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Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system?
I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts tia Malcolm |
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I have been using the Hozelock system for about 4 years for the
greenhouse with no problems. I have however been using the 13mm piping for the 12m between house and greenhouse to eventually deliver to 10 outlets. With only 3 outlets the narrower pipe might well cope. Paul On 11/17/2015 4:18 PM, Malcolm Race wrote: Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts tia Malcolm |
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Malcolm Race wrote:
Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. The notes I have for my Hozelock system say that "No one length of micro tube should be more than 15 m long". I don't know how big your house is, but that looks reasonably hopeful. The small drippers are self-regulating, and three baskets probably won't need a great flow. In any case, just adjust the watering period as required. Other manufacturers are available (just look on line) and the pipe sizes are the same, so you could put together your own system from available parts. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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In message , Malcolm Race
writes Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts The stuff, and compatible stuff is easily available on line. eg Garden4less or Ebay. I can't say if a long run of micro tube will supple enough water for the baskets. Personally I prefer the Tropf blomat system - uses ceramic probes to sense the dampness of the soil and let water our of the valve. No need for timers (which IME, esp if they are hozelock, fail), not over watering when the weather cool/damp. http://www.twowests.co.uk/category/p...umat-watering- systems -- Chris French |
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On 24/11/2015 22:47, Chris French wrote:
In message , Malcolm Race writes Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts The stuff, and compatible stuff is easily available on line. eg Garden4less or Ebay. I can't say if a long run of micro tube will supple enough water for the baskets. Personally I prefer the Tropf blomat system - uses ceramic probes to sense the dampness of the soil and let water our of the valve. No need for timers (which IME, esp if they are hozelock, fail), not over watering when the weather cool/damp. http://www.twowests.co.uk/category/p...umat-watering- systems Many thanks Chris. I have looked at it briefly and I like the idea of water being supplied according to need, rather than whether the basket needs it or notthrough a timer. It looks to be the way to go Malcolm |
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On 17/11/2015 16:18, Malcolm Race wrote:
Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? Yes. It works well enough. How far you can run the thin pipe and ge a decnt flow rate I don't know. Their timer valve worked well for me. I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. You may need to arrange the baskets so that the one needing least water is at the far end. I was using pumped rainwater so the main problem I had was mosquito larvae jamming the drip jets. Ulimately solve by a pair of old ladies tights over the pump inlet. Mains water should be OK. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts Buy enough to be able to do everything you want. Chances are they will change the dimensions so as to obsolete all existing installations -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 01/12/2015 12:03, Martin Brown wrote:
On 17/11/2015 16:18, Malcolm Race wrote: Anyone with experience of the Hozelock system? Yes. It works well enough. How far you can run the thin pipe and ge a decnt flow rate I don't know. Their timer valve worked well for me. I have an outside tap at the back of the house and 3 half baskets at the front. To avoid a run of the larger (13mm?) pipe I would like to do most of the run in the narrower pipe which, although it is black, I could hide more easily against the join between the white soffit and the brick wall. You may need to arrange the baskets so that the one needing least water is at the far end. I was using pumped rainwater so the main problem I had was mosquito larvae jamming the drip jets. Ulimately solve by a pair of old ladies tights over the pump inlet. Mains water should be OK. I am havig problems locating the appropriate kits in garden centres as apparently Hozelock are revising their product range and the garden centres only have what is left of the old range. Timing is important as this is meant to be a Christmas present from my daughter. Any thoughts Buy enough to be able to do everything you want. Chances are they will change the dimensions so as to obsolete all existing installations Many thanks for the reply. I decided that I would go for the Tropf Blumat system recommended earlieras it does not rely on a timer but uses a sensor to turn on the water at each point. Kit has been ordered, I will report back when I have installed it Malcolm |
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Malcolm Race wrote:
I decided that I would go for the Tropf Blumat system recommended earlieras it does not rely on a timer but uses a sensor to turn on the water at each point. Do you really need a separate sensor at each watering point? Can one sensor not deal with several drips? -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin |
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In message , Timothy Murphy
writes Malcolm Race wrote: I decided that I would go for the Tropf Blumat system recommended earlieras it does not rely on a timer but uses a sensor to turn on the water at each point. Do you really need a separate sensor at each watering point? Can one sensor not deal with several drips? Yes, each probe can feed more than one dripper - not sure how many, how far, off hand. However for hanging baskets you probably need one per basket. You might well have more than one dripper in one basket though to to give even watering. -- Chris French |
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I've two systems.
A leaky hose system which waters the full run of the main border from the side of the patio next to the house, right to the back left hand corner of the garden and across the rear bed up to the side of our tea-house. The run is split into three, controlled by two hozelock valves, so I can water any combination or all of the three sections. Then I've a sprinkler system for the lawn. I bought the heads on e-Bay for about £7 each. As it's only on mains pressure, I've only two heads. They cope with the whole lawn. The pipework is speed-fit and an old central heating boiler valve. Total cost around £50. It was easy to install. Just "V" shape wedges cut out of the lawn to intall the pipework about 6" below the lawn, then replaced, the scar disappeared within a couple of weeks. It was important to get the supply equidistant between the two heads, to balance the pressure. This was the "dry run," (well..wet run) to see if it would work! The pipe was buried under the path. You can the supply coming across the path to the furthest head but then follows its supply pipe down to a point midway between the two heads where it is joined to the two supplies by a tee-joint. It only took half a day to install including digging up the York Stone path and re-cementing it to get the pipe under it. http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...psmzr6t981.jpg This it working. The supply comes from the feed from the house to the garage. You can adjust the heads to have a blanked out quadrant from about 10 degrres. I've one that size where I turn it on so I don't get wet. a 90 degree blanked off quadrant, stops the tea-house getting watered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIx72a66TfY
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