Subject: Slightly different approach to deterring foxes?
From: Dr Jack Hammer
Date: 28/02/2004 13:04 GMT Standard Time
Message-id:

No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
"The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even
write a crime report about them."
Aubrey on remaining at liberty
www.somethingpositive.net

In message , Sharon
writes

No doubt you would find that unacceptable too? perhaps you should move
to a 20th floor apartment and just have a window box, with netting to
stop the pigeons shitting in it!

sigh....some people just don't deserve a life.



I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the need for a response like this.
Some people just don't deserve a life? What is that supposed to mean?

You haven't even bothered to find out in what way foxes are making life
miserable for us. Or does that not matter at all?

Anyway, thank you for taking the time to provide that helpful response.

Sharon

You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Robert

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:33:58 +0000, Robert wrote:

In message , Sharon
writes

No doubt you would find that unacceptable too? perhaps you should move
to a 20th floor apartment and just have a window box, with netting to
stop the pigeons shitting in it!

sigh....some people just don't deserve a life.



I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the need for a response like this.
Some people just don't deserve a life? What is that supposed to mean?

You haven't even bothered to find out in what way foxes are making life
miserable for us. Or does that not matter at all?

Anyway, thank you for taking the time to provide that helpful response.

Sharon

You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

How original, for a troll. Quite cute really to see a troll, troll a
troll and think they are doing us a favour. Pete who?

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?

Er, they are foxes.













**********************************************




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Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:33:58 +0000, Robert wrote:

In message , Sharon
writes

No doubt you would find that unacceptable too? perhaps you should move
to a 20th floor apartment and just have a window box, with netting to
stop the pigeons shitting in it!

sigh....some people just don't deserve a life.



I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the need for a response like this.
Some people just don't deserve a life? What is that supposed to mean?

You haven't even bothered to find out in what way foxes are making life
miserable for us. Or does that not matter at all?

Anyway, thank you for taking the time to provide that helpful response.

Sharon

You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

How original, for a troll. Quite cute really to see a troll, troll a
troll and think they are doing us a favour. Pete who?

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?

Er, they are foxes.













**********************************************




'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
they're having no effect.
5) Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
how to avoid them.
6) Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
7) Eat vast quantities of pies.
8) Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
9) Help a demon.local poster with their email while
secretly reading it.
10) Pretend you're a hard ******* when in fact you're
as bent as a roundabout.
11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
12) Die of old age
13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
will have a penis the girls can see.

---------------------------------------

"If you would'nt talk to them in a bar, don't *uckin' vote for them"

"Australia was not *discovered* it was invaded"
The Big Yin.

Need a fake diploma for fun? contact my collegues Malcolm Ogilvie
or Michael Saunby who both bought one and got one free, only $15 each,
have as many as you like www.fakediplomas.com

"Robert" wrote in message
...
In message , Sharon
writes



You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Thank you for confirming that suspicion. I've searched newsgroups and found
that pretty well every posting from this person is in much the same vein.

What problems are the foxes causing? Where should I start? We can't use
blood, fish and bone to plant perennials, trees, etc, because the foxes
smell it and dig the plants out of the ground to get at it. They dig holes
not just to bury food but seemingly for the pure joy of it. There is fox
shit everywhere. The bark chip paths we laid around a new vegetable path
are dug up every night. They dig around the entire perimeter and at spots
where the membrane overlaps. Essentially, we "re-lay" most of these paths
every morning. A temporary reed screen around new hedging has been pretty
well demolished because one entry point through it was not enough for them.
The climbers we want to grow on the wall beside the bedroom window are
continually pulled off their support because that is one of their favoured
spots for coming into the garden. They collect various items from
neighbouring gardens (mostly but not exclusively stuffed toys) and bring
them into our garden. And take stuff from our garden. For example, I left
my favourite leather gloves just inside our patio doors when I came in to
take a telephone call. A few minutes later, I saw the fox running across
the garden with my gloves in its mouth. It had actually come inside the
house to take them. My husband left a pair of gloves outside for a short
time; months later, we dug one of them up in a different part of the garden.
Any rubbish that is not in a covered bin is strewn across the front yard in
the morning. This is a particular problem for us because the top floor flat
is rented, and every time the tenants change it takes a while for them to
understand what will happen if they just leave a bag standing beside the
bins. We have permanent paths across our lawn; efforts to divert them to
other routes have been unsuccessful. I could go on.

