I know this shouldn't be an issue at this time of year, but plants in
my conservatory are covered in greenfly:
- Some perennial chilli peppers
- A hibiscus
- Some aubergines from the greenhouse
that I'm trying to overwinter inside
- Some Culantro
(Caribbean version of coriander, but very different)

I had tried "gentle" sprays (since I want to eat some of the produce)
but they did no good and the plants were getting absolutely covered
with greenfly

Then I saw "Derris" at http://www.organiccatalog.co.uk. I have tried
one blast of this so far, and the bugs are dropping (like flies...).
However, even this product warns that it cant help if the aphids are a
resistant strain.

If you have a similar problem, you could do worse than try it.

Colin
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: I know this shouldn't be an issue at this time of year, but plants in
: my conservatory are covered in greenfly:
: - Some perennial chilli peppers
: - A hibiscus
: - Some aubergines from the greenhouse
: that I'm trying to overwinter inside
: - Some Culantro
: (Caribbean version of coriander, but very different)
:
: I had tried "gentle" sprays (since I want to eat some of the produce)
: but they did no good and the plants were getting absolutely covered
: with greenfly
:
: Then I saw "Derris" at http://www.organiccatalog.co.uk. I have tried
: one blast of this so far, and the bugs are dropping (like flies...).
: However, even this product warns that it cant help if the aphids are a
: resistant strain.
:
: If you have a similar problem, you could do worse than try it.
:
: Colin
: -----
: (Sorry - no direct email. Please reply via the newsgroup)

I know Derris is suggested for organic growers but it is more deadly than some of the chemicals you can use and is not selective, i.e. it kills all insects, friends and foes. I wouldn't use it

Colin Malsingh wrote:
I know this shouldn't be an issue at this time of year, but plants in
my conservatory are covered in greenfly:
- Some perennial chilli peppers
- A hibiscus
- Some aubergines from the greenhouse
that I'm trying to overwinter inside
- Some Culantro
(Caribbean version of coriander, but very different)

I had tried "gentle" sprays (since I want to eat some of the produce)
but they did no good and the plants were getting absolutely covered
with greenfly

Then I saw "Derris" at http://www.organiccatalog.co.uk. I have tried
one blast of this so far, and the bugs are dropping (like flies...).
However, even this product warns that it cant help if the aphids are a
resistant strain.

If you have a similar problem, you could do worse than try it.

Colin
-----
(Sorry - no direct email. Please reply via the newsgroup)

I always use a weak solution of washing up liquid, seems to do the trick!
Maybe the aphids on my plants are weaklings!

Jason

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This looks to me to be blatant advertising so I am not quoting any of it.
A can of household Fly Spray with Pymetheron is very good for spot treating the odd plant.

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:17:56 +0000, Colin Malsingh
wrote:

I know this shouldn't be an issue at this time of year, but plants in
my conservatory are covered in greenfly:
- Some perennial chilli peppers
- A hibiscus
- Some aubergines from the greenhouse
that I'm trying to overwinter inside
- Some Culantro
(Caribbean version of coriander, but very different)

I had tried "gentle" sprays (since I want to eat some of the produce)
but they did no good and the plants were getting absolutely covered
with greenfly

Then I saw "Derris" at http://www.organiccatalog.co.uk. I have tried
one blast of this so far, and the bugs are dropping (like flies...).
However, even this product warns that it cant help if the aphids are a
resistant strain.

If you have a similar problem, you could do worse than try it.

Doesn't sound like you have that many plants on the go at the moment -
wouldn't it have been just as effective to get busy with your finger
and thumb?

Regards,



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http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

In article , Robert the_devils_advo
writes
*
I know Derris is suggested for organic growers but it is more
deadly than some of the chemicals you can use and is not selective,
i.e. it kills all insects, friends and foes. I wouldn't use it

You are right not to use Derris for the reasons you quote.
It is not 'suggested' for use in organic systems.
My way of dealing with greenfly and other aphids is to use a foliar
application of nettle infusion. There's an urg FAQ on that method at:
http://www.nugget.demon.co.uk/MetaFAQ/nettle.html
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

In article , David Hill david@abacusn
urseries.freeserve.co.uk writes
This looks to me to be*blatant advertising

Since it's the only posting he has made - I agree!!!!!!!!!

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

My three pronged attack on greenfly :
1) Rub them into another dimension with finger and thumb
2a) Big tough shrubby plants can be hosed down with a strong jet of water
2b) Smaller plants can be tipped upside down and held under the tap to wash the
beasties of (put the pot in a tightly sealed plastic bag to keep the soil in
place)
3) Spray with a solution of water / washingup liquid / methelated spirits

Jenny

In article ,
(JennyC) wrote:

3) Spray with a solution of water / washingup liquid / methelated
spirits

Organically produced of course? :-)

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

"Steve Harris" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(JennyC) wrote:

3) Spray with a solution of water / washingup liquid / methelated
spirits

Organically produced of course? :-)
Steve Harris

Greenfly usually are :~)
Jenny

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:35:03 +0100, "JennyC" wrote:


"Steve Harris" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(JennyC) wrote:

3) Spray with a solution of water / washingup liquid / methelated
spirits

Organically produced of course? :-)
Steve Harris

Greenfly usually are :~)

A truly green solution :-)
--
Martin

Thanks for the warning about Derris. Since I have tried several times
and failed with Pyrethium-based sprays, I guess I should have taken
note when my aphid infestation was wiped out with a single spray of
Derris.

I am not specifically looking for an organic treatment (though the
warnings of other posters are noted) mainly something that worked. In
the past, putting several basil plants around affected plants did the
trick, but even these got infested this time.


David Hill writes
This looks to me to be*blatant advertising

Jane Ransom writes
Since it's the only posting he has made - I agree!!!!!!!!!

Sorry guy's, but it isn't advertising. I garden on a personal basis
and have no connection with the product, or the supplier. I was just
pleased to find something that works. If you already have a solution,
that's great.

Have I posted before? Yes, plenty of times earlier in the year, though
this group seems pretty quiet at the moment.

Colin
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If I am wrong I apologise, but how often have we seen this sort of posting
"I have this problem and have finally found the perfect solution from
www.xxxacmeinc.com who have this fab. product "
Then there is no valid personal address to reply to, or sometimes they don't
think and their reply address is the same as the company they recommend.

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Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk
***2004 catalogue now available***

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:33:06 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

If I am wrong I apologise, but how often have we seen this sort of posting
"I have this problem and have finally found the perfect solution from
www.xxxacmeinc.com who have this fab. product "
Then there is no valid personal address to reply to, or sometimes they don't
think and their reply address is the same as the company they recommend.

Best bet is to do a search on Google groups using the author's name or
'email' address.

In Colin's case about 45 posts come up - which is rather more than
"the only posting he has made".

Someone owes someone a pint!

Regards,



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www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:33:06 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

If I am wrong I apologise, but how often have we seen this sort of posting
"I have this problem and have finally found the perfect solution from
www.xxxacmeinc.com who have this fab. product "
Then there is no valid personal address to reply to, or sometimes they don't
think and their reply address is the same as the company they recommend.

Best bet is to do a search on Google groups using the author's name or
'email' address.

In Colin's case about 45 posts come up - which is rather more than
"the only posting he has made".

Someone owes someone a pint!

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk