as I am
trying to type the search string into the window!!
--
Janet Tweedy