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bonsai from seed
Hi there,
This is my first post, so we'll see how this goes. I want to start some seeds, but I am concerned about the sprouts damping off and dying on me. Is there something I can do to help avoid this? The seeds I am going to plant a Wisteria sinensis (Chinese Wisteria), and Wisteria sinensis Alba (White Wisteria). I think they look beautiful and would really like to try growing them. Are there any special instructions that apply to treating the seeds to get them to germinate? I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. |
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Michael Cameron wrote: Hi there, This is my first post, so we'll see how this goes. I want to start some seeds, but I am concerned about the sprouts damping off and dying on me. Is there something I can do to help avoid this? The seeds I am going to plant a Wisteria sinensis (Chinese Wisteria), and Wisteria sