Hanging plants

[Billy[_4_]]

I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.

Thanks for any help.
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[Bill R]

Billy wrote:
> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could use some advice on the
> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> Thanks for any help.

I tried strawberries in hanging baskets and even with netting birds were
a BIG problem. They also produce fewer berries than plants grown in the
ground. If you like small tomatoes there are several varieties that do
very well in hanging baskets.

There are many, many plants that do well in hanging baskets. I,
personally, don't like Nasturtiums in baskets because, around here, they
look like crap after the middle of July. I would go to your local garden
store and look around and see what plants and colors you like and talk
to local gardeners in your area and see what they recommend that does
well in your area. You might want to take a look at my web site,
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/index.html and see all the plants that I
have grown in hanging baskets. It might give you a few ideas. Around
here, Petunias are very popular and the cascading ones do very well in
baskets.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

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[Omelet[_5_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> Thanks for any help.

Want some fun, plant one of them with peanuts.

Seriously. :-)
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[Sheldon[_1_]]

On Mar 4, 1:11�pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> �Billy > wrote:
> > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> Want some fun, plant one of them with peanuts.

More fun planted with pot! hehe

[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> Thanks for any help.

How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
thorns that you can cut and root over winter.

http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html

http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm

http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impatien
s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj


Bill who wishes they were edible

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> Want some fun, plant one of them with peanuts.
>
From whence comes the merriment?
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Mar 4, 1:11?pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > ?Billy > wrote:
> > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Want some fun, plant one of them with peanuts.
>
> More fun planted with pot! hehe

I've been potted before. I'm just trying to avoid being planted;-)
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
> thorns that you can cut and root over winter.
>
> http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html
>
> http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm
>
> http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impatien
> s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
>
> or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj
>
>
> Bill who wishes they were edible

It seems near the house, where there isn't much continuous Sun, they
would be OK but I am planning on having them out in the garden in full
Sun for 6 - 8 hours/day. Would they be OK or would they fry?
--

Billy

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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Bill > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
> > thorns that you can cut and root over winter.
> >
> > http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html
> >
> > http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm
> >
> > http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impatien
> > s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
> >
> > or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj
> >
> >
> > Bill who wishes they were edible
>
> It seems near the house, where there isn't much continuous Sun, they
> would be OK but I am planning on having them out in the garden in full
> Sun for 6 - 8 hours/day. Would they be OK or would they fry?

They would fry most likely. They like shade and moisture. Still a
micro climate of your design may help them give you lots of color.

Bill

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[MajorOz]

On Mar 4, 2:27 pm, Billy > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
> Bill > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
>
> > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> > > Thanks for any help.
>
> > How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
> > thorns that you can cut and root over winter.
>
> >http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html
>
> >http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm
>
> >http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impa...
> > s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
>
> > or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj
>
> > Bill who wishes they were edible
>
> It seems near the house, where there isn't much continuous Sun, they
> would be OK but I am planning on having them out in the garden in full
> Sun for 6 - 8 hours/day. Would they be OK or would they fry?
> --
>
> Billy
>
> Impeach Pelosi
> Bush & Cheney to the Haguehttp://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml

How 'bout a small arbor to provide top shade, but still be in the
garden? My choice, with hangers on the deck, is almost always
something that attracts hummingbirds.

Good luck

cheers

oz

[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Bill > wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Billy > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
> > > thorns that you can cut and root over winter.
> > >
> > > http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html
> > >
> > > http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm
> > >
> > > http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impatien
> > > s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
> > >
> > > or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill who wishes they were edible
> >
> > It seems near the house, where there isn't much continuous Sun, they
> > would be OK but I am planning on having them out in the garden in full
> > Sun for 6 - 8 hours/day. Would they be OK or would they fry?
>
> They would fry most likely. They like shade and moisture. Still a
> micro climate of your design may help them give you lots of color.
>
> Bill

Still I've been looking for some color on the front porch. Sounds like
they may be the ticket for that.
--

Billy

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[Omelet[_5_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Want some fun, plant one of them with peanuts.
> >
> From whence comes the merriment?

