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We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz
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"Baz" wrote in message
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We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


Yes as long as you take a big enough root ball with them.

BUT not now. However by the time the Solicitors and the Estate Agents get
themselves sorted out, (unless you push them) the trees will stand moving.
(I have done a For Sale to Sign in a little under a month. The Solicitor
told me when I said the move date was the end of the month 'It can't be
done' and I told him to 'Do it'. He did :-) Are you likely to move BEFORE
fruit crop?

Mike


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"Baz" wrote in message
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We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?



Anything is possible - however it may be more expensive and time consuming
than buying new ones.
To move an established tree you have to take quite a big root ball.
For garden designers they have these big cranes with a special scoop which
takes out a big chunk of soil all around the tree to keep the roots intact.
They move established trees in and out of garden shows such as Chelsea so it
must be possible.
Just not cheap.
You would have to move them over winter, anyway, to have any hope of them
surviving unless you use the very expensive kit, as far as I can se.

Is there a special reason why you must retain these two trees?

Cheers

Dave R

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Google is a bit of a friend ...... ;-)

Moving a tree or large plant

If your tree or shrub is bigger than 6-7ft, it might be worth buying and
planting a new plant, rather than trying to move it. Any large plant that is
transplanted, will typically take 2-3 years to recover to the same level of
fruit or flower production that it is currently producing.

The best time to move a large plant or tree is in the late-autumn or winter
when the tree is dormant.

Ideally you need to start the preparation of the move the autumn the year
before. Dig a trench around the plant just outside the tips of the leaves
and about 30-45cm (12-18" deep). Cut through any roots, now leave the tree
for a year. The tree will produce fibrous roots on the inside of the trench,
helping the plant get re-established a lot quicker, once moved.

The following year, or if you can't wait, dig down and underneath the tree,
taking as much of the root ball as you can. To protect the roots in transit
drag sacking or plastic underneath the root ball, gather up the four corners
of the sacking and tie to the stem of the plant, wrap delicate branches with
a net curtain or fleece to protect them. The plant can now safely be moved
to its new position.

Dig the new hole before removing the tree from its existing position, this
will reduce the chance of the roots drying out.

Make sure that the tree or shrub is planted at the same level in the ground
as in the original position. A quick tip is to lay a bamboo cane across the
hole, ensuring that the top of the rootball is level with the cane. If it's
not level, take out more soil, or if it's too low, add soil to the planting
hole until it is level.

Before back filling the hole, stand back, and look at the tree/shrub to make
sure that the best side is facing where you will see it most often.

All plants should be watered well before and after moving, potting-on or
planting in a border. Add a good layer of mulch after watering to keep in
moisture.

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We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


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On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:42:55 GMT, Baz wrote:

We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


Cherry roots don't normally go that deep though an established tree
may send down a decent tap root. But they tend to spread beyond the
canopy. So whilst you may not have to dig down all that far, you're
certainly going to have to dig out a fairly large circle and then
transport it intact. Then prepare the hole(s) to receive the trees.
Are you hoping to complete the purchase a few weeks before you
complete the sale? Plus it's a dormant period job, not for high
summer.

A lot of work with a high chance of failure.

Cheers, Jake
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On Jun 9, 4:42*pm, Baz wrote:
We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much bigger
garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to dig out
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10') high
with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


Waste of time.
Even if you succeed, they will have such a setback that new trees will
catch them up.
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"David WE Roberts" wrote in
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Is there a special reason why you must retain these two trees?

Cheers

Dave R


No, Dave, I just thought (wrongly) that I would have a head start over new
ones, and I have took time in pruning them (which I had to learn).
No big deal, but I really like those trees.

Thanks.
Baz
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harry wrote in
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On Jun 9, 4:42*pm, Baz wrote:
We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much
bigger garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to
dig ou

t
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10')
high with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


Waste of time.
Even if you succeed, they will have such a setback that new trees will
catch them up.


Yes, I can see that now. Was just hoping.

Thanks.
Baz
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harry wrote in
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On Jun 9, 4:42*pm, Baz wrote:
We want to move houses and have an eye on a place with a very much
bigger garden than we have now.
Problem is that our 2 cherry trees are possibly too established to
dig ou

t
and replant. I have had no luck with google.
They were planted 3 years ago, bare rooted and are now aprox.3m(10')
high with 41mm (1 3/4") trunk.

Can I do this?

Baz


Waste of time.
Even if you succeed, they will have such a setback that new trees will
catch them up.


Ah! My reason was to have a head start over new ones.
David WE Roberts and Jake have responded to this post and have also advised
not to move them.
So new trees it is then.

I will be taking the Victoria Plum and Bramley Apple which were planted
this year.

All of this is dependant on finding a buyer for our present house, and
things in the property market are sloooow.

Thanks.
Baz
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:15:53 GMT, Baz wrote:

I will be taking the Victoria Plum and Bramley Apple which were planted
this year.



Remember to lift those two small trees out of the ground and put them
into large tubs (30 litre ones should do at under a fiver a piece if
you shop around) or make it quite clear in the marketing blurb that
you intend to remove them. Your buyer can insist on them being left if
they were in the ground and not mentioned as going when (s)he viewed
the place.

Cheers, Jake
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Jake wrote in
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:15:53 GMT, Baz wrote:

I will be taking the Victoria Plum and Bramley Apple which were planted
this year.



Remember to lift those two small trees out of the ground and put them
into large tubs (30 litre ones should do at under a fiver a piece if
you shop around) or make it quite clear in the marketing blurb that
you intend to remove them. Your buyer can insist on them being left if
they were in the ground and not mentioned as going when (s)he viewed
the place.

Cheers, Jake
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end; I'm at this end. Bill's in the middle.


Yes.
If we tighten our belts we can exchange contracts now but September is when
the property is available at the end of a chain to actually move in. Then
we have to sell our place. Another hassle. Another chain.

Thanks.
Baz
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