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Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the
house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked: http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt. The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass, with no bits below the soil level There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they do appear to be different. We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them! But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-( Any thoughts? -- |
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Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked: http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt. The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass, with no bits below the soil level There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they do appear to be different. We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them! But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-( Any thoughts? Well, I wouldn't eat all of them, though I would probably eat most of them. They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is not to pick them until they have started to open and their gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing amoung a mass of Agaricus. The huge flat ones with dark gills are almost certainly mature versions of this - that is exactly how they develop. I would have no hesitation in eating the ones that meet the safe rule for Agaricus, which would include most of those and the huge flat ones. But I would perform the check list first! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is not to pick them until they have started to open and their gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing amoung a mass of Agaricus. So what's the key to the difference between the two? I hadn't realised amanita were very similar to the common. I'm guessing you're specifically thinking of the death cap? And from the picture here I'm guessing the differences are the gill colour is white/pale, and stem bag? Warning: as I said earlier, field mushrooms are among the most dangerous, as you need skill to identify them safely. I am NOT giving enough advice in the following to do that, but only enough to respond to the post. Amanita (and phalloides is not the only lethal one - there are also verna and virosa) have white gills and a volva (the stem bag). But the latter can easy disappear for many reasons, so the critical test is that the gills are VERY clearly pinkish brown to chocolate brown and a secondary is that there is no volva. And you need to be careful to distinguish discoloured whitish gills from pink ones, which is where there is no substitute for being shown the difference. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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: wrote: They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is not to pick them until they have started to open and their gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing amoung a mass of Agaricus. So what's the key to the difference between the two? Ah, an easy question to answer: most (but not all) agaricus/psalliota are perfectly edible and delicious. Most (but not all) amanita are very dangerous. Distinguishing between them requires significant expertise and, given the consequences, nobody in their right mind would give sufficient information for you to believe that you could distinguish them before eating them. And you would be wise to ignore any simple tests/descriptions. If you are still interested, get *several* highly regarded books (e.g. Philips) and attend a local fungi identification course. I hadn't realised amanita were very similar to the common. I'm guessing you're specifically thinking of the death cap? And from the picture here I'm guessing the differences are the gill colour is white/pale, and stem bag? See above. |
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Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common' (field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet. Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round. |
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Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common' (field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet. Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round. Well, it has been a funny year - but, even so, I'd still be wary of anything resembling a field mushroom that was around much before the second half of the summer - depending on where you live, of course. Soggy east-of-england |
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wrote in message ... Farmer Giles wrote: I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common' (field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet. Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round. Please don't do it, Vicky. I was lucky to get away with my stupidity as I was told quite clearly on here a few weeks ago. After only a few hours of eating it I was on the toilet constantly for what seemed like days with terrible stomach spasms and pain. I have no idea what it really was, but obviously not what I thought. I do sometimes get parasol mushrooms in my garden, but would I eat them now? No, in case I haven't identified them properly. You can die if you make a mistake. Tina |
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On 06/15/2012 12:10 AM, Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common' (field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet. Agreed. What do the spores look like? |
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Get yourself a copy of Roger Philips Mushrooms book and you'll soon be able to make positive ID's of fungi, although some of the small frail ones can be a right pain but you can ignore them anyway. Just go for the ones that look like normal mushrooms and learn to tell the different families apart, then learn which in those families can be eaten and which cant and which families to leave totally alone. |
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wrote in message ... Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked: http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt. The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass, with no bits below the soil level There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they do appear to be different. We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them! But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-( Any thoughts? -- Be careful, I ate one from my garden a while back, sure it was OK. It wasn't. I spent many hours on the toilet and was lucky it didn't kill me. I thought I knew, but I obviously didn't. I'd never take a risk with what pops up in my garden or outside my house again. I nearly turned inside out. I do know a field mushroom when I see one, but anything else is too risky. Supermarket mushrooms R me now. Never again. :-( |
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There are other fungi which are much less risky.
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