They way they grow and seed. It just looks neat. If it works like it
should, you'll get the peanuts to develop hanging underneath the basket.
Leaf-wise, they are a pretty plant anyway with nice little flowers. The
fertile flowers then sprout this spike that shoves the developing seed
pod underground.
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[Omelet[_5_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Bill > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Bill > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > Billy > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's
> > > > > a
> > > > > toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on
> > > > > the
> > > > > type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> > > > > cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a
> > > > > weed
> > > > > here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> > > > > hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial
> > > > > sun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help.
> > > >
> > > > How about Impatiens ? We love double impatiens. Think roses with no
> > > > thorns that you can cut and root over winter.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1994/5-11-1994/impat.html
> > > >
> > > > http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/SBRelease5_6_02.htm
> > > >
> > > > http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=double+impatie
> > > > n
> > > > s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
> > > >
> > > > or http://preview.tinyurl.com/3as8jj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill who wishes they were edible
> > >
> > > It seems near the house, where there isn't much continuous Sun, they
> > > would be OK but I am planning on having them out in the garden in full
> > > Sun for 6 - 8 hours/day. Would they be OK or would they fry?
> >
> > They would fry most likely. They like shade and moisture. Still a
> > micro climate of your design may help them give you lots of color.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Still I've been looking for some color on the front porch. Sounds like
> they may be the ticket for that.

My mom always planted petunias. They always did fine in direct sunlight,
but they don't cascade like you want.
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[David E. Ross]

On 3/4/2008 9:41 AM, Billy wrote:
> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> Thanks for any help.

A former neighbor had an azalea with double white flowers in a hanging
planter. It grew out and down, almost hiding the planter; and it
bloomed most of year. This was in an area that got afternoon sun with
100F+ summer temperatures, so I don't think a lack of shade would be a
problem in your area. However, depending on the size of the planter and
the potting mix, it might require daily watering. Unfortunately, I have
no idea what variety of azalea it was.

As for impatiens, you should inquire at a local nursery. In your area,
you might be able to grow it in full sun.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>

[Omelet[_5_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:04:25 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >My mom always planted petunias. They always did fine in direct sunlight,
> >but they don't cascade like you want.
>
> Last summer we planted old fashioned vining petunias in hanging
> containers and they do cascade several feet. They are not as heavily
> flowered as the hybrid types, but they are highly perfumed. We had
> ours hanging both in full sunlight and some in partial sun...six hours
> morning direct sun.
>
> Care
> Charlie

I'd never heard of those. :-)
I'll have to look for them.
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[mleblanca]

Billy wrote:
> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> --
>
> Billy
>
Sweet potato vine
Morning Glory
Lobelia
Sedums small ones cascade over edge
Angelina is a newer one that is a bright lime/
chartreuse
Sweet Alyssum
Portulaca
Nierembergia

Emilie
NorCal

[Omelet[_5_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:05:01 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Charlie wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:04:25 -0600, Omelet >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >My mom always planted petunias. They always did fine in direct sunlight,
> >> >but they don't cascade like you want.
> >>
> >> Last summer we planted old fashioned vining petunias in hanging
> >> containers and they do cascade several feet. They are not as heavily
> >> flowered as the hybrid types, but they are highly perfumed. We had
> >> ours hanging both in full sunlight and some in partial sun...six hours
> >> morning direct sun.
> >>
> >> Care
> >> Charlie
> >
> >I'd never heard of those. :-)
> >I'll have to look for them.
>
> No need to look... :-)
>
> Here they are......you have to scroll down to them, the petunia page
> address won't display when I paste the address....???? Who knows.
>
> http://seedsavers.org/products.asp?dept=49&pagenumber=3&sort_on=&sort_by=
>
> Seedsavers is a great organization to support and their seeds are
> excellant.
>
> Care
> Charlie

Thanks Charlie!

That was very kind. :-)
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[Omelet[_5_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:59:06 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>
> >That was very kind. :-)
>
> ;-) Glad you noticed. I'm tryin'!
>
> Charlie

Cheers!
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[David E. Ross]

On 3/4/2008 6:05 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/4/2008 9:41 AM, Billy wrote:
>> I have four hanging baskets that I want to plant with something. It's a
>> toss up between strawberries and flowers. I could us some advice on the
>> type of strawberry or some help in finding flowering plants that will
>> cascade. Nasturtium is one choice because it already grows like a weed
>> here. I'm in USDA 9b, 70 miles north of San Francisco, in the costal
>> hills, the baskets will get 6 - 8 hrs of full sun and some partial sun.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>
> A former neighbor had an azalea with double white flowers in a hanging
> planter. It grew out and down, almost hiding the planter; and it
> bloomed most of year. This was in an area that got afternoon sun with
> 100F+ summer temperatures, so I don't think a lack of shade would be a
> problem in your area. However, depending on the size of the planter and
> the potting mix, it might require daily watering. Unfortunately, I have
> no idea what variety of azalea it was.
>
> As for impatiens, you should inquire at a local nursery. In your area,
> you might be able to grow it in full sun.
>

You might also consider "ground cover" roses. These are small,
shrub-like roses that grow more outward than upward. They are larger
than miniature roses. In a hanging basket without the ground to support
the thin branches, they should hang down. Some will bloom almost
continuously throughout the year.

I'm looking at a catalogue from Otto & Sons in Fillmore (Ventura County,
CA). They list the following as suitable for coastal climates:

'Flower Carpet' (in pink, apple blossom, red, white, and yellow varieties)

'Sun Runner' (yellow)

Note: I am not recommending Otto & Sons. I don't know the quality of
their plants. I got their catalogue when I made my first purchase there
today.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>

[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
"David E. Ross" > wrote:

> David

Thank you David, I'll keep that in mind but this year i've committed to
pansies. I've made a note of your suggestion and if the pansies don't
work out I'll revisit your suggestion. Thank you for your advice.
--

Billy

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[enigma]

Billy > wrote in

ct.net.au:

> In article >,
> "David E. Ross" > wrote:
>
>> David
>
> Thank you David, I'll keep that in mind but this year i've
> committed to pansies. I've made a note of your suggestion
> and if the pansies don't work out I'll revisit your
> suggestion. Thank you for your advice.

pansies? i thought it was petunias. if you find any trailing
pansies i want to know about them too! :)
BTW, which variety of petunias were you going with? i like
the old style ones at Richter's.
lee

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
enigma > wrote:

> Billy > wrote in
>
> ct.net.au:
>
> > In article >,
> > "David E. Ross" > wrote:
> >
> >> David
> >
> > Thank you David, I'll keep that in mind but this year i've
> > committed to pansies. I've made a note of your suggestion
> > and if the pansies don't work out I'll revisit your
> > suggestion. Thank you for your advice.
>
> pansies? i thought it was petunias. if you find any trailing
> pansies i want to know about them too! :)
> BTW, which variety of petunias were you going with? i like
> the old style ones at Richter's.
> lee

You should have been around when I had the Sun rising in the west:-)
Petunias it is: Old Fashioned Vining Petunia $2.75/packet

I looked at Richter's site but a search for petunias came up empty.

You can thank Charlie for the URL
http://www.seedsavers.org/prodinfo.asp?number=53(OG)

I can hardly wait until May, when I can be out in my garden, but it
seems gardening is actually preparing to garden by preparing for the
future.
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[enigma]

Billy > wrote in

ct.net.au:

> You should have been around when I had the Sun rising in
> the west:-) Petunias it is: Old Fashioned Vining Petunia
> $2.75/packet

darn. i wanted some trailing pansies ;)
>
> I looked at Richter's site but a search for petunias came
> up empty.

maybe i was thinking of Seedsavers... see, not just you.
Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
garden.

> You can thank Charlie for the URL
> http://www.seedsavers.org/prodinfo.asp?number=53(OG)

thank you Charlie! i saw some tomatoes i want there too.

> I can hardly wait until May, when I can be out in my
> garden, but it seems gardening is actually preparing to
> garden by preparing for the future.

i can start seeds indoors in May. maybe some lettuces on the
plastic wrapped porch in May...
lee



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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
enigma > wrote:

> Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
> garden.
?????

Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked right into that
one.

I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient universe that
may become new again. Feel like I'm putting down roots myself.

You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?

You've made my day, thanks:-)
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article >,
> enigma > wrote:
>
> > Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
> > garden.
> ?????
>
> Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked right into that
> one.
>
> I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient universe that
> may become new again. Feel like I'm putting down roots myself.
>
> You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?
>
> You've made my day, thanks:-)

I've got a weird wonderful booklet. Rocky Mountain Dye Plants by Anne
Bliss. It is a ringed booklet.

Library of Congress #76-376143 Year 1976

.............

Lee

If you want it send me your snail mail to and I'll
give it to you. Would be good to know someone can use it.

Bill

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > enigma > wrote:
> >
> > > Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
> > > garden.
> > ?????
> >
> > Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked right into that
> > one.
> >
> > I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient universe that
> > may become new again. Feel like I'm putting down roots myself.
> >
> > You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?
> >
> > You've made my day, thanks:-)
>
> I've got a weird wonderful booklet. Rocky Mountain Dye Plants by Anne
> Bliss. It is a ringed booklet.
>
> Library of Congress #76-376143 Year 1976
>
> ............
>
> Lee
>
> If you want it send me your snail mail to and I'll
> give it to you. Would be good to know someone can use it.
>
> Bill

I'll be writing. Thanks.
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[Bill[_13_]]

In article
>,
Billy > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Bill > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Billy > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > enigma > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
> > > > garden.
> > > ?????
> > >
> > > Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked right into that
> > > one.
> > >
> > > I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient universe that
> > > may become new again. Feel like I'm putting down roots myself.
> > >
> > > You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?
> > >
> > > You've made my day, thanks:-)
> >
> > I've got a weird wonderful booklet. Rocky Mountain Dye Plants by Anne
> > Bliss. It is a ringed booklet.
> >
> > Library of Congress #76-376143 Year 1976
> >
> > ............
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > If you want it send me your snail mail to and I'll
> > give it to you. Would be good to know someone can use it.
> >
> > Bill
>
> I'll be writing. Thanks.

Already promised to lee next week.

Perhaps you folks can share if it is of value.

Bill

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[Billy[_4_]]

In article
>,
Bill > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Billy > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Bill > wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Billy > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > enigma > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
> > > > > garden.
> > > > ?????
> > > >
> > > > Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked right into that
> > > > one.
> > > >
> > > > I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient universe
> > > > that
> > > > may become new again. Feel like I'm putting down roots myself.
> > > >
> > > > You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?
> > > >
> > > > You've made my day, thanks:-)
> > >
> > > I've got a weird wonderful booklet. Rocky Mountain Dye Plants by Anne
> > > Bliss. It is a ringed booklet.
> > >
> > > Library of Congress #76-376143 Year 1976
> > >
> > > ............
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > > If you want it send me your snail mail to and I'll
> > > give it to you. Would be good to know someone can use it.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > I'll be writing. Thanks.
>
> Already promised to lee next week.
>
> Perhaps you folks can share if it is of value.
>
> Bill

Na. It'll have a good home.
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[enigma]

> In article
>
> .net.au>,
> Billy > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> enigma > wrote:
>>
>> > Richter's has madder & woad, which i need for the dyer's
>> > garden.
>> ?????
>>
>> Why don't you just sink a post in front of me? I walked
>> right into that one.
>>
>> I peeled back the edge enough to peek into another ancient
>> universe that may become new again. Feel like I'm putting
>> down roots myself.
>>
>> You're a sometimes weaver then, are you Lee?

somehow this post never hit my server. if Bill hadn't quoted
it, i'd never have seen it...
i *can* weave. i would love a floor loom (or a jack loom). i
have a small tapestry loom that is good for both fiber & bead
weaving. mostly i knit right now, but i'd like to weave rugs.
i like to mess with fiber, both animal & vegetable (you can
spin milkweed, you know). spinning, dying, making it into
something. not necessarily useful, but sometimes just amusing
or cute.
i do a lot of things. gardening, woodworking, fiber stuff,
beads, hot glass, brewing, baking. i'd do more probably if i
got away from the computer more ;)

>> You've made my day, thanks:-)

?
well, good. i like learning new stuff & i need to keep my
hands busy.
lee
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article om>,
Steve > wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:17:20 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
> wrote:
>
> >i like to mess with fiber, both animal & vegetable (you can
> >spin milkweed, you know). spinning, dying, making it into
> >something. not necessarily useful, but sometimes just amusing
> >or cute.
>
> Seen this?
> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/24076
> Vegetable Dyes by Ethel M. Mairet

And more ignorance bites the dust.
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[enigma]

Steve > wrote in
ews.com:

> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:17:20 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > wrote:
>
>>i like to mess with fiber, both animal & vegetable (you can
>>spin milkweed, you know). spinning, dying, making it into
>>something. not necessarily useful, but sometimes just
>>amusing or cute.
>
> Seen this?
> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/24076
> Vegetable Dyes by Ethel M. Mairet

no, i hadn't. thank you! the chapter on lichen dyes is
particularly interesting.
the book i have is Dyer's Garden by Rita Buchanan, who is
relatively local (same state). Dyer's Garden may be out of
print now, mine is over 10 years old, but i noticed she has a
new Weaver's Garden book out last time i was at Border's.
lee
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[enigma]

Steve > wrote in
ews.com:

> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:25:04 -0600, Charlie wrote:
>
>>They are one of
>>only four seedsmen I use any more.
>
> OK, cough it up.
> You named two, who would the others be?
>
> Waterboarding is reasonable when used to extract supplier
> info...
>

i get nice heirloom seeds from Lisa at amishlandseeds.com
it's a one person operation, but IME service is prompt, or she
communicates delays.
i ordered some green tomatoes from her last spring & she sent
the ones i ordered with a note that they tend to have
germination problems & a free full packet of another green
variety she thought might be better suited. oddly, my
germination rate with the 'difficult' variety was 99%, and
both varieties were wonderful, although i think i'm still not
so great at telling when they're ripe ;)
lee
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[enigma]

Charlie wrote in
:

> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > wrote:
>
>>Steve > wrote in
ews.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:25:04 -0600, Charlie wrote:
>>>
>>>>They are one of
>>>>only four seedsmen I use any more.
>>>
>>> OK, cough it up.
>>> You named two, who would the others be?
>>>
>>> Waterboarding is reasonable when used to extract supplier
>>> info...
>>>
>>
>>i get nice heirloom seeds from Lisa at amishlandseeds.com
>>it's a one person operation, but IME service is prompt, or
>>she communicates delays.
>> i ordered some green tomatoes from her last spring & she
>> sent
>>the ones i ordered with a note that they tend to have
>>germination problems & a free full packet of another green
>>variety she thought might be better suited. oddly, my
>>germination rate with the 'difficult' variety was 99%, and
>>both varieties were wonderful, although i think i'm still
>>not so great at telling when they're ripe ;)
>
> Thanks Lee. I have been trying to simplify my life and you
> just complicated it a bit. I spent the last thirty minutes
> nosing about her site. Of course I found things I
> *need*......

heh. i grew 48 varieties of tomatoes last summer... and 16
peppers. i am *not* obsessive! ;)
lee
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >,
enigma > wrote:

> Charlie wrote in
> :
>
> > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>Steve > wrote in
> ews.com:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:25:04 -0600, Charlie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>They are one of
> >>>>only four seedsmen I use any more.
> >>>
> >>> OK, cough it up.
> >>> You named two, who would the others be?
> >>>
> >>> Waterboarding is reasonable when used to extract supplier
> >>> info...
> >>>
> >>
> >>i get nice heirloom seeds from Lisa at amishlandseeds.com
> >>it's a one person operation, but IME service is prompt, or
> >>she communicates delays.
> >> i ordered some green tomatoes from her last spring & she
> >> sent
> >>the ones i ordered with a note that they tend to have
> >>germination problems & a free full packet of another green
> >>variety she thought might be better suited. oddly, my
> >>germination rate with the 'difficult' variety was 99%, and
> >>both varieties were wonderful, although i think i'm still
> >>not so great at telling when they're ripe ;)
> >
> > Thanks Lee. I have been trying to simplify my life and you
> > just complicated it a bit. I spent the last thirty minutes
> > nosing about her site. Of course I found things I
> > *need*......
>
> heh. i grew 48 varieties of tomatoes last summer... and 16
> peppers. i am *not* obsessive! ;)
> lee

I would remind you that extremism in the pursuit of 'maters is no vice!
And let me remind you also, that moderation in the defense of peppers is
no virtue.
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[Billy[_4_]]

In article >, Charlie wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:27:11 GMT, Steve > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:24:46 -0600, Charlie wrote:
> >
> >>Ok ok.....but you'll never get the location of me morel foraging
> >>spots!!!
> >
> >Vee have vays to make you talk.
> >
> >Quick story:
> >We had a fire up near a place I like to fish. I went up a couple of
> >weeks or so after they reopened the area to survey the damage.
> >I was surprised to see about 6 guys "wandering" through the burn area.
> >
> >Little did I know...
>
>
> Yes indeed!
>
> Shhhhh........don't tell anyone!
>
> Charlie

What? That morels grow in the burn areas of pine forests. What do I look
like a dummy?
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[enigma]

Charlie wrote in
:

> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > wrote:
>
>
>>heh. i grew 48 varieties of tomatoes last summer... and 16
>>peppers. i am *not* obsessive! ;)
>>lee
>
> Well shoot...you should be able to squeeze in a few more of
> each, right? That little space over there, and, oh, that
> looks like a good place fr a couple of pots and....... ;-)

i have 62 acres, but the veggie garden is only about half an
acre. i have no problems sticking tomatoes & peppers in the
flower gardens though ;) and yes, i do grow some in pots &
buckets.
lee
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