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Hawk's beard
This seems to have taken over two of my borders.
What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! ROSIE |
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"Rosie" wrote in message ... This seems to have taken over two of my borders. What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! What is Hawk's beard? Franz |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes "Rosie" wrote in message ... This seems to have taken over two of my borders. What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! What is Hawk's beard? Crepis. A genus of dandelion look-alikes. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Rosie" wrote in message ... This seems to have taken over two of my borders. What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! What is Hawk's beard? Crepis. A genus of dandelion look-alikes. Thanks, Kay. The popular name does not occur in any of my six books on wild flowers. It is a strongly localised name? Franz |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Rosie" wrote in message ... This seems to have taken over two of my borders. What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! What is Hawk's beard? Crepis. A genus of dandelion look-alikes. Thanks, Kay. The popular name does not occur in any of my six books on wild flowers. It is a strongly localised name? I don't think so. It's in Fitter, Fitter and Blamey, also in Stace, which is the standard flora for the British Isles. If you are interested in wild flowers enough to have 6 books, then I'd very much recommend wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe, Fitter, Fitter and Blamey, pub Collins. Comprehensive, excellent illustrations. £14.99 but a lot cheaper through Amazon. Or earlier editions second hand. Or for £2 more you can get the larger sized Wild Flowers of Britain and Ireland by the same combination of authors in a different permutation which also has distribution maps - very handy to aid identification if you're looking at a whole page of white crucifers, for example ;-) It seems a sad fact of flower spotting that whatever you're looking at is always the one and only common species on the page ;-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Rosie" wrote in message ... This seems to have taken over two of my borders. What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole root? I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! What is Hawk's beard? Crepis. A genus of dandelion look-alikes. Thanks, Kay. The popular name does not occur in any of my six books on wild flowers. It is a strongly localised name? I don't think so. It's in Fitter, Fitter and Blamey, also in Stace, which is the standard flora for the British Isles. If you are interested in wild flowers enough to have 6 books, then I'd very much recommend wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe, Fitter, Fitter and Blamey, pub Collins. Comprehensive, excellent illustrations. £14.99 but a lot cheaper through Amazon. Or earlier editions second hand. Or for £2 more you can get the larger sized Wild Flowers of Britain and Ireland by the same combination of authors in a different permutation which also has distribution maps - very handy to aid identification if you're looking at a whole page of white crucifers, for example ;-) As usual, your advice is appreciated. However, I inadvertently lied in my previous post. I have 7 books on wild flowers. The seventh one is in fact Fitter & Fitter. It was lying, all forgotten, in the car, where it is most usually needed. And in fact it does have no fewer than 8 species of Hawksbeard. {:-( It seems a sad fact of flower spotting that whatever you're looking at is always the one and only common species on the page ;-) Unfortunately that is almost always true As a small ot remark: That Helxine you so kindly let me have last year is thriving and expanding gratifyingly. Franz |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes As a small ot remark: That Helxine you so kindly let me have last year is thriving and expanding gratifyingly. Good :-) It should like your cool damp valley :-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Rosie" wrote in message ... : This seems to have taken over two of my borders. : : What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole : root? : : I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! : : ROSIE : Would that be the Smooth, Beaked, Marsh, Orange, Leafy, Mouse Ear, or Alpine Hawksbeard? Courtesy of "Wild Flowers" by Peter D Moore, and this is the idiots guide. |