Then there is the question of whether other wildlife is being deterred. I
can't prove the foxes are the reason for the decline in bird numbers. We
still get lots of tits, but ground-feeding birds are rarely seen in our
garden anymore.

Finally, they make a lot of noise at night. I work particularly odd and
long hours, and sleep is precious. I would have thought by now I would be
desensitised to their screaming, but I'm not.

Despite what "Dr. Hammer" says about territories, the number of foxes is
increasing.

"Robert" wrote in message
...
In message , Sharon
writes



You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Thank you for confirming that suspicion. I've searched newsgroups and found
that pretty well every posting from this person is in much the same vein.

What problems are the foxes causing? Where should I start? We can't use
blood, fish and bone to plant perennials, trees, etc, because the foxes
smell it and dig the plants out of the ground to get at it. They dig holes
not just to bury food but seemingly for the pure joy of it. There is fox
shit everywhere. The bark chip paths we laid around a new vegetable path
are dug up every night. They dig around the entire perimeter and at spots
where the membrane overlaps. Essentially, we "re-lay" most of these paths
every morning. A temporary reed screen around new hedging has been pretty
well demolished because one entry point through it was not enough for them.
The climbers we want to grow on the wall beside the bedroom window are
continually pulled off their support because that is one of their favoured
spots for coming into the garden. They collect various items from
neighbouring gardens (mostly but not exclusively stuffed toys) and bring
them into our garden. And take stuff from our garden. For example, I left
my favourite leather gloves just inside our patio doors when I came in to
take a telephone call. A few minutes later, I saw the fox running across
the garden with my gloves in its mouth. It had actually come inside the
house to take them. My husband left a pair of gloves outside for a short
time; months later, we dug one of them up in a different part of the garden.
Any rubbish that is not in a covered bin is strewn across the front yard in
the morning. This is a particular problem for us because the top floor flat
is rented, and every time the tenants change it takes a while for them to
understand what will happen if they just leave a bag standing beside the
bins. We have permanent paths across our lawn; efforts to divert them to
other routes have been unsuccessful. I could go on.

Then there is the question of whether other wildlife is being deterred. I
can't prove the foxes are the reason for the decline in bird numbers. We
still get lots of tits, but ground-feeding birds are rarely seen in our
garden anymore.

Finally, they make a lot of noise at night. I work particularly odd and
long hours, and sleep is precious. I would have thought by now I would be
desensitised to their screaming, but I'm not.

Despite what "Dr. Hammer" says about territories, the number of foxes is
increasing.

"Robert" wrote in message
...
In message , Sharon
writes



You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Thank you for confirming that suspicion. I've searched newsgroups and found
that pretty well every posting from this person is in much the same vein.

What problems are the foxes causing? Where should I start? We can't use
blood, fish and bone to plant perennials, trees, etc, because the foxes
smell it and dig the plants out of the ground to get at it. They dig holes
not just to bury food but seemingly for the pure joy of it. There is fox
shit everywhere. The bark chip paths we laid around a new vegetable path
are dug up every night. They dig around the entire perimeter and at spots
where the membrane overlaps. Essentially, we "re-lay" most of these paths
every morning. A temporary reed screen around new hedging has been pretty
well demolished because one entry point through it was not enough for them.
The climbers we want to grow on the wall beside the bedroom window are
continually pulled off their support because that is one of their favoured
spots for coming into the garden. They collect various items from
neighbouring gardens (mostly but not exclusively stuffed toys) and bring
them into our garden. And take stuff from our garden. For example, I left
my favourite leather gloves just inside our patio doors when I came in to
take a telephone call. A few minutes later, I saw the fox running across
the garden with my gloves in its mouth. It had actually come inside the
house to take them. My husband left a pair of gloves outside for a short
time; months later, we dug one of them up in a different part of the garden.
Any rubbish that is not in a covered bin is strewn across the front yard in
the morning. This is a particular problem for us because the top floor flat
is rented, and every time the tenants change it takes a while for them to
understand what will happen if they just leave a bag standing beside the
bins. We have permanent paths across our lawn; efforts to divert them to
other routes have been unsuccessful. I could go on.

