Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in water
they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed).
Well we can't let the weather hold us up, can we.
They grow or die. I have enough to do it all again.
I expect the broad beans will do it, but the peas may not so will sow them
again when it warms up a bit.

God only knows when we can plant out our brassis.
Baz

On Friday, 5 April 2013 20:53:43 UTC+1, Baz wrote:
Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in water they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed). Well we can't let the weather hold us up, can we. They grow or die. I have enough to do it all again. I expect the broad beans will do it, but the peas may not so will sow them again when it warms up a bit. God only knows when we can plant out our brassis. Baz

I am amazed that you are sowing peas directly in the soil.On our allotment,it used to be possible,but mice eating all of the seed is now the norm.So everyone sows their seed,either in a piece of guttering or in a seed tray,and plants them out 4" apart-in that way one gets a full well spaced row.The theory is that mice like peas when they initially swell after a couple of days-they are very sweet then.However,when the peas throw out a shoot the sugar gets used up in the growth and the remaining pea attached to the growing pea,tastes of starch.Mice sometimes taste mine,but after a couple leave them on top in disgust.
Michael

On 06/04/2013 11:03, michael wrote:
On Friday, 5 April 2013 20:53:43 UTC+1, Baz wrote:
Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in water they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed). Well we can't let the weather hold us up, can we. They grow or die. I have enough to do it all again. I expect the broad beans will do it, but the peas may not so will sow them again when it warms up a bit. God only knows when we can plant out our brassis. Baz

I am amazed that you are sowing peas directly in the soil.On our allotment,it used to be possible,but mice eating all of the seed is now the norm.So everyone sows their seed,either in a piece of guttering or in a seed tray,and plants them out 4" apart-in that way one gets a full well spaced row.The theory is that mice like peas when they initially swell after a couple of days-they are very sweet then.However,when the peas throw out a shoot the sugar gets used up in the growth and the remaining pea attached to the growing pea,tastes of starch.Mice sometimes taste mine,but after a couple leave them on top in disgust.
Michael

I remember my mother soaking the peas over night in paraffin before
sowing, this was to stop the mice eating them, that was 60+ years ago.

"David Hill" wrote

michael wrote:
, Baz wrote:
Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in
water they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed). Well we
can't let the weather hold us up, can we. They grow or die. I have
enough to do it all again. I expect the broad beans will do it, but the
peas may not so will sow them again when it warms up a bit. God only
knows when we can plant out our brassis. Baz

I am amazed that you are sowing peas directly in the soil.On our
allotment,it used to be possible,but mice eating all of the seed is now
the norm.So everyone sows their seed,either in a piece of guttering or in
a seed tray,and plants them out 4" apart-in that way one gets a full well
spaced row.The theory is that mice like peas when they initially swell
after a couple of days-they are very sweet then.However,when the peas
throw out a shoot the sugar gets used up in the growth and the remaining
pea attached to the growing pea,tastes of starch.Mice sometimes taste
mine,but after a couple leave them on top in disgust.
Michael

I remember my mother soaking the peas over night in paraffin before sowing,
this was to stop the mice eating them, that was 60+ years ago.

Tried that David but it didn't work for me, strange mice here obviously.
Some on our site appear to be able to grow straight into the ground and I
did it one year with success, but only once, I now use the guttering method.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 11:21:17 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 06/04/2013 11:03, michael wrote:
On Friday, 5 April 2013 20:53:43 UTC+1, Baz wrote:
Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in water they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed). Well we can't let the weather hold us up, can we. They grow or die. I have enough to do it all again. I expect the broad beans will do it, but the peas may not so will sow them again when it warms up a bit. God only knows when we can plant out our brassis. Baz

I am amazed that you are sowing peas directly in the soil.On our allotment,it used to be possible,but mice eating all of the seed is now the norm.So everyone sows their seed,either in a piece of guttering or in a seed tray,and plants them out 4" apart-in that way one gets a full well spaced row.The theory is that mice like peas when they initially swell after a couple of days-they are very sweet then.However,when the peas throw out a shoot the sugar gets used up in the growth and the remaining pea attached to the growing pea,tastes of starch.Mice sometimes taste mine,but after a couple leave them on top in disgust.
Michael

I remember my mother soaking the peas over night in paraffin before
sowing, this was to stop the mice eating them, that was 60+ years ago.

My mother put a drop of glue on each pea to stop anything eating them.
We kids thought it was to keep them in the soil!

Steve

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michael wrote in
:

On Friday, 5 April 2013 20:53:43 UTC+1, Baz wrote:
Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in
wat
er they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed). Well we
can't let the weather hold us up, can we. They grow or die. I have
enough to do it all again. I expect the broad beans will do it, but
the peas may not so will sow them again when it warms up a bit. God
only knows when we can plant out our brassis. Baz

I am amazed that you are sowing peas directly in the soil.On our
allotment,it used to be possible,but mice eating all of the seed is
now the norm.So everyone sows their seed,either in a piece of
guttering or in a seed tray,and plants them out 4" apart-in that way
one gets a full well spaced row.The theory is that mice like peas when
they initially swell after a couple of days-they are very sweet
then.However,when the peas throw out a shoot the sugar gets used up in
the growth and the remaining pea attached to the growing pea,tastes of
starch.Mice sometimes taste mine,but after a couple leave them on top
in disgust. Michael

We have ferrel cats on our site so that might stop the mice.
Everyone on the allotment that I have talked to sow pea seed directly into
the soil. I will be sowing at home too, probably a double 6m row tomorrow.
Makes it easier when cooking new peas at home, or eaten raw as a sugary
snack.(most never get to the kitchen). I use the pods to make wine.

Baz

On Saturday, 6 April 2013 11:44:52 UTC+1, Bob Hobden wrote:
Tried that David but it didn't work for me, strange mice here obviously.

Some on our site appear to be able to grow straight into the ground and I

did it one year with success, but only once, I now use the guttering method.

--

I used the guttering method as usual and just as they reached the point where most are showing through the compost and I wanted to put them out in the (mouseproofed) coldframe the cold snap started. I hesitated instinctively but experience and my wife said 'just do it'
The last snow went from the garden yesterday (there'd been over 10") and temp down to -3.
They and the sweet peas that went out at the same time are absolutely fine - in fact the peas are ready to go down to the plot.
Also exhumed one of the spuds planted a few days before the snow and they're fine despite the plastic tents being blown away in the storm (found the last of those yesterday as the snow went)
All of those peas and sweet peas have fared better than if I'd kept them soft in our utility room and was trying to harden them off now.
It's a gospel I've been preaching for some years now about keeping hardy plants hardy. However I very nearly failed to practice what I preach - saved from perdition by Mrs Rod.

Rod

In article ,
says...

Sown 2 rows of 8m of both today. I know its cold, but after a soak in water
they will be up in a few days.(fingers and toes crossed).
Well we can't let the weather hold us up, can we.
They grow or die. I have enough to do it all again.
I expect the broad beans will do it, but the peas may not so will sow them
again when it warms up a bit.

God only knows when we can plant out our brassis.
Baz

Planted a couple of rows of broad beans this weekend,
but covered then with plastic, as it is still down to
-3 here at night.

Also planted a seed tape of parsnips, that I bought
cheap when Julian Graves closed down. Real pain to
plant in our lumpy soil and windy site, everytime I
tried to cover it, it moved and twisted or blew away.
I suspect it would be easy if you've got a stone free
very fine soil, but live aint like that here!

Put in a few onion sets as well, and covered them with
bubble wrap polythene.

At least after tonight, there's no frost forecast.

--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales