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On 25/01/2013 10:28, Peter Clinch wrote:
I use a "50m water resistant" watch. It seems to do pretty well upside down in the sea when surfing kayaks and given it can do that it's not surprising it survives wetter Os too. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me at all if all "50m water resistant" watches were /not/ created anything like equal. Mine's a Casio (as was its predecessor, which also did genuinely underwater fine, but I managed to bugger it up somehow trying to change the battery). Pete. Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] I did not want the risks inherent in a DIY battery replacement, nor the cost of a manufacturer battery replacement every year or so. [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery and, eventually, that might replacing. But is is not one of those "It's Christmas coming up so I'll need a new watch battery" affairs. [2] Yes, there are other manufacturers who avoid the need for regular battery changes - and still not need winding. My partner's Eco Drive watch had been so good, for her, that I went down the same route. -- Rod |
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Huge wrote: On 2013-01-25, polygonum wrote: On 25/01/2013 10:28, Peter Clinch wrote: I use a "50m water resistant" watch. It seems to do pretty well upside down in the sea when surfing kayaks and given it can do that it's not surprising it survives wetter Os too. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me at all if all "50m water resistant" watches were /not/ created anything like equal. Mine's a Casio (as was its predecessor, which also did genuinely underwater fine, but I managed to bugger it up somehow trying to change the battery). Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] I did not want the risks inherent in a DIY battery replacement, nor the cost of a manufacturer battery replacement every year or so. I have a Seiko diving watch, which I have owned for nearly 30 years. It's had 3 batteries in that time ... I have a low-end Lorus (100m!), which is on at least its third, probably fourth, battery. How long? A couple of decades at least. But I don't bath, bathe or dive with it :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote:
On 25/01/2013 10:28, Peter Clinch wrote: I use a "50m water resistant" watch. It seems to do pretty well upside down in the sea when surfing kayaks and given it can do that it's not surprising it survives wetter Os too. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me at all if all "50m water resistant" watches were /not/ created anything like equal. Mine's a Casio (as was its predecessor, which also did genuinely underwater fine, but I managed to bugger it up somehow trying to change the battery). Pete. Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] I did not want the risks inherent in a DIY battery replacement, nor the cost of a manufacturer battery replacement every year or so. Current Casio reckons 10 year battery life, assuming a certain amount of use of the light (which I very rarely use). It was ~ £20 so assuming worst case and it doesn't survive the battery replacement I think I'll have pretty fair value for money. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On 25/01/2013 17:16, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:03:42 +0000 (GMT), wrote: I regard the standard 50m/100m markings as so much marketing bullshit, and doubt that the watches are even tested - even if they are, it isn't rare for devices to work when straight out of the factory but not after any real use, ... 50m water depth is about 75psi, 100m 150 psi. Not to be laughed at pressures. That's probably about the same pressure it has to survive if you tread on it. ... let alone after having the battery changed. Something that can survive 100m is going need it's seals put back in the right place, carefully. I've heard that you need to get a 200M watch if you want to press the buttons when wet. But they are disposable items anyway these days, unless you want a mechanical one as jewellery. Andy |
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On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote:
Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery If its one of those watches that has a generator driven by your arm movement don't let the storage (wet capacitor?) discharge and remain discharged for weeks or you may find that it refuses to hold a charge again. I had a fairly expensive Seiko Eco drive watch fail in this way after around 3 years. When I enquired about repairs the cost was almost the same as a new watch. Apparently the repair consists of replacing all the innards. Research on the web revealed many unhappy customers with short lived watches that "never required another battery". -- mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On 25/01/2013 20:38, alan wrote:
On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote: Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery If its one of those watches that has a generator driven by your arm movement don't let the storage (wet capacitor?) discharge and remain discharged for weeks or you may find that it refuses to hold a charge again. I had a fairly expensive Seiko Eco drive watch fail in this way after around 3 years. When I enquired about repairs the cost was almost the same as a new watch. Apparently the repair consists of replacing all the innards. Research on the web revealed many unhappy customers with short lived watches that "never required another battery". No - it is light powered. And has some sort of shutdown mechanism (if I have it right, put it in a dark drawer and it will stop even moving the hands ater a while to conserve power). -- Rod |
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"polygonum" wrote in message ... On 25/01/2013 20:38, alan wrote: On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote: Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery If its one of those watches that has a generator driven by your arm movement don't let the storage (wet capacitor?) discharge and remain discharged for weeks or you may find that it refuses to hold a charge again. I had a fairly expensive Seiko Eco drive watch fail in this way after around 3 years. When I enquired about repairs the cost was almost the same as a new watch. Apparently the repair consists of replacing all the innards. Research on the web revealed many unhappy customers with short lived watches that "never required another battery". No - it is light powered. And has some sort of shutdown mechanism (if I have it right, put it in a dark drawer and it will stop even moving the hands ater a while to conserve power). -- Rod Eco-Drive? I was told not to leave mine in the dark for a long period. My daughter and son in law each have a Rolex and they are wound on the arm movement and they have a little stand to put them on which does 'the moving' for them . Mike -- .................................... I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight. .................................... |
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On 25/01/2013 21:53, 'Mike' wrote:
"polygonum" wrote in message ... On 25/01/2013 20:38, alan wrote: On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote: Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery If its one of those watches that has a generator driven by your arm movement don't let the storage (wet capacitor?) discharge and remain discharged for weeks or you may find that it refuses to hold a charge again. I had a fairly expensive Seiko Eco drive watch fail in this way after around 3 years. When I enquired about repairs the cost was almost the same as a new watch. Apparently the repair consists of replacing all the innards. Research on the web revealed many unhappy customers with short lived watches that "never required another battery". No - it is light powered. And has some sort of shutdown mechanism (if I have it right, put it in a dark drawer and it will stop even moving the hands ater a while to conserve power). -- Rod Eco-Drive? I was told not to leave mine in the dark for a long period. My daughter and son in law each have a Rolex and they are wound on the arm movement and they have a little stand to put them on which does 'the moving' for them . Mike Yes - it is best to ensure they regularly get light. Putting in drawer in BAD IDEA - but if done, they do their best to cope is how I understand it. -- Rod |
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Mike' wrote on Jan 25, 2013:
"polygonum" wrote in message ... On 25/01/2013 20:38, alan wrote: On 25/01/2013 12:56, polygonum wrote: Experience of that general nature was one reason I chose a Citizen Eco Drive watch [2]. No battery to replace. [1] [1] I know it does have some sort of energy storage battery If its one of those watches that has a generator driven by your arm movement don't let the storage (wet capacitor?) discharge and remain discharged for weeks or you may find that it refuses to hold a charge again. I had a fairly expensive Seiko Eco drive watch fail in this way after around 3 years. When I enquired about repairs the cost was almost the same as a new watch. Apparently the repair consists of replacing all the innards. Research on the web revealed many unhappy customers with short lived watches that "never required another battery". No - it is light powered. And has some sort of shutdown mechanism (if I have it right, put it in a dark drawer and it will stop even moving the hands ater a while to conserve power). -- Rod Eco-Drive? I was told not to leave mine in the dark for a long period. My daughter and son in law each have a Rolex and they are wound on the arm movement and they have a little stand to put them on which does 'the moving' for them . I've seen those winding devices advertised in those gimmicky catalogues that keep coming through the door. I've never understood the point - don't your relatives move enough to keep their watches wound normally? 50 years ago I had an Omega self-winding watch that would last several days even if I didn't wear it for some reason. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire mike_lane at mac dot com |
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