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"Franz Heymann" : As usual, your advice is appreciated. However, I inadvertently lied : in my previous post. I have 7 books on wild flowers. The seventh one : is in fact Fitter & Fitter. It was lying, all forgotten, in the car, : where it is most usually needed. And in fact it does have no fewer : than 8 species of Hawksbeard. {:-( : Damn, mine has only got 7 species, and its the only book I have on wild flowers |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" : As usual, your advice is appreciated. However, I inadvertently lied : in my previous post. I have 7 books on wild flowers. The seventh one : is in fact Fitter & Fitter. It was lying, all forgotten, in the car, : where it is most usually needed. And in fact it does have no fewer : than 8 species of Hawksbeard. {:-( : Damn, mine has only got 7 species, and its the only book I have on wild flowers I've done a recount. I still make it 8, to wit, the following are in the index: Beaked Bristly French Marsh Northern Rough Smooth Stinking If you look them up in the body of the book, there are actually more than 8 listed. Only 8 appear to have common names. And to be honest, I haven't found "Smooth" named as such except in the appendic of common names. Franz |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... "Rosie" wrote in message ... : This seems to have taken over two of my borders. : : What's the best way of getting rid of it? Do I need to dig up the whole : root? : : I'm knackered already and I've barely done a small patch of it! : : ROSIE : Would that be the Smooth, Beaked, Marsh, Orange, Leafy, Mouse Ear, or Alpine Hawksbeard? So much for folk names. The 8 I listed have only 3 names in common with your 7. Courtesy of "Wild Flowers" by Peter D Moore, and this is the idiots guide. Franz |
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"Franz Heymann" : : I've done a recount. I still make it 8, to wit, the following are in : the index: : Beaked : Bristly : French : Marsh : Northern : Rough : Smooth : Stinking : If you look them up in the body of the book, there are actually more : than 8 listed. Only 8 appear to have common names. : And to be honest, I haven't found "Smooth" named as such except in the : appendic of common names. : I've just done a check and it appears I have made a blunder, looking at the illustrations again I now have only 3 "Hawksbeard", thats the; Smooth Beaked Marsh I got them mixed up with and included the "Hawkweed" species which are, Orange Leafy Mouse Ear Alpine. I have also found a "Rough Hawkbit" species. Looking at the index gives me the same info, I must have gone crosseyed and counted everything that began with hawk, what book are you using?, I need to get a more comprehensive guide. |
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In article 5Ibsc.321$MU2.156@newsfe4-gui, Chris
writes I've just done a check and it appears I have made a blunder, looking at the illustrations again I now have only 3 "Hawksbeard", thats the; Smooth Beaked Marsh . Looking at the index gives me the same info, I must have gone crosseyed and counted everything that began with hawk, what book are you using?, I need to get a more comprehensive guide. I recommended a couple of books further back in this thread, both excellent. Franz is using one of them (though probably not the latest edition) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Chris" wrote in message news:5Ibsc.321$MU2.156@newsfe4-gui... "Franz Heymann" : : I've done a recount. I still make it 8, to wit, the following are in : the index: : Beaked : Bristly : French : Marsh : Northern : Rough : Smooth : Stinking : If you look them up in the body of the book, there are actually more : than 8 listed. Only 8 appear to have common names. : And to be honest, I haven't found "Smooth" named as such except in the : appendic of common names. : I've just done a check and it appears I have made a blunder, looking at the illustrations again I now have only 3 "Hawksbeard", thats the; Smooth Beaked Marsh I got them mixed up with and included the "Hawkweed" species which are, Orange Leafy Mouse Ear Alpine. I have also found a "Rough Hawkbit" species. Looking at the index gives me the same info, I must have gone crosseyed and counted everything that began with hawk, what book are you using?, I need to get a more comprehensive guide. Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe by Richard & Alastair Fitter, Illustrated by Marjorie Blamey, published by Collins. It is a must if you are interested in wild flowers. Franz |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article 5Ibsc.321$MU2.156@newsfe4-gui, Chris writes I've just done a check and it appears I have made a blunder, looking at the illustrations again I now have only 3 "Hawksbeard", thats the; Smooth Beaked Marsh . Looking at the index gives me the same info, I must have gone crosseyed and counted everything that began with hawk, what book are you using?, I need to get a more comprehensive guide. I recommended a couple of books further back in this thread, both excellent. Franz is using one of them (though probably not the latest edition) Mine is the 4th ed, 1985. Franz |
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