Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the
house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg

They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt.
The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass,
with no bits below the soil level

There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with
dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they
do appear to be different.

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

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In article , wrote:
Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the
house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg

They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt.
The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass,
with no bits below the soil level

There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with
dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they
do appear to be different.

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

Well, I wouldn't eat all of them, though I would probably eat
most of them.

They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common
mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is
not to pick them until they have started to open and their
gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of
including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing
so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing
amoung a mass of Agaricus.

The huge flat ones with dark gills are almost certainly mature
versions of this - that is exactly how they develop. I would
have no hesitation in eating the ones that meet the safe
rule for Agaricus, which would include most of those and the
huge flat ones. But I would perform the check list first!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the
house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg

They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt.
The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass,
with no bits below the soil level

There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with
dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they
do appear to be different.

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

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Be careful, I ate one from my garden a while back, sure it was OK. It
wasn't. I spent many hours on the toilet and was lucky it didn't kill me.
I thought I knew, but I obviously didn't.
I'd never take a risk with what pops up in my garden or outside my house
again. I nearly turned inside out.
I do know a field mushroom when I see one, but anything else is too risky.
Supermarket mushrooms R me now. Never again. :-(

wrote:
They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common
mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is
not to pick them until they have started to open and their
gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of
including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing
so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing
amoung a mass of Agaricus.

So what's the key to the difference between the two?
I hadn't realised amanita were very similar to the common. I'm
guessing you're specifically thinking of the death cap? And
from the picture here I'm guessing the differences are the gill
colour is white/pale, and stem bag?

The huge flat ones with dark gills are almost certainly mature
versions of this - that is exactly how they develop. I would

See, that's what I thought, but the darkness of the gills compared
to the baby ones put me off.

have no hesitation in eating the ones that meet the safe
rule for Agaricus, which would include most of those and the
huge flat ones. But I would perform the check list first!

On 14/06/2012 22:50, wrote:
In ,usenet@c omps.org wrote:
Nick has gone mushroom hunting in the grass outside the front of the
house. This is a photo of the bowl he picked:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1393.jpg

They are white, yellow markings where damaged or apparently sunburnt.
The gills are pink. They seem to be growing in a big circle, on grass,
with no bits below the soil level

There are also lots of other types, including some huge flat ones with
dark gills, which I thought were mature versions of this one, but they
do appear to be different.

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

Well, I wouldn't eat all of them, though I would probably eat
most of them.

They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common
mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is
not to pick them until they have started to open and their
gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of
including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing
so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing
amoung a mass of Agaricus.

The huge flat ones with dark gills are almost certainly mature
versions of this - that is exactly how they develop. I would
have no hesitation in eating the ones that meet the safe
rule for Agaricus, which would include most of those and the
huge flat ones. But I would perform the check list first!


I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common'
(field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet.

On 14 Jun 2012 21:38:35 GMT, wrote:

There are also lots of other types, ...

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

Wise. I wouldn't eat wild mushrooms unless I was absolutely sure of
its identity. There are some that look *very* similar to each other,
some of which are edible and harmless others lethal.

As there are "lots of other types" around get your neighbour who eats
them to positively identify the ones he eats and confirm no ill or
psychedelic (unless you are into that sort of thing) affects from
them.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common'
(field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet.

Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather
critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
There are also lots of other types, ...

We're /fairly/ sure they're safe, as one of our neighbours eats them!
But mushrooms still scare me when they're not from the supermarket. :-(

Any thoughts?

Wise. I wouldn't eat wild mushrooms unless I was absolutely sure of
its identity. There are some that look *very* similar to each other,
some of which are edible and harmless others lethal.

As there are "lots of other types" around get your neighbour who eats
them to positively identify the ones he eats and confirm no ill or
psychedelic (unless you are into that sort of thing) affects from
them.

I wasn't going to go near any of the others. Did you look at the other
photos in the directory? (I'm assuming Nick did, as he looked at the
flat/mature ones) There are some pretty inside-out-looking pinky purple
ones, and some parasol-shaped ones, which don't look in the slightest
edible, but they're pretty all the same.

parasol - http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1387.jpg
flat - http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1390.jpg
pointy - http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1386.jpg
purple - http://comps.org/vicky/mushrooms/IMAG1384.jpg

On 14/06/2012 23:21, wrote:
Farmer wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common'
(field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet.

Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather
critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round.

Well, it has been a funny year - but, even so, I'd still be wary of
anything resembling a field mushroom that was around much before the
second half of the summer - depending on where you live, of course.

Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common'
(field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet.

Well, it's been a funny year. But I thought they were cooler weather
critters, spring and autumn. These pop up almost all year round.

Well, it has been a funny year - but, even so, I'd still be wary of
anything resembling a field mushroom that was around much before the
second half of the summer - depending on where you live, of course.

Soggy east-of-england

In article , wrote:

They are almost certainly Agaricus/Psalliota (i.e. common
mushrooms), but one of the key rules of picking those is
not to pick them until they have started to open and their
gills are a very definite pinkish brown. The chances of
including an Amanita are very low, but the cost of doing
so is vast. And, yes, you CAN get a single Amanita growing
amoung a mass of Agaricus.

So what's the key to the difference between the two?
I hadn't realised amanita were very similar to the common. I'm
guessing you're specifically thinking of the death cap? And
from the picture here I'm guessing the differences are the gill
colour is white/pale, and stem bag?

Warning: as I said earlier, field mushrooms are among the most
dangerous, as you need skill to identify them safely. I am NOT
giving enough advice in the following to do that, but only
enough to respond to the post.

Amanita (and phalloides is not the only lethal one - there are
also verna and virosa) have white gills and a volva (the stem
bag). But the latter can easy disappear for many reasons, so
the critical test is that the gills are VERY clearly pinkish
brown to chocolate brown and a secondary is that there is no
volva. And you need to be careful to distinguish discoloured
whitish gills from pink ones, which is where there is no
substitute for being shown the difference.



Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 06/15/2012 12:10 AM, Farmer Giles wrote:
I'd be very wary of them myself for the simple reason that 'common'
(field) mushrooms are not usually about for a few weeks yet.

Agreed. What do the spores look like?

wrote:
Warning: as I said earlier, field mushrooms are among the most
dangerous, as you need skill to identify them safely. I am NOT
giving enough advice in the following to do that, but only
enough to respond to the post.

I promise not to sue you when we're all dead. ;-)
(honest)

On 14 Jun 2012 22:25:03 GMT, wrote:

I wasn't going to go near any of the others. Did you look at the other
photos in the directory?

No I just followed the link. I know enough about mushrooms to know
it's not safe to eat 'em unless you are *sure* they are edible. Other
comments in this thread shows that beings *sure* is not easy or
straight forward.

YHM BTW.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Jun 15, 12:24*am, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On 14 Jun 2012 22:25:03 GMT, wrote:

I wasn't going to go near any of the others. *Did you look at the other
photos in the directory?

No I just followed the link. I know enough about mushrooms to know
it's not safe to eat 'em unless you are *sure* they are edible. Other
comments in this thread shows that beings *sure* is not easy or
straight forward.

YHM BTW.

--
Cheers
Dave.

http://www.shroomery.org/5298/Mushroom-Hunting

Might be of help to anyone not sure of what they are looking
at..................