Then there is the question of whether other wildlife is being deterred. I
can't prove the foxes are the reason for the decline in bird numbers. We
still get lots of tits, but ground-feeding birds are rarely seen in our
garden anymore.

Finally, they make a lot of noise at night. I work particularly odd and
long hours, and sleep is precious. I would have thought by now I would be
desensitised to their screaming, but I'm not.

Despite what "Dr. Hammer" says about territories, the number of foxes is
increasing.

"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my
neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
It pains me to reply to a post from "Pete the Prat", even one removed,
but.....

We have had a noise problem with a neighbours dog for a long while. Whenever
they go out they put the dog in the garden, it has a bed in the garage, but
within 30 mins it starts barking and doesn't stop until they come back.
Often 7pm to 4 am at weekends! Of course the owners never hear it.
Have mentioned the problem to the owners which only stopped it for a few
months, all the other neighbours mention it to me but won't say anything to
the owners.
Finally got the idea to try training the poor thing myself, got a water
pistol, and it gets a shower of water if it barks. It's a bit cheaper than
the ultra-sonic anti-barking trainers at about £100.
So far it seems to be having the right effect. Don't get the continuous
barking we used to.

--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:10:09 +0000 (UTC), "Sharon"
wrote:


"Robert" wrote in message
...
In message , Sharon
writes



You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Thank you for confirming that suspicion. I've searched newsgroups and found
that pretty well every posting from this person is in much the same vein.

"pretty well"! which ones were not?

What problems are the foxes causing? Where should I start? We can't use
blood, fish and bone to plant perennials, trees, etc, because the foxes
smell it and dig the plants out of the ground to get at it.

You don't need to use it.

They dig holes
not just to bury food but seemingly for the pure joy of it. There is fox
shit everywhere.

Hmm, shame the birds are not such good shots in your area.

The bark chip paths we laid around a new vegetable path
are dug up every night.

Bark chips=fat, lazy slobs who want a garden but cannot be arsed to
work for it and so ugly too.

Why do you think bark chips look better then fox shit? fox shit
certainly degrades quicker..

They dig around the entire perimeter and at spots
where the membrane overlaps. Essentially, we "re-lay" most of these paths
every morning. A temporary reed screen around new hedging has been pretty
well demolished because one entry point through it was not enough for them.
The climbers we want to grow on the wall beside the bedroom window are
continually pulled off their support because that is one of their favoured
spots for coming into the garden. They collect various items from
neighbouring gardens (mostly but not exclusively stuffed toys) and bring
them into our garden. And take stuff from our garden. For example, I left
my favourite leather gloves just inside our patio doors when I came in to
take a telephone call. A few minutes later, I saw the fox running across
the garden with my gloves in its mouth. It had actually come inside the
house to take them. My husband left a pair of gloves outside for a short
time; months later, we dug one of them up in a different part of the garden.
Any rubbish that is not in a covered bin is strewn across the front yard in
the morning. This is a particular problem for us because the top floor flat
is rented, and every time the tenants change it takes a while for them to
understand what will happen if they just leave a bag standing beside the
bins. We have permanent paths across our lawn; efforts to divert them to
other routes have been unsuccessful. I could go on.

Please don't. I have heard bullshit in my time but you take the
biscuit, my original estimate of you was correct, you're a loser.
Move.

Then there is the question of whether other wildlife is being deterred. I
can't prove the foxes are the reason for the decline in bird numbers. We
still get lots of tits, but ground-feeding birds are rarely seen in our
garden anymore.

Crapo.

Finally, they make a lot of noise at night. I work particularly odd and
long hours, and sleep is precious. I would have thought by now I would be
desensitised to their screaming, but I'm not.

Imagine how they must be suffering listening to your snoring! I'm
surprised you can hear anything with your fingers stuck in your ears
all the time!

Foxes only make noises during breeding times (now) don't worry, it
doesnt last long and is not incessant despite your worst fears.

Despite what "Dr. Hammer" says about territories, the number of foxes is
increasing.

Not in your garden they are not, you're lying.













**********************************************




'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
they're having no effect.
5) Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
how to avoid them.
6) Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
7) Eat vast quantities of pies.
8) Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
9) Help a demon.local poster with their email while
secretly reading it.
10) Pretend you're a hard ******* when in fact you're
as bent as a roundabout.
11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
12) Die of old age
13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
will have a penis the girls can see.

