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Old 19-03-2003, 06:44 PM
Claudio Fierro
 
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Hello, everybody (Is still somebody out there, it's so quite!)
I need help on rosemarys. Today I bought 2 plants on a local nursery
(not a bonsai nursery), because I loved the look of the bark. They have
very thin trunks, perhaps 1/2 or 3/4 inch. So I could use all the
advices you can give me on training rosemarys (including urls on the
issue).
Thanks a lot.

P.D.: So most of you lucky guys have now spring...
Claudio Fierro Neudörfer, Chile.
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Old 20-03-2003, 03:32 AM
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I am not sure if rosemary is the plant I am thinking about, but outside the
bank I use there is a plant that has the same type foliage that rosemary at
my local nursery. The bark is real textured and flaky with deep fissures in
it. If that is in fact rosemary I would also be interested in learning more
about it for possible bonsai use. Good luck in your search.

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Old 20-03-2003, 03:32 AM
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Hello, everybody (Is still somebody out there, it's so quite!)
I need help on rosemarys. Today I bought 2 plants on a local
nursery
(not a bonsai nursery), because I loved the look of the bark.
They have
very thin trunks, perhaps 1/2 or 3/4 inch. So I could use all the
advices you can give me on training rosemarys (including urls on
the
issue).

=============

I would recommend that you plant the rosemary in your garden for
2-4 years and let them grow a bit fatter. You can always use the
leaves to season your dinners while the plant grows.

As they grow in the yard, you can do some shaping of the top
(saving everything you cut, of course ;-)

Rosemary do not like a lot of work on their roots at any one
time. They also do not like a lot of water. Keep them in full
sun.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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Old 20-03-2003, 03:32 AM
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I am not sure if rosemary is the plant I am thinking about, but
outside the
bank I use there is a plant that has the same type foliage that

rosemary at
my local nursery. The bark is real textured and flaky with deep

fissures in
it. If that is in fact rosemary I would also be interested in

learning more
about it for possible bonsai use. Good luck in your search.

It is VERY easy to identify rosemary. Simply run your fingers up
a branch, then sniff them. Rosemary has a most exquisite smell.
I normally detest perfumes (some can send me to bed) but I've
always liked the smell of rosemary and have wondered why it
wasn't used in perfumes.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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Old 20-03-2003, 03:44 AM
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Thanks Jim for the advice; it's a pitty I live in a department, but I
already planted my two stocks in training pots with good drainage. I
noticed the trees have very steaf trunks, so I would like to know how
to proceed for styling the tree. Should I wait, just cut back expecting
new growth and thikening of the branches and trunk, or should I begin
wireing it now, with an preconcived form? Sorry if my questions are
that vague, but I'm new on this an until now all my experience has been
won with many painfull mistakes (painfull beacuse I really hate to make
a mess of a tree, LIFE MUST BE RESPECTED!)
Regards.
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Old 20-03-2003, 01:20 PM
Jim Lewis
 
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Thanks Jim for the advice; it's a pitty I live in a department,
but I
already planted my two stocks in training pots with good
drainage. I
noticed the trees have very steaf trunks, so I would like to know
how
to proceed for styling the tree. Should I wait, just cut back
expecting
new growth and thikening of the branches and trunk, or should I
begin
wireing it now, with an preconcived form? Sorry if my questions
are
that vague, but I'm new on this an until now all my experience
has been
won with many painfull mistakes (painfull beacuse I really hate
to make
a mess of a tree, LIFE MUST BE RESPECTED!)

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I wouldn't do much more than clip-and-grow for a few years. You
are intent upon fattening the trunks, now.

jim lewis - Tallahassee, FL

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Old 20-03-2003, 02:20 PM
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In message 000701c2ee7c$d4d9e3c0$874aabcd@computer, Neal Ross
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I am not sure if rosemary is the plant I am thinking about,


Rosemary is a herb (at least in the UK) and it has very fragrant perfume
with quite distinctive shaped leaf. Slim and definitely pointed. As I
am really no gardener believe you me, this is one of the few plants I do
recognise. Do herbs work as bonsai?

Sincerely, Chris
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Old 20-03-2003, 02:20 PM
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In message 000d01c2ee8d$46ef9120$e2122cc7@pavilion, Jim Lewis
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always liked the smell of rosemary and have wondered why it
wasn't used in perfumes.

Its used in herbal extracts and in aromatherapy products - and in the UK
we use it extensively to flavour lamb dishes.

I've had one growing very successfully in a pot for years and eventually
decided to put it in the garden where it is now quite happily a shrub
more than a plant.

Sincerely, Chris
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Old 20-03-2003, 03:08 PM
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Rosemary is a herb (at least in the UK) and it has very fragrant perfume
with quite distinctive shaped leaf. Slim and definitely pointed. As I
am really no gardener believe you me, this is one of the few plants I do
recognise. Do herbs work as bonsai?

Sincerely, Chris


Rosemary is a shrub in its native habitat, the Mediterranean, and has
wonderful properties for bonsai.... attractive shreddy red bark,
leaves and flowers to scale, wonderful aroma, easily buds back.....
except it is hard to keep alive outside of its proper zone. For me,
that is. If I keep it outside in zone 6.5, it will live about 4
years before a cold spell kills it. If I bring it indoors, its fussy
water requirements eventually defeat me. I finally stopped trying,
although I'm moving to zone 7, and perhaps I'll be able to keep one
then.
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Old 20-03-2003, 06:56 PM
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At 02:11 PM 3/19/2003 -0400, Claudio Fierro wrote:
Hello, everybody (Is still somebody out there, it's so quite!)
I need help on rosemarys. Today I bought 2 plants on a local nursery (not
a bonsai nursery), because I loved the look of the bark. They have very
thin trunks, perhaps 1/2 or 3/4 inch. So I could use all the advices you
can give me on training rosemarys (including urls on the issue).


Claudio,
Brent has an excellent article at his site:
http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/rosemary.htm

Jim Harwood
Zone 7b, Hot Springs, AR

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Old 21-03-2003, 03:44 AM
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Nina Shishkoff wrote:

Rosemary is a shrub in its native habitat, the Mediterranean, and has
wonderful properties for bonsai.... except it is hard to keep alive outside of
its proper zone. For me, that is. If I keep it outside in zone 6.5, it will
live about 4
years before a cold spell kills it. If I bring it indoors, its fussy
water requirements eventually defeat me.


I've heard before that rosemary is difficult to keep alive indoors, but that has
not been my experience. I bring them in at about the same time as my serissa, when
temperatures are dropping into the 30's F, and put them under lights in my cool
(50's) basement. They are not bonsai, and are in good, light potting soil. I water
them when I think of it, which works out to about every week or two, and under this
benign neglect they do just fine. I just moved them back outdoors, and one of them
was in bloom. The other had been severely cut back in the fall, and didn't bloom
this winter, but survived and appears healthy.

Jay
Zone 5-ish, Michigan

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Old 21-03-2003, 02:56 PM
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I give my rosemary the same winter care as Jay and it seems to thrive also.

Doug Taylor
Zone 5 Mass.

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temperatures are dropping into the 30's F, and put them under lights in my

cool
(50's) basement. They are not bonsai, and are in good, light potting soil.

I water
them when I think of it, which works out to about every week or two, and

under this
benign neglect they do just fine. I just moved them back outdoors, and one

of them
was in bloom. The other had been severely cut back in the fall, and didn't

bloom
this winter, but survived and appears healthy.

Jay
Zone 5-ish, Michigan


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