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Birdsong?
That's interesting. We have a lot of buzzards in our area. Perhaps that's
why there has been a decline in songbirds here in recent years. Glad to see some Dunnocks have returned but I have never seen a sparrow in my garden and although we did have thrushes and I do my best to maintain a decent snail population they have vanished. I do have a very bossy robin, several species of tit and a very noisy blackbird shouting at everyone as I type. But the treecreeper has vanished as have the wrens that lived round here. Vicky "Inge Jones" wrote in message .. . In article , says... Then there were raptorial problems when two pairs of Buzzards moved in; and remained. They breed every year but four remain ~~possibly not the same individuals. Not a single songbird remains. Even minute Wrens were pulled out of the Ivy covered banks. They were so brazen that my wife was attacked till she released a Fantail Dove she was protecting. All forty doves were taken in four weeks. It made me cross once when my mail to that group doing the sparrow survey was poo-poohed. At my last home we had a little group of 6 sparrows that would briefly fly in and out of the garden. Then when we read about their decline we decided to see what we could do so started buying the recommended foods to supplement their insects, and grew a ceanothus because the thick growth would give them cover. Anyway those six had two broods in the final year, making over 50 at one count in our garden. The last of the young were just losing their yellow beaky bits when a sparrow hawk suddenly appeared for the first time ever seen in our garden. All the sparrows flew up into the ceanothus and the hawk started crashing into it trying to dislodge them. Well so much for books that say they use stealth and sneak up on them as they fly from tree to tree. He wasn't even bothering to eat them and there were perfectly untouched little bodies under the tree where they'd simply died of a heart attack of something. We never saw another sparrow in that garden so we'd even lost the long-term original six. When I told the sparrow survey about this they said sparrow hawks don't do this. I think they've already made up their mind it's a habitat thing, so why bother with the questionnaires? |
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"...........We have a lot of buzzards in our area. Perhaps that's
why there has been a decline in songbirds here in recent years...." We have anything from 4 to 10 buzzards here and I have often seen them perching on a couple of our poles. They certainly have done nothing to reduce the birdsong, on Tuesday and Wednesday I was woken just before 6am by the Birds, don't think I have known then quite so noisy. We regularly have chaffinches, green finches, hedge sparrows house sparrows, blue tits ,long tailed tits, great tits, and coal tits, robins, blackbirds, thrushes, Collared doves, wood pigeons, a pair of carrion crows, the odd starling(Though 10 yrs ago we had them by the hundred), Green woodpecker, magpies, Jays, and the Buzzards, rooks, a couple of Owls we hear at night or early morning. (NO wrens for the last couple of years).All of these seen or heard in the last week. As well tree creepers and nut hatches, flycatchers, bull finches, gold finches, field fairs,swallows, house martins and swifts, herons, sea gulls and terns, a pair of peregrine falcons that nest locally, ....... at some time in the year........ and probably a few that I cant think of now. Often think we would do better as a nature reserve. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:40:49 +0100, John
wrote: snip ~"jane" wrote in message ... ~ Sorry this is a late reply and may look odd - the original thread's ~ vanished off my reader but I had to reply... ~ ~ John ) wrote: ~ ~ ~In a Garden Centre in Ivybridge, Devon, one is greeted with 'piped' ~ ~bird song. Although it's only a recording, it is very effective. ~ ~ ~ ~The reason I mention it is that the gardens around my home have ~ ~- during the past half a dozen years - become sterile of birds. ~ ~ ~ ~I'll not go into the reason for obvious reasons, but it occurs to me ~ ~that a poor second choice to true bird song, would be the mentioned ~ ~disced copy. ~ ~ ~ ~Does anyone know of a disc of British bird song? Not one ~ ~of those with musical background - or dreadful shrieking choir - ~ ~but genuine, honest to goodness birds singing their hearts out. ~ ~ ~ ~Who knows, it may attract back the originals? ~ ~ ~ ~Thank you ~ ~ I was also met by a CD of birdsong a week ago at the gardens of ~ Heligan, and upon asking, found it was recorded in the gardens and ~ they have burned CDs to sell in their shop. There are some 51 minutes ~ of song, and though one long track, the insert has a key to main birds ~ heard in it by time. ~ ~ It cost me £6 and is wonderfully relaxing and thankyou for alerting me ~ to these CDs. And they sell it online for £7 inc P&P ~ ~ http://www.heliganshop.com/ShowDetails.asp?id=255 ~ ~ Hope this helps... (she says, listening to a particularly melodious ~ blackbird) ~ ~ ~ -- ~ jane ~============================== ~Jane. ~ Many thanks. I've had a look at Heligan's offer and from ~its description it would appear to be very simple to that which ~is to be offered -later this month- from ... ~http://www.wildsong.co.uk/index.html ~which address was also offered on/in? this site. ~ ~John ~======================================== The Heligan CD is a tiny bit cheaper, though! The wildsong link is handy as there are CDs and books to identify particular songs, which is something I've wanted for a while. thanks back again! -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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"David Hill" wrote in
