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On 15/06/2013 22:32, kay wrote:
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Can't be cannabis though. .


Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere



Madeira not Malta

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On 2013-06-14 16:17:07 +0100, Lintama said:

I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


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Not at all sure about these so suggestions only!
1 Could be a Catalpa bignonoides
2 Tetrapanax?
3 Italian parsley? Doubtful!
4 Don't know
5 Sorrel


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Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall. At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned. Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.
I dug up the 'cannabis like' plant from my garden a few weeks ago as I thought the leaves looked interesting and I hadn't seen it before. I can't understand it being Cannabis. Somebody fairly nearby would have to be growing it in their garden and I don't think my neighbours would dare. I live out in the country with only a handful of neighbours.

The seeds I got from Madeira were the Caster Oil and the Morning Glory.
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Lintama;985188 Wrote:


Can't be cannabis though. .


Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.


I think it's Cleome hassleriana.

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The leaves are a bit large for it to be Cleome and the plant is now about a foot tall. I have grown Cleome before and it didn't look like this one.

Thank you for your input though Bob.
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On 16/06/2013 13:19, Lintama wrote:
kay;985212 Wrote:
Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.


I dug up the 'cannabis like' plant from my garden a few weeks ago as I
thought the leaves looked interesting and I hadn't seen it before. I
can't understand it being Cannabis. Somebody fairly nearby would have
to be growing it in their garden and I don't think my neighbours would
dare. I live out in the country with only a handful of neighbours.

The seeds I got from Madeira were the Caster Oil and the Morning Glory.



It's surprising how seeds get moved.
I found a small sunflower coming up at least 100 yds from my feeders, I
don't know if it was moved by Mice, a squirrel taking a chunk of food
with the seed in it or by birds but something moved it, and there is no
way it could have blown there.



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On 2013-06-14 16:17:07 +0100, Lintama said:

I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


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Not at all sure about these so suggestions only!
1 Could be a Catalpa bignonoides
2 Tetrapanax?
3 Italian parsley? Doubtful!
4 Don't know
5 Sorrel


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Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant. Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit. Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice plant that isn't cannabis.
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Still not had a definite ID on any of them. .
Are you not happy with the sorrel identification for no 5? It's been repeated by several people.
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Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.



Right, you're not happy because no one has been able to say with
certainty what the seedlings are.
Now lets see if you can actually give us some help.
You have said that 2 of the seeds came from the hotel car park in Madeira,
Just where did the other 3 come from?
Wild collected?
Packets that you threw away after sowing or where?

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On 16/06/2013 22:19, David Hill wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.



Right, you're not happy because no one has been able to say with
certainty what the seedlings are.
Now lets see if you can actually give us some help.
You have said that 2 of the seeds came from the hotel car park in Madeira,
Just where did the other 3 come from?
Wild collected?
Packets that you threw away after sowing or where?

If you still don't believe my identification of sorrel have a look at
this link.
http://www.turf.uiuc.edu/weed_web/re...rel_plant2.htm
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"Lintama" wrote


I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


DSCF 0458 looks like Acetosa sagittata.

DSFC DSCF0461 looks like a variety of tomato

DSCF 0462 looks like Cleome hassleriana.


For the last one look at this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMS5thMmmlY

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On 2013-06-16 17:19:13 +0100, Lintama said:

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;985236']On 2013-06-14 16:17:07 +0100, Lintama said:
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I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was
on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch
pots.


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Not at all sure about these so suggestions only!
1 Could be a Catalpa bignonoides
2 Tetrapanax?
3 Italian parsley? Doubtful!
4 Don't know
5 Sorrel


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Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.


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I can't believe that you need to throw any of them away. Even if one
of them did turn out to be Cannabis sativa, you have plenty of evidence
that you've tried to establish its identity properly. And imo, none
of them are that. And no, your first plant isn't morning glory which
is Ipomoea and which we grow here as a perfectly legitimate climber.
I'm starting to think of Thunbergia, perhaps gregorrii. I think you'd
help yourself a lot if you took some of them suggestions given here and
fed them into Google images. You don't comment on Numbers 2 or 5, so
your own opinion on a Google image search may be of use to you. It will
be fascinating to get the ID on all these just out of curiosity.
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Are you not happy with the sorrel identification for no 5? It's been repeated by several people.
Hi Kay,

I went out this evening and tasted no.5 plant and it does have a sour taste, a bit like lemon so I think we have an ID on that one. I didn't know what sorrel was but I do now. Thank you.
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I went out this evening and tasted no.5 plant and it does have a sour taste, a bit like lemon so I think we have an ID on that one. I didn't know what sorrel was but I do now. Thank you.
It's a very characteristic leaf. Not many leaves have "ears" like that and coupled with colour, texture and growth habit it's a pretty definite id. Same family as rhubarb, so the acid taste is not unexpected.
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On 2013-06-16 23:33:48 +0100, Lintama said:

kay;985255 Wrote:
Are you not happy with the sorrel identification for no 5? It's been
repeated by several people.


Hi Kay,

I went out this evening and tasted no.5 plant and it does have a sour
taste, a bit like lemon so I think we have an ID on that one. I didn't
know what sorrel was but I do now. Thank you.


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It's a very characteristic leaf. Not many leaves have "ears" like that and coupled with colour, texture and growth habit it's a pretty definite id. Same family as rhubarb, so the acid taste is not unexpected.
Might be good in a salad. Glad I grew it now. Thank you again.
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