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Old 11-06-2004, 08:07 PM
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Growing several different varieties of Tomatoes. The other day I
accidentally "watered" one (a "Tumbling Tom " ) with the contents of a can
from the previous afternoon, Thought it was just tepid water. It turned out
to be a solution of Jeyes' Fluid, put in the wrong can. It went into the
soil, not touching the leaves. As I realized my daft mistake I quickly gave
the soil a good drenching of clear water, and repeated about every three
hours that day. Since then have watered soil twice daily. Have I done harm
with the Jeyes' - will the tomatoes be tainted, or even inedible??? Really
need some advice or reassurance on this, HELP. Mogsie.


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Old 11-06-2004, 08:07 PM
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No I dont thik you have any problems just watch the plants and water again
copiously if the leaves wilt.

If the plants survive as I think they should the fruits will not be tainted.

....................................Leslie

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Growing several different varieties of Tomatoes. The other day I
accidentally "watered" one (a "Tumbling Tom " ) with the contents of a can
from the previous afternoon, Thought it was just tepid water. It turned

out
to be a solution of Jeyes' Fluid, put in the wrong can. It went into the
soil, not touching the leaves. As I realized my daft mistake I quickly

gave
the soil a good drenching of clear water, and repeated about every three
hours that day. Since then have watered soil twice daily. Have I done

harm
with the Jeyes' - will the tomatoes be tainted, or even inedible??? Really
need some advice or reassurance on this, HELP. Mogsie.




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Old 13-06-2004, 01:06 AM
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"Leslie" wrote in message
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No I dont thik you have any problems just watch the plants and water again
copiously if the leaves wilt.

If the plants survive as I think they should the fruits will not be

tainted.

....................................Leslie

ompson" wrote in message
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Growing several different varieties of Tomatoes. The other day I
accidentally "watered" one (a "Tumbling Tom " ) with the contents of a

can
from the previous afternoon, Thought it was just tepid water. It turned

out
to be a solution of Jeyes' Fluid, put in the wrong can. It went into

the
soil, not touching the leaves. As I realized my daft mistake I quickly

gave
the soil a good drenching of clear water, and repeated about every three
hours that day. Since then have watered soil twice daily. Have I done

harm
with the Jeyes' - will the tomatoes be tainted, or even inedible???

Really
need some advice or reassurance on this, HELP. Mogsie.

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Don;t panic yet. At least you only watered one plant, so water copiously
now and then and see what the tomatoes taste like when they mature.
Old Frank, my mate, (We both served in Burmah but never met), never changed
the soil in his greenhouse, Every Spring-time he used to douse the
topsoil with a weak mixture of water and Jeyes Fluid. He grew about twenty
tomato plants every year and always had bumper crops.
You say it was a "solution" so that means it was watered down a bit so cheer
up! - wait until one tomatoe is good and ripe then taste it. I already
feel confident, but continue to wash the plant's root area regularly for a
while is the best advice I can give for now.
You could carefully take out a upside-down bowlshaped area around the stalk
taking care not to damage the stalk or its roots and infill with new soil,
but frankly I don't think it's worth the effort. Cheer up! - all is not
lost,.......Yet!.
Doug.
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Old 13-06-2004, 09:06 AM
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Douglas wrote:

Old Frank, my mate, (We both served in Burmah but never met), never changed
the soil in his greenhouse, Every Spring-time he used to douse the
topsoil with a weak mixture of water and Jeyes Fluid. He grew about twenty
tomato plants every year and always had bumper crops.


Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?

I suppose I could look at the label on a new tin, but that isn't
what's in my garage.

Regards
Chris
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Old 13-06-2004, 10:04 AM
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:39:06 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Douglas wrote:

Old Frank, my mate, (We both served in Burmah but never met), never changed
the soil in his greenhouse, Every Spring-time he used to douse the
topsoil with a weak mixture of water and Jeyes Fluid. He grew about twenty
tomato plants every year and always had bumper crops.


Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?


Cleaning toilets etc.. Isn't that what it was originally intended for?




