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Thanks for all your efforts. I'm now nervous about keeping this plant in
my care in case i do the wrong thing looking after it and have now handed
it to my cousin since she is really good with plants and will sense more
than anything on what action to take.

Here is a tinypic photo showing the roots. Hope this helps. Thanks.

http://tinypic.com/r/w9vdya/6





Those roots are almost a dead ringer for those of, say, a cymbidium. Do I
even seen green in the roots? That makes me wonder if it has a similar
lifestyle and is epiphytic of lithophytic.
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:18:17 +0000, Sacha wrote:


I saw a photo of a Liriope with one flower open and it had long
stamens. But there are so few photos like that, it's impossible to be
sure. Also whatever this is, it seems to have strongly reflexed petals
as well. Kay is, of course, quite right that it can't be Spiranthes.
I had never heard of that before and must have seen something on the
same page but got the wrong name.


Grasping at straws a bit but something is saying hedychium to me.
Young plant, not yet formed a tuber. When everything else is ruled
out, the impossible becomes possible.

Cheers, Jake


Flower structure is wrong, but I can see what you mean about the roots, I
don't grow any orchids but don't they have similar roots?

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"The Original Jake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:18:17 +0000, Sacha wrote:


I saw a photo of a Liriope with one flower open and it had long
stamens. But there are so few photos like that, it's impossible to be
sure. Also whatever this is, it seems to have strongly reflexed petals
as well. Kay is, of course, quite right that it can't be Spiranthes.
I had never heard of that before and must have seen something on the
same page but got the wrong name.


Grasping at straws a bit but something is saying hedychium to me.
Young plant, not yet formed a tuber. When everything else is ruled
out, the impossible becomes possible.

Cheers, Jake


Flower structure is wrong, but I can see what you mean about the roots, I
don't grow any orchids but don't they have similar roots?

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Thanks to all for your efforts. The most i have been able to find out is
that it comes from a sub-tropical region in south east Asia.

We now have one piece in a pot (using granulated bonzai soil with gravel for
drainage at the bottome of the pot) on a south facing window indoors
(London) and one on an east facing window using the same bonzai soil.

Also one standing in water (we have very low chlorine count in the tap water
here) indoors on the south facing window. How often should we change the
tapwater in the glass vase please?

If no-one is readily able to identify it, and it might be a rarity should i
consider offering a piece to somewhere like Kew Gardens or similar? I guess
they get fed up with people offering them this and that.

Based on what type you are guessing it might be, we would be grateful for
any pointers in its care. i.e. left in water, in sunlight or shade etc etc.
Thanks.






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I'd like to suggest that you send Kew the photo of both flower and roots
first. It might not be rare in its native country but it's obviously
unusual here. Otoh, you could post it on Twitter and/or Facebook and see
if anyone there can help you. If you don't use either of those, someone
here might or one of your friends could help, perhaps.



Strange,
I sent of pictures of mine and the one in question her to Wisley in the
last hour.
Sacha, did Ray find the one I brought down last time?
David @ the showery end of Swansea bay.
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On 04/12/2012 14:58, Sacha wrote:
On 2012-12-04 14:24:55 +0000, David Hill
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I'd like to suggest that you send Kew the photo of both flower and roots
first. It might not be rare in its native country but it's obviously
unusual here. Otoh, you could post it on Twitter and/or Facebook and see
if anyone there can help you. If you don't use either of those, someone
here might or one of your friends could help, perhaps.



Strange,
I sent of pictures of mine and the one in question her to Wisley in
the last hour.
Sacha, did Ray find the one I brought down last time?
David @ the showery end of Swansea bay.


Yes, he's got it! Things have been moved around a lot for the winter
clean up so he had to go a-hunting!


And Ray has no idea as to what it is?


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"jim west" wrote
Thanks to all for your efforts. The most i have been able to find out is
that it comes from a sub-tropical region in south east Asia.

We now have one piece in a pot (using granulated bonzai soil with gravel
for drainage at the bottome of the pot) on a south facing window indoors
(London) and one on an east facing window using the same bonzai soil.

Also one standing in water (we have very low chlorine count in the tap
water here) indoors on the south facing window. How often should we change
the tapwater in the glass vase please?

If no-one is readily able to identify it, and it might be a rarity should i
consider offering a piece to somewhere like Kew Gardens or similar? I guess
they get fed up with people offering them this and that.

Based on what type you are guessing it might be, we would be grateful for
any pointers in its care. i.e. left in water, in sunlight or shade etc etc.



Those roots are so like a cymbidium orchid that I'm wondering if it's come
from a similar habitat, that is it's epiphytic. In which case bonsai soil is
totally wrong and it needs a very open mossy tree stump type compost just
like a cymbidium would.
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Regards. Bob Hobden.
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"Sacha" wrote

"Bob Hobden" said:

"jim west" wrote
Thanks to all for your efforts. The most i have been able to find out
is that it comes from a sub-tropical region in south east Asia.

We now have one piece in a pot (using granulated bonzai soil with gravel
for drainage at the bottome of the pot) on a south facing window indoors
(London) and one on an east facing window using the same bonzai soil.

Also one standing in water (we have very low chlorine count in the tap
water here) indoors on the south facing window. How often should we
change the tapwater in the glass vase please?

If no-one is readily able to identify it, and it might be a rarity
should i consider offering a piece to somewhere like Kew Gardens or
similar? I guess they get fed up with people offering them this and
that.

Based on what type you are guessing it might be, we would be grateful
for any pointers in its care. i.e. left in water, in sunlight or shade
etc etc.



Those roots are so like a cymbidium orchid that I'm wondering if it's
come from a similar habitat, that is it's epiphytic. In which case bonsai
soil is totally wrong and it needs a very open mossy tree stump type
compost just like a cymbidium would.


But the flowers are nothing like, surely?


It's certainly not an orchid, what I'm saying is the roots look exactly like
those of a cymbidium so perhaps it comes from a similar growing
medium/environment needing an open growing medium containing lots of air.
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