---------------------------------------

"If you would'nt talk to them in a bar, don't *uckin' vote for them"

"Australia was not *discovered* it was invaded"
The Big Yin.

Need a fake diploma for fun? contact my collegues Malcolm Ogilvie
or Michael Saunby who both bought one and got one free, only $15 each,
have as many as you like www.fakediplomas.com

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:20:20 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my
neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
It pains me to reply to a post from "Pete the Prat", even one removed,
but.....

We have had a noise problem with a neighbours dog for a long while. Whenever
they go out they put the dog in the garden, it has a bed in the garage, but
within 30 mins it starts barking and doesn't stop until they come back.
Often 7pm to 4 am at weekends! Of course the owners never hear it.
Have mentioned the problem to the owners which only stopped it for a few
months, all the other neighbours mention it to me but won't say anything to
the owners.

Are they all yellow and lacking in communication skills like you? give
me their address and I'll have a word.

Finally got the idea to try training the poor thing myself, got a water
pistol, and it gets a shower of water if it barks. It's a bit cheaper than
the ultra-sonic anti-barking trainers at about £100.
So far it seems to be having the right effect. Don't get the continuous
barking we used to.

Think yourself lucky I don't catch you doing it to my dog, you'd have
trouble eating bananas for a while.

Go and talk to the neighbour you yellow ****, he wont **** on you,
probably!















**********************************************




'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
they're having no effect.
5) Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
how to avoid them.
6) Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
7) Eat vast quantities of pies.
8) Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
9) Help a demon.local poster with their email while
secretly reading it.
10) Pretend you're a hard ******* when in fact you're
as bent as a roundabout.
11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
12) Die of old age
13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
will have a penis the girls can see.

---------------------------------------

"If you would'nt talk to them in a bar, don't *uckin' vote for them"

"Australia was not *discovered* it was invaded"
The Big Yin.

Need a fake diploma for fun? contact my collegues Malcolm Ogilvie
or Michael Saunby who both bought one and got one free, only $15 each,
have as many as you like www.fakediplomas.com

"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my
neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
It pains me to reply to a post from "Pete the Prat", even one removed,
but.....

We have had a noise problem with a neighbours dog for a long while. Whenever
they go out they put the dog in the garden, it has a bed in the garage, but
within 30 mins it starts barking and doesn't stop until they come back.
Often 7pm to 4 am at weekends! Of course the owners never hear it.
Have mentioned the problem to the owners which only stopped it for a few
months, all the other neighbours mention it to me but won't say anything to
the owners.
Finally got the idea to try training the poor thing myself, got a water
pistol, and it gets a shower of water if it barks. It's a bit cheaper than
the ultra-sonic anti-barking trainers at about £100.
So far it seems to be having the right effect. Don't get the continuous
barking we used to.

--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:10:09 +0000 (UTC), "Sharon"
wrote:


"Robert" wrote in message
...
In message , Sharon
writes



You were responding to one of Basildon Pete's sockpuppets (he is just a
troll)

As a matter of interest what problems are the foxes causing?
--
Thank you for confirming that suspicion. I've searched newsgroups and found
that pretty well every posting from this person is in much the same vein.

"pretty well"! which ones were not?

What problems are the foxes causing? Where should I start? We can't use
blood, fish and bone to plant perennials, trees, etc, because the foxes
smell it and dig the plants out of the ground to get at it.

You don't need to use it.

They dig holes
not just to bury food but seemingly for the pure joy of it. There is fox
shit everywhere.

Hmm, shame the birds are not such good shots in your area.

The bark chip paths we laid around a new vegetable path
are dug up every night.

Bark chips=fat, lazy slobs who want a garden but cannot be arsed to
work for it and so ugly too.

Why do you think bark chips look better then fox shit? fox shit
certainly degrades quicker..

