David Hill wrote in news:b0271vF2r46U1
@mid.individual.net:

On 21/05/2013 22:04, Tom Gardner wrote:
David Hill wrote:
On 21/05/2013 18:09, Tom Gardner wrote:
I have some brambles and roses to clear and would like
to have a /thick/ pair of leather gloves so I don't
experience involuntary acupuncture.

I currently have one glove which is completely made of
thick (1mm, probably 2mm) leather. It does resist
thorns almost completely.

Having looked in my local garden centre and DIY shops,
all I can find is a myriad varieties of sort and/or thin
and/or fleecy gloves that have leather on one side.

Any hints as to how to locate heavy-duty leather gloves
would be appreciated. Or anything else that is suitable
for brambles (and preferably homicidal macaws, but
that's another story).

Thanks

What do you need a pair for?
IF I wear gloves then it's just one on my left hand to pull brambles
etc my right hand holds the secateurs and I don't like using them
with
gloves.

I have the other glove, of course!


The problem with gloves is you tend to grab much harder and force
thorns through the gloves.

Not with my current glove, but I strongly suspect
that would be the result with the gloves I've seen
but haven't bought. Hence my question.


I mostly work bare handed and have a happy evening with a needle
removing stray thorns.

Ah, that is clearly a definition of "happy" that
I'm not familiar with

That lovely feeling as the last thorn is removed.
No pain no gain


No thorn, no pain.
Go and visit the local builders merchant, and part with the thorns.

Baz

Leave them a couple of days and they go septic - then they pop out easily. Much less trouble.

On 22/05/2013 20:34, kay wrote:

David Hill;983726 Wrote:

I mostly work bare handed and have a happy evening with a needle
removing stray thorns.

Leave them a couple of days and they go septic - then they pop out
easily. Much less trouble.


With me that only works for about 5% of the thorns.

I used Welding Gloves for years. Left over from my Apprenticeship in a
shipyard



"Muddymike" wrote in message
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ...

"Tom Gardner" wrote ...

I have some brambles and roses to clear and would like
to have a /thick/ pair of leather gloves so I don't
experience involuntary acupuncture.

I currently have one glove which is completely made of
thick (1mm, probably 2mm) leather. It does resist
thorns almost completely.

Having looked in my local garden centre and DIY shops,
all I can find is a myriad varieties of sort and/or thin
and/or fleecy gloves that have leather on one side.

Any hints as to how to locate heavy-duty leather gloves
would be appreciated. Or anything else that is suitable
for brambles (and preferably homicidal macaws, but
that's another story).


Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

Mike

In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ...

Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

I find that the problem with heavy gloves is that I lose so much
sensation that I become dangerous - either to plants I am pruning
or to myself. Welding gloves might be better than builders' ones,
but I am pretty sure that this applies to ALL gloves. So I rarely
use them, even for fairly vicious work.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

wrote:
In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ...

Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

I find that the problem with heavy gloves is that I lose so much
sensation that I become dangerous - either to plants I am pruning
or to myself.

I need to be dangerous to the brambles, so that's a bonus

How do heavy gloves make you more dangerous to yourself?

I'm guessing something along the lines of not thinking
about long flailing stems catching arms (=wear heavy
sweater) or eyes (= wear glasses) ...

In article ,
Tom Gardner wrote:

Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

I find that the problem with heavy gloves is that I lose so much
sensation that I become dangerous - either to plants I am pruning
or to myself.

I need to be dangerous to the brambles, so that's a bonus

How do heavy gloves make you more dangerous to yourself?

Tools slipping out of my hands. Failing to realise that what I
am relying on for balance (and I balance entirely by touch) is
not stable. But the former is the main one, and applies to
almost every user of potentially dangerous tools. It's a known
cause of industrial accident, in most cases a price worth paying
because of the reduced risk - but sometimes it is the protective
gear that is the main risk.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 24/05/2013 09:40, wrote:
In article ,
Tom Gardner wrote:

Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

I find that the problem with heavy gloves is that I lose so much
sensation that I become dangerous - either to plants I am pruning
or to myself.

I need to be dangerous to the brambles, so that's a bonus

How do heavy gloves make you more dangerous to yourself?

Tools slipping out of my hands. Failing to realise that what I
am relying on for balance (and I balance entirely by touch) is
not stable. But the former is the main one, and applies to
almost every user of potentially dangerous tools. It's a known
cause of industrial accident, in most cases a price worth paying
because of the reduced risk - but sometimes it is the protective
gear that is the main risk.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I find that without gloves you think about every move you make, not just
grab.

In article ,
Martin wrote:

Welders Gloves
http://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/41031...ders-gauntlets

I'll second that.

I find that the problem with heavy gloves is that I lose so much
sensation that I become dangerous - either to plants I am pruning
or to myself.

I need to be dangerous to the brambles, so that's a bonus

How do heavy gloves make you more dangerous to yourself?

Tools slipping out of my hands. Failing to realise that what I
am relying on for balance (and I balance entirely by touch) is
not stable. But the former is the main one, and applies to
almost every user of potentially dangerous tools. It's a known
cause of industrial accident, in most cases a price worth paying
because of the reduced risk - but sometimes it is the protective
gear that is the main risk.

If astronauts can cope, so can you, Nick :-)

If you can find an astronaut with no vestibular (semi-circular
canal) function, I will be a little surprised.

On the slipping out of the hands problem, yes, they can - but the
gloves mean that everything takes many times longer and is VASTLY
more difficult. Not least because they keep making mistakes, no
matter how careful they are.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Martin wrote:
Tools slipping out of my hands. Failing to realise that what I
am relying on for balance (and I balance entirely by touch) is
not stable. But the former is the main one, and applies to
almost every user of potentially dangerous tools. It's a known
cause of industrial accident, in most cases a price worth paying
because of the reduced risk - but sometimes it is the protective
gear that is the main risk.

If astronauts can cope, so can you, Nick :-)

I'm with Nick on this one. I have watched footage of space walks and
wondered how on earth they can do anything with all the bulky gear on.
I get claustrophobic just looking at them.

Tools slipping out of my hands. Failing to realise that what I
am relying on for balance (and I balance entirely by touch) is
not stable. But the former is the main one, and applies to
almost every user of potentially dangerous tools. It's a known
cause of industrial accident, in most cases a price worth paying
because of the reduced risk - but sometimes it is the protective
gear that is the main risk.

If astronauts can cope, so can you, Nick :-)

Yes
But
Astronauts undergo at least 2 years if intensive training

Wear welders goggles to protect your eyes from unexpectedly being
exposed to sunlight?

Now that's going a bit fat.
What are the chances of getting sunlight?

On 24/05/2013 13:03, David Hill wrote:

Wear welders goggles to protect your eyes from unexpectedly being
exposed to sunlight?

Now that's going a bit fat.
What are the chances of getting sunlight?


Even a bit Far

wrote:
If you can find an astronaut with no vestibular (semi-circular
canal) function, I will be a little surprised.

I'd have thought that was a distinct advantage for an astronaut.
I suspect when the fluids float around in the labyrinths they
generate all sorts of spurious signals that cause nausea.
No signals = no nausea.

Martin wrote:
Wear welders goggles to protect your eyes from unexpectedly being
exposed to sunlight?

What is this "sunlight" of which you speak?