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: I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years by 5
: goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the surface to
feed
: !.
: It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and surface
feeding,
: how it got there I do not know !.
: Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some
friends
of
: its own species !
:
: You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish. Throw
them
: some extra fish food.
:
:
Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra, the
pond would be full of fry.

My arent you the humourless one?

Firstly we do not know if the OP has more than one such fish .
He has a sighting that suggests a young fish.

That fish either
a) bred in the pond from the existing stock ( most likely) or
b) has been introduced by some outside source ( less likely).

The anthropomorphism is simply my way of suggesting a natural occurance -
ie he has young fish in the pond.

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: In message , Ged
: writes
: I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years by 5
: goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the surface to
feed
: !.
: It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and surface
feeding,
: how it got there I do not know !.
: Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some friends
of
: its own species !
:
: You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish. Throw them
: some extra fish food.
:
:
Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra, the
pond would be full of fry.

It is not unknown for fish to eat "live food". Goldfish TMK are no exception!

--
AnneJ

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: I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years
by 5
: goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the
surface to
feed
: !.
: It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and
surface
feeding,
: how it got there I do not know !.
: Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some
friends
of
: its own species !
:
: You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish.
Throw them
: some extra fish food.
:
:
Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra,
the
pond would be full of fry.

Nonsense. What the OP saw was one of the few (possibly one only?) who
escaped being eaten by their parents.

Franz

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"mich" wrote in message
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: In message , Ged
: writes
: I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years by 5
: goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the surface to
feed
: !.
: It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and surface
feeding,
: how it got there I do not know !.
: Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some
friends
of
: its own species !
:
: You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish. Throw
them
: some extra fish food.
:
:
Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra, the
pond would be full of fry.



Maybe it is and he hasn't noticed them - tiny black fish can be difficult to
spot. Maybe it was and most have perished. Of course, there are lots of
possible ways a 'stranger' may have been introduced, but they are all less
likely than some normal spawning activity amongst the original residents.

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: : In message , Ged
: : writes
: : I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years by 5
: : goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the surface to
: feed
: : !.
: : It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and surface
: feeding,
: : how it got there I do not know !.
: : Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some
: friends
: of
: : its own species !
: :
: : You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish. Throw
: them
: : some extra fish food.
: :
: :
: Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra, the
: pond would be full of fry.
:
: My arent you the humourless one?
:
: Firstly we do not know if the OP has more than one such fish .
: He has a sighting that suggests a young fish.

Learn to read then, 1 black fish reported, not 2 or 3, or half a dozen.

:
: That fish either
: a) bred in the pond from the existing stock ( most likely) or
: b) has been introduced by some outside source ( less likely).
: c) you are an idiot (more likely)
: The anthropomorphism is simply my way of suggesting a natural occurance -
: ie he has young fish in the pond.
:
:
:

Ok sherlock.

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Maybe it is and he hasn't noticed them - tiny black fish can be difficult
to
spot. Maybe it was and most have perished. Of course, there are lots of
possible ways a 'stranger' may have been introduced, but they are all
less
likely than some normal spawning activity amongst the original residents.



I'm not suggesting this happened in this case, but 2-3 years ago, my
mother in law discovered 20 or 30 baby goldfish in her pond. As they
were getting eaten, she fished 10 out and put them in some of her indoor
aquaria. They were silvery with a hint of gold. Over the next 2 years,
they stayed silvery, causing us to wonder if they were really goldfish.

A coarse fisher that visited asked what we were doing with dace in the
fish tanks. We were very puzzled - wondering if a visiting bird maybe
dropped some spawn - and other unlikely things.

Eventually, we recalled that in the year of their appearance, we had
gone to a local stream and my daughter had collected some "frogspawn".


Well, assuming that the local stream has a population of dace (they prefer
relatively fast flowing water), it is not impossible that they may have been
inadvertently transferred by your daughter. Dace spawn in the spring,
usually between March and May, and deposit their eggs on sandy or stony beds
or on aquatic plants. The eggs hatch out after four weeks or so.

Frogs, OTOH, can spawn at any time between December and April, depending on
the weather, and usually choose shallow, still water to do so.

So there is a definite possibility of someone 'dipping' for frogspawn in the
margins of a stream (although dace prefer fast flowing habitat, they usually
drop downstream to slower water to breed) in March/April picking up some
dace spawn, especially if they transfer weed or stones to which spawn may be
attached.

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: : writes
: : I have a small pond in my garden inhabited these last 5 years by
5
: : goldfish.While feeding them today a stranger came to the surface
to
: feed
: : !.
: : It was a black fish about 2 inches long, fast moving and surface
: feeding,
: : how it got there I do not know !.
: : Can anyone identify it for me please?, maybe I can buy it some
: friends
: of
: : its own species !
: :
: : You need to congratulate the proud parents of this young fish. Throw
: them
: : some extra fish food.
: :
: :
: Nonsense, if they did breed there would be more than one fish extra,
the
: pond would be full of fry.
:
: My arent you the humourless one?
:
: Firstly we do not know if the OP has more than one such fish .
: He has a sighting that suggests a young fish.

Learn to read then, 1 black fish reported, not 2 or 3, or half a dozen.

As other posters have pointed out - sighting one fish does not exclude the
existence of others since small black fast moving fish can be difficult to
spot.
reasons have also been given as to why this fish may be a single fish. I
will not bother to repeat them.

: c) you are an idiot (more likely)


Ok sherlock.



Why pick on me? I said nothing different to anyone else - or are you
suggesting we are all idiots here? In which case maybe you should seek out
a different company to which you might be better suited.

I for one will not be bothering to either read or reply to your posts in
future.

In article ,
says...

...not a lot of sense.


I have a pond with goldfish and they spawn every year, the pond is then
very well populated with tiny fish, perhaps several hundred. They never
become adult fish, the bigger fish eat them and frogs eat them, they get
sucked into the pump and generally perish in many ways. Some years I
have two survivors and other years none. One year I had six black fish
about an inch long in the spring, as far as I know only one lived.
There is no reason whatsoever to suppose that the OPs pond would be full
of small fish, black or otherwise.
As for the bigger fish's appetite, I took some spawn out of the pond and
raised the fry in a tank, I had one particularly nice fish with a very
long tail. When it was about an inch or so long I decided to return it
to the pond, it was eaten within a couple of minutes. They will eat
almost anything they can get in their mouths including their own eggs
and fry.

"pb" wrote in message
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..not a lot of sense.


I have a pond with goldfish and they spawn every year, the pond is then
very well populated with tiny fish, perhaps several hundred. They never
become adult fish, the bigger fish eat them and frogs eat them, they get
sucked into the pump and generally perish in many ways. Some years I
have two survivors and other years none. One year I had six black fish
about an inch long in the spring, as far as I know only one lived.
There is no reason whatsoever to suppose that the OPs pond would be full
of small fish, black or otherwise.
As for the bigger fish's appetite, I took some spawn out of the pond and
raised the fry in a tank, I had one particularly nice fish with a very
long tail. When it was about an inch or so long I decided to return it
to the pond, it was eaten within a couple of minutes. They will eat
almost anything they can get in their mouths including their own eggs
and fry.

In the two years I lived at my house the pond population has gone from five
to ten (one death and six births). Haven't spotted any new fish this year
but then again trying to see something that is black/brown and small, in a
pond is always tricky.

p.s. When do goldfish spawn and how long does it take for a goldfish to
'mature'?

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Please don't feed the trolls ...

"pb" wrote in message
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: ..not a lot of sense.

Really,

:
:
: I have a pond with goldfish and they spawn every year, the pond is then
: very well populated with tiny fish, perhaps several hundred. They never
: become adult fish, the bigger fish eat them and frogs eat them, they get
: sucked into the pump and generally perish in many ways. Some years I
: have two survivors and other years none. One year I had six black fish
: about an inch long in the spring, as far as I know only one lived.
: There is no reason whatsoever to suppose that the OPs pond would be full
: of small fish, black or otherwise.

Dont misquote me, I did not assume that, I stated a fact in reply to a
poster who was "ASSUMING they bred".


: As for the bigger fish's appetite, I took some spawn out of the pond and
: raised the fry in a tank, I had one particularly nice fish with a very
: long tail. When it was about an inch or so long I decided to return it
: to the pond, it was eaten within a couple of minutes. They will eat
: almost anything they can get in their mouths including their own eggs
: and fry.

If you had any idea then you would have sectioned an area of the pond off
with fine mesh, or introduce some plants to provide some cover, its as
simple as that to allow some fry to survive, then growing fish to 1" long in
a tank, you have not go a clue, have you.

"pb" wrote in message
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"pb" wrote in message
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: In article ,

: says...
:
: There is no reason whatsoever to suppose that the OPs pond would be
full
: of small fish, black or otherwise.

Dont misquote me, I did not assume that, I stated a fact in reply to a
poster who was "ASSUMING they bred".



If you had any idea then you would have sectioned an area of the pond
off
with fine mesh, or introduce some plants to provide some cover, its as
simple as that to allow some fry to survive, then growing fish to 1"
long in
a tank, you have not go a clue, have you.





I have managed to keep my fish alive and presumably happy for at least
fifteen years. The only time I netted off part of the pond I found the
net was an excellent trap for frogs. Introduce some plants you say. Do
you imagine I have my fish in a swimming pool or something, or do you
want to tell me which end to suck eggs too.
Kindly assume that I do have more than a vague idea of keeping fish.


This guy is just trolling. Ignore his posts.