They dig around the entire perimeter and at spots
where the membrane overlaps. Essentially, we "re-lay" most of these paths
every morning. A temporary reed screen around new hedging has been pretty
well demolished because one entry point through it was not enough for them.
The climbers we want to grow on the wall beside the bedroom window are
continually pulled off their support because that is one of their favoured
spots for coming into the garden. They collect various items from
neighbouring gardens (mostly but not exclusively stuffed toys) and bring
them into our garden. And take stuff from our garden. For example, I left
my favourite leather gloves just inside our patio doors when I came in to
take a telephone call. A few minutes later, I saw the fox running across
the garden with my gloves in its mouth. It had actually come inside the
house to take them. My husband left a pair of gloves outside for a short
time; months later, we dug one of them up in a different part of the garden.
Any rubbish that is not in a covered bin is strewn across the front yard in
the morning. This is a particular problem for us because the top floor flat
is rented, and every time the tenants change it takes a while for them to
understand what will happen if they just leave a bag standing beside the
bins. We have permanent paths across our lawn; efforts to divert them to
other routes have been unsuccessful. I could go on.

Please don't. I have heard bullshit in my time but you take the
biscuit, my original estimate of you was correct, you're a loser.
Move.

Then there is the question of whether other wildlife is being deterred. I
can't prove the foxes are the reason for the decline in bird numbers. We
still get lots of tits, but ground-feeding birds are rarely seen in our
garden anymore.

Crapo.

Finally, they make a lot of noise at night. I work particularly odd and
long hours, and sleep is precious. I would have thought by now I would be
desensitised to their screaming, but I'm not.

Imagine how they must be suffering listening to your snoring! I'm
surprised you can hear anything with your fingers stuck in your ears
all the time!

Foxes only make noises during breeding times (now) don't worry, it
doesnt last long and is not incessant despite your worst fears.

Despite what "Dr. Hammer" says about territories, the number of foxes is
increasing.

Not in your garden they are not, you're lying.













**********************************************




'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
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Subject: Slightly different approach to deterring foxes?
From: "Bob Hobden"
Date: 28/02/2004 14:20 GMT Standard Time
Message-id:


"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my
neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
It pains me to reply to a post from "Pete the Prat", even one removed,
but.....

We have had a noise problem with a neighbours dog for a long while. Whenever
they go out they put the dog in the garden, it has a bed in the garage, but
within 30 mins it starts barking and doesn't stop until they come back.
Often 7pm to 4 am at weekends! Of course the owners never hear it.
Have mentioned the problem to the owners which only stopped it for a few
months, all the other neighbours mention it to me but won't say anything to
the owners.
Finally got the idea to try training the poor thing myself, got a water
pistol, and it gets a shower of water if it barks. It's a bit cheaper than
the ultra-sonic anti-barking trainers at about £100.
So far it seems to be having the right effect. Don't get the continuous
barking we used to.

It's not so much the noise level that gets me as it is the sound of an animal
in distress. It's heart breaking to have to listen to the poor thing. Of
course the noise level is a valid point and it probably does annoy some people.
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"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
No "pets" should be left alone for long periods, if you cannot "look
after" your pets properly, don't have them.

This is pretty much the only point I will agree on here. One of my
neighbours
has a dog and is out all the time. The poor thing is always howling and
whining when it's left alone. Dogs are social animals and need company.
--
It pains me to reply to a post from "Pete the Prat", even one removed,
but.....

We have had a noise problem with a neighbours dog for a long while. Whenever
they go out they put the dog in the garden, it has a bed in the garage, but
within 30 mins it starts barking and doesn't stop until they come back.
Often 7pm to 4 am at weekends! Of course the owners never hear it.
Have mentioned the problem to the owners which only stopped it for a few
months, all the other neighbours mention it to me but won't say anything to
the owners.
Finally got the idea to try training the poor thing myself, got a water
pistol, and it gets a shower of water if it barks. It's a bit cheaper than
the ultra-sonic anti-barking trainers at about £100.
So far it seems to be having the right effect. Don't get the continuous
barking we used to.

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Sharon28/2/04 12:17


You are making your life a misery, not the foxes, birds, rats, bugs,
crawlies, creepies etc, etc. If you cannot live with the world then
jump off a cliff and do yourself a favour,

You cannot live with foxes so they have to be at fault? !!!

Sorry, but you've completely missed the point. In fact, I'm an organic
gardener. I happily welcome birds (including pigeons and magpies),
squirrels, all the creepy crawlies, cats, etc, etc into my garden. Even the
foxes, which I've happily lived with for most of the past 10 years.

snip

This person is a troll with a somewhat fanatical approach to some things.
Ignore him.
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