: "...........We have a lot of buzzards in our area. Perhaps that's why there has been a decline in songbirds here in recent years...." We have anything from 4 to 10 buzzards here and I have often seen them perching on a couple of our poles. They certainly have done nothing to reduce the birdsong, on Tuesday and Wednesday I was woken just before 6am by the Birds, don't think I have known then quite so noisy. We regularly have chaffinches, green finches, hedge sparrows house sparrows, blue tits ,long tailed tits, great tits, and coal tits, robins, blackbirds, thrushes, Collared doves, wood pigeons, a pair of carrion crows, the odd starling(Though 10 yrs ago we had them by the hundred), Green woodpecker, magpies, Jays, and the Buzzards, rooks, a couple of Owls we hear at night or early morning. (NO wrens for the last couple of years).All of these seen or heard in the last week. Me too (except we have wrens as well, and a sparrowhawk, but I'm not sure about 2 types of sparrow - haven't looked that closely! Oh, and on one memorable occasion a hen at the top of an apple tree...) I'd be surprised to see a buzzard take more than the occasional song- bird - they are big things, and not all that manoeverable. I had a dog that managed to catch one once (both dog and buzzard deeply embarrassed by the whole thing, but both lived to tell the tale.) I thought buzzards lived mostly on rabbits? Our sparrowhawks don't seem to be making much of a dent in the local bird population and nor do the magpies. The species clearly can co- exist, or we'd have run out of small birds years back, so surely there must be some other factor involved? You probably get weirdos in most species - I've never seen a sparrowhawk behave in the way Inge describes, but I'm sure it can happen. As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), but I'm not sure that's one of the bigger risks faced by young frogs generally. (I like frogs much better than spiders, so I ran the hose on it and it left the frog and ran away. Maybe I curtailed the evolution of a disturbing race of frog-eating spiders....) Victoria -- gardening on a north-facing hill in South-East Cornwall -- |
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In article , Victoria
Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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The message
from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. |
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Janet Baraclough..16/4/04 5:03
k The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. No, it gambled away its inheritance. ;-)) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Birdsong?
In article , Janet Baraclough.
.. writes The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? The cat, well, kitten, actually, came face to face with the money spider, who refused to give ground. This alarmed the kitten (he was used to things running away) and he began to edge backwards with his front paws. Unfortunately he forget to edge backwards with his back paws, tripped over his own feet and fell over. This so alarmed him that he got up and ran away, leaving the money spider in possession of the field. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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Birdsong?
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. |
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Birdsong?
Janet Baraclough..16/4/04 5:03
k The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. No, it gambled away its inheritance. ;-)) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Birdsong?
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. |
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Janet Baraclough..16/4/04 5:03
k The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. No, it gambled away its inheritance. ;-)) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Birdsong?
In article , Janet Baraclough.
.. writes The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? The cat, well, kitten, actually, came face to face with the money spider, who refused to give ground. This alarmed the kitten (he was used to things running away) and he began to edge backwards with his front paws. Unfortunately he forget to edge backwards with his back paws, tripped over his own feet and fell over. This so alarmed him that he got up and ran away, leaving the money spider in possession of the field. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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The message
from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. |
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Birdsong?
Janet Baraclough..16/4/04 5:03
k The message from Kay Easton contains these words: In article , Victoria Clare writes As an example, I saw a spider try to eat a small frog once (yes, in the UK, in my back garden!), I know of a cat who took on a money spider and lost ;-) The money spider ate it? Janet. No, it gambled away its inheritance. ;-)) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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