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Old 13-06-2004, 12:11 PM
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martin wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:39:06 +0100, Chris J Dixon
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Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?


Cleaning toilets etc.. Isn't that what it was originally intended for?

So sterilising soil would be out, but killing moss on the drive
is hardly "plant protection".

It all seems a bit strange- does the hazard (or possible hazard
which nobody wants to fund testing for) occur during or after
application?

Chris
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Old 13-06-2004, 01:13 PM
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:02:13 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

martin wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:39:06 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:


Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?


Cleaning toilets etc.. Isn't that what it was originally intended for?

So sterilising soil would be out, but killing moss on the drive
is hardly "plant protection".

It all seems a bit strange- does the hazard (or possible hazard
which nobody wants to fund testing for) occur during or after
application?


Better read the applicable UK law.
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Old 13-06-2004, 06:06 PM
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
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Douglas wrote:

Old Frank, my mate, (We both served in Burmah but never met), never

changed
the soil in his greenhouse, Every Spring-time he used to douse

the
topsoil with a weak mixture of water and Jeyes Fluid. He grew

about twenty
tomato plants every year and always had bumper crops.


Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?


Its original use was to try to keep alfresco bucket and chuck it
lavatories under control.

I suppose I could look at the label on a new tin, but that isn't
what's in my garage.

Franz


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Old 14-06-2004, 11:09 AM
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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Now that Jeyes fluid has been "Withdrawn for plant protection
uses" to comply with EU rules, precisely which uses are we
actually allowed?


Its original use was to try to keep alfresco bucket and chuck it
lavatories under control.


We had one of those when I was a kid - an Elsan? I thought we fed it
formaldehyde and crap not Jeyes fluid. It was an improvement on the
earth closet that the previous owner of the house used.
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Old 15-07-2004, 01:41 PM
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".......... We had one of those when I was a kid - an Elsan? I thought we
fed it formaldehyde and crap not Jeyes fluid. It was an improvement on the
earth closet that the previous owner of the house used .........."

The old Elsan toilet used to use Elsanol, specially made, but now it is
Elsan perfumed .

Properly used an Earth closet works better than anything and is hygienic and
odour free, as I said, used Properly.



David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




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Old 15-07-2004, 01:42 PM
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"David Hill" wrote
".......... We had one of those when I was a kid - an Elsan? I thought we
fed it formaldehyde and crap not Jeyes fluid. It was an improvement on the
earth closet that the previous owner of the house used .........."

The old Elsan toilet used to use Elsanol, specially made, but now it is
Elsan perfumed .

Properly used an Earth closet works better than anything and is hygienic

and
odour free, as I said, used Properly.

Works exactly like a cat litter tray in fact. You do your business and then
chuck some very dry earth on it to cover it, kills the smell and starts the
decomposing process.
I've seen it said that it was a much better system (for the environment) and
cleaner than the flush toilet. Mr Crapper has a lot to answer for.

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Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK


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Old 15-07-2004, 05:03 PM
 
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:31:58 +0100, "David Hill"
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".......... We had one of those when I was a kid - an Elsan? I thought we
fed it formaldehyde and crap not Jeyes fluid. It was an improvement on the
earth closet that the previous owner of the house used .........."

The old Elsan toilet used to use Elsanol, specially made, but now it is
Elsan perfumed .


Elsanol was formadehyde with a Elsanol label on the container to up
the price.


Properly used an Earth closet works better than anything and is hygienic and
odour free, as I said, used Properly.


There can't have been many that worked properly when I was a kid.
They all stank in summer, on the plus side some were two seaters.
Threy all stank and somebody had the unpleasant task of emptying and
burying the contents of the toilet/zinc bath.

Water closets have distinct advantages over earth closets :-)

Amusing tale of Elsan toilets at
http://www.fatherstales.co.uk/pages/JimGibbs.htm

and what Lancaster bombers really dropped on Germany
http://www.raf-lichfield.co.uk/Linco...tt%20Elsan.htm
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Martin
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