Sacha wrote in message ...

Then may I politely suggest to you that this is a genuinely friendly
and
informative group, as I've found to my own benefit. But posting in
reply to
others suggesting there is some form of elitism here and that people
who use
Latin names are somehow showing off, isn't going to help your start on
the
group.
Please think of this - using Latin names for plants makes it easier for
all
of us to help each other because it's a universal language. Whatever a
plant is called in Northumbria, it might not be called here in Devon.
For
example, the weed (for which I do not know the Latin name) which I know
as
goosegrass, is known to others as cleavers and/or stickie willie!
Using
Latin names isn't some form of snobbery or exclusion process, it's more
helpful in the long term. That said, you don't have to know them to
post
here but you might find that you'll start to learn them and that by
doing
so, you'll expand what you came here for - gardening knowledge.
Relax. Most of us really do like to help where we can.
--
We also have to realise that. being the internet, we are read by people
from all over the world, and they may have the same common names for
plants as us, but those names may refer to totally different plants. We
do point out to people posting from other countries that our knowledge
is usually confined to the UK as we are a UK group, but we do get
regular posters from Sweden, Canada and other countries. The Latin names
are common throughput the world, and can therefore be our only means of
letting people know just what plant we are talking about.
Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:30:42 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Victoria Clare contains these words:


It's horrible if Anne thinks she can't pile in and talk about something
just because she doesn't know much about it.

It would be if it were true, but it's perfectly clear from her
performance in this thread that Anne has absolutely no such inhibitions
or modest qualms. Her main contribution to the group seems to be sniping
at the regulars, running the group down in public to newbies; and
painting herself as the innocent victim of a secret gang.

Reminds me of Mike Crowe in drag.

Perhaps Anne is Mike Crowe in drag? Hello Sailor!
--
Martin

In article , anne
writes

I hang around because you are infact a very knowledgeable bunch. However,
that doesn't make you poilte, approachable or friendly which is a shame.

Have just read this post of yours.

Are you *really* implying that everyone on this group, apart from
yourself of course, is impolite, unapproachable and unfriendly?

If so, I think you must have very different ideas of what is friendly,
approachable and polite from what most people in this group have.

friendly, polite smile Perhaps I may suggest you would be better off
in a group other than this one /friendly, polite smile!!!!!!!!!

Or perhaps your post was, in fact, just a troll??????????
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

In article , Mike Lyle
writes
I'm really a
shapely natural-blonde up-and-coming porn starlet from County Mayo who
gets all her gardening info out of the Encyclopedia Britannica: real
gardening would wreck my nails, darling! I pretend to be this bloke so
the other girls will never find out.

Many a true word . . . . . . . . )))))))))))))
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

In article m,
Malcolm writes

snip a whole screen of stuff

You sound like a big girls tit anyway, so in this case you are quite
believable.

Malcolm, you should snip and not be so unfriendly!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

Reminds me of Mike Crowe in drag.

Perhaps Anne is Mike Crowe in drag? Hello Sailor!
--
Martin

?

Janet Baraclough wrote in message
...
The message
from Victoria Clare contains these words:


It's horrible if Anne thinks she can't pile in and talk about something
just because she doesn't know much about it.

It would be if it were true, but it's perfectly clear from her
performance in this thread that Anne has absolutely no such inhibitions
or modest qualms. Her main contribution to the group seems to be sniping
at the regulars, running the group down in public to newbies; and
painting herself as the innocent victim of a secret gang.

Reminds me of Mike Crowe in drag.

Janet.


!! I'm almost speachless but not quite. Firstly, I certainly am not Mike
Crowe in drag (whoever he is) !! I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

As far as "running the group down in public to newbies" goes, I'm a newbie
myself and I did feel sorry for Culturalenigma (the AT fan if you've
forgotten already). At times, I have felt the same as she obviously did and
that's why I sent my post - it's as simple as that. If you read it again you
might understand what was on my mind. I do think the "top posting" subject
goes a bit far at times and so I mentioned this aswell and why shouldn't I?
You obviously speak your mind Janet, so why shouldn't I be allowed to?

The post I sent with the latin names was supposed to be a joke - trying to
chill out. Other posts have been dumb questions, I do apologise Janet. And a
handful of posts have been trying to give a little bit of advise if I feel I
can.

If I became really offensive to you (as offensive as you have just been to
me) I suppose I will be labeled a troll, so I can't really win here can I?
Therefore, I'll leave it at this.

Kay Easton wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes



My Convallaria majalis

That's strange - mine are always OK. Well, I suppose they may get holes
in the leaves - I never really look - but the flower heads are always
untouched, and if asked, they're one of the things I would have said
were OK against slugs. Interesting that your experience is different.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm


The leaves were shredded and the flowers never materialised :-(

martin wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:30:42 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Victoria Clare contains these words:


It's horrible if Anne thinks she can't pile in and talk about something
just because she doesn't know much about it.

It would be if it were true, but it's perfectly clear from her
performance in this thread that Anne has absolutely no such inhibitions
or modest qualms. Her main contribution to the group seems to be sniping
at the regulars, running the group down in public to newbies; and
painting herself as the innocent victim of a secret gang.

Reminds me of Mike Crowe in drag.

Perhaps Anne is Mike Crowe in drag? Hello Sailor!
--
Martin

Don't you start Martin!

Jane Ransom wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes

I hang around because you are infact a very knowledgeable bunch. However,
that doesn't make you poilte, approachable or friendly which is a shame.

Have just read this post of yours.

Are you *really* implying that everyone on this group, apart from
yourself of course, is impolite, unapproachable and unfriendly?

If so, I think you must have very different ideas of what is friendly,
approachable and polite from what most people in this group have.

friendly, polite smile Perhaps I may suggest you would be better off
in a group other than this one /friendly, polite smile!!!!!!!!!

Or perhaps your post was, in fact, just a troll??????????
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com


No, not all Jane and I'm certainly not about to name anyone. Great, just
because I disagree with something I become a troll? Nice logic Jane.

In article , anne
writes
I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

How can you be sure Mike Crowe *is* a fella????

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

Jane Ransom wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes
I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

How can you be sure Mike Crowe *is* a fella????

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com



Erm... Mike, Michael? This is a bloke's name isn't it?

Subject: Articles on my site
From: "anne"
Date: 11/09/2003 15:51 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:


Jane Ransom wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes
I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

How can you be sure Mike Crowe *is* a fella????




Erm... Mike, Michael? This is a bloke's name isn't it?

Could be short for Michaela, as in michaela strachan.

Of course I could just be incredibly bored and just idly stirring...
****************************
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
Q: how many witches does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: depends on what you want it changed into!

"anne" wrote in message
...

Jane Ransom wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes
I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

How can you be sure Mike Crowe *is* a fella????

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com



Erm... Mike, Michael? This is a bloke's name isn't it?



Yes Anne, Mike is a bloke's name and I am proud to say I am Mike Crowe and
am very definitely male and well respected to boot by many in the ex armed
services association world. Get in touch with the Ministry of Defence on a
Royal Navy or Royal Air Force related matter on 'those who have served' and
you will more than likely be referred to me. And should you hapen to be in
Paris and make an enquiry at the British Embassy, they they too will refer
you to me.

Not much liked by those who feel that they 'Rule urg' such as barraclough
who is only able to shower insults on anyone who does not fit the 'nice and
friendy' mould as you have found out.

You are in possibly the 3rd most friendly newsgroup which I visit,
uk.people.ex-forces and uk.people.silversurfers being the fore runners in
the 'come and visit us, and welcome' stakes.

As no doubt you will have discovered, there is a terrific amount of
knowledge in this newsgroup and not many questions go unanswered.

As the snipers will now come back and tell you I am not a gardener, but my
wife Joan is and we have had great fun as a result of the cammaraderie and
interchange on this newsgroup. For example sacha offered some seeds earlier
in the year from a 'garden near her'. I sent our snail mail address and
received a packet. A packet of unknowns, (named some sacha but I think Joan
is still mystyfied with some, but emailing Iris and comparing notes!)

Another plus was the information we were able to receive from the newsgroup
about Great Dixter and Christopher Lloyd House and gardens, which as a
result, Joan was able to go there and meet Christopher. He took her in the
potting shed!!!!!! (To sign a book of his and wish her a Happy Birthday)

So anne 99% friendly and helpful. Just beware of the Rockweilers and
'owners' of the newsgroup. Try your killfile on those you don't like and are
anti you!!

To the 'owners'.
Don't bother to fire back at me, it will of course prove the point I have
made I know, but I won't be here to read it :-)) I am just about to leave
for a cruise in the Adriatic :-))

Postcards from Joan and Mike will be sent to the newsgroup, but as always
with postcards from holidays abroad, we will return before they arrive :-(

"anne" wrote in message
...

Jane Ransom wrote in message
...
In article , anne
writes
I feel a little bit offended to say the
least that you think I'm a fella!

How can you be sure Mike Crowe *is* a fella????

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com



Erm... Mike, Michael? This is a bloke's name isn't it?

A late sister-in-law of mine was christened Alfons.
I had an aunt who was christened Rudolphina. My grandfather was desperate
to have his name propagated, but between him and my grandmother they
succeeded only in producing 6 daughters.

Franz

Franz