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I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Jim Chisholm wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


I didn't use hoops. I just had mesh loosely laid over them, and held in
place with half bricks at 1-2m around edges


Interesting. I tried that once, and it didn't work because they
failed to push it up. That could have been because of heavy rain
at the wrong time, of course.

Regards,
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On Mar 15, 8:06*am, wrote:
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Jim Chisholm wrote:



I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. *Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


I didn't use hoops. I just had mesh loosely laid over them, and held in
place with half bricks *at 1-2m around edges


Interesting. *I tried that once, and it didn't work because they
failed to push it up. *That could have been because of heavy rain
at the wrong time, of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Nick wrote


I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


I've seen that stiff blue plastic water pipe (from Builders Merchants or
skips) used to make hoops with old copper water pipe or dowel pushed into
the ends and used as stakes to keep it upright. If I remember correctly the
chap also tied the tops together with string and staked it at the ends so it
could not get blown over.
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In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

I've seen that stiff blue plastic water pipe (from Builders Merchants or
skips) used to make hoops with old copper water pipe or dowel pushed into
the ends and used as stakes to keep it upright. If I remember correctly the
chap also tied the tops together with string and staked it at the ends so it
could not get blown over.


Thanks, but that's inappropriate for this use, because of storage
space. A couple of dozen heavy gauge wire hoops doesn't take
up too much - a couple of dozen of those does!

The most tedious aspect is having to drive to the other side of
Cambridge (a loathesome trip) to buy the wire.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On Mar 15, 6:42*pm, wrote:
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Bob Hobden wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. *Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


I've seen that stiff blue plastic water pipe (from Builders Merchants or
skips) used to make hoops with old copper water pipe or dowel pushed into
the ends and used as stakes to keep it upright. If I remember correctly the
chap also tied the tops together with string and staked it at the ends so it
could not get blown over.


Thanks, but that's inappropriate for this use, because of storage
space. *A couple of dozen heavy gauge wire hoops doesn't take
up too much - a couple of dozen of those does!

The most tedious aspect is having to drive to the other side of
Cambridge (a loathesome trip) to buy the wire.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


The one thing if you used the black plastic pipe is that you can make
larger hoops with it than wire, and you can use it for covering ground
early as a poly closh and for later crops again as a closh so you may
not be storing the hoops for much of the year.
David @ the normally wet end of Swansea Bay, now in the 6th day of
drought.

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In article ,
Baz wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


Well, I have had success with the barrier method with polythene around
them. Make sure the polythene is buried all around and is 2' high. It works
for me.


Unfortunately, I don't have the space. The effect on rainfall is a
serious problem for me.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Hi Nick, have you thought of ring-fencing your carrot plot with a low
"fence"made of shading material about 2 ft high supported by short bamboo
sticks. This should keep out the carrot fly on its approach to demolish
your carrots. Might be easier than hoops.

Bill


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Bill Grey wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


Hi Nick, have you thought of ring-fencing your carrot plot with a low
"fence"made of shading material about 2 ft high supported by short bamboo
sticks. This should keep out the carrot fly on its approach to demolish
your carrots. Might be easier than hoops.


It might be, but I am pretty sure that it won't be. I have tried
that sort of thing before, for other purposes, and it's a real pain
without very solid end posts and cord holding the top of the fabric.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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In article ,
Baz wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?


Well, I have had success with the barrier method with polythene around
them. Make sure the polythene is buried all around and is 2' high. It
works
for me.


Unfortunately, I don't have the space. The effect on rainfall is a
serious problem for me.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


If I read Baz's suggestion correctly, your remarks just don't make sense.

Bill


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In article ,
Bill Grey wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

Well, I have had success with the barrier method with polythene around
them. Make sure the polythene is buried all around and is 2' high. It
works
for me.


Unfortunately, I don't have the space. The effect on rainfall is a
serious problem for me.


If I read Baz's suggestion correctly, your remarks just don't make sense.


You are probably assuming that rain falls straight down and/or
I have enough room for wide separations. If you have 2' high
impermeable barriers 1' to 1'6" apart, most of the rain will
hit the soil at the bottom of the barriers, where the carrots
aren't. And carrots are not one of the plants with spreading
roots.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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In article ,
Bill Grey wrote:

I think that I am going to give up and fleece my carrots, but I
can't find a reasonable source of small hoops. Does anyone know
of one, or shall I need to get some heavy gauge wire and make
them myself?

Well, I have had success with the barrier method with polythene around
them. Make sure the polythene is buried all around and is 2' high. It
works
for me.

Unfortunately, I don't have the space. The effect on rainfall is a
serious problem for me.


If I read Baz's suggestion correctly, your remarks just don't make sense.


You are probably assuming that rain falls straight down and/or
I have enough room for wide separations. If you have 2' high
impermeable barriers 1' to 1'6" apart, most of the rain will
hit the soil at the bottom of the barriers, where the carrots
aren't. And carrots are not one of the plants with spreading
roots.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


I have the feeling you haven't grasped my original intention'

The idea was to put a barrier rond the entire plot. I think you thought I
meant a barrier along each row.

If there has been a misunderstanding I apologise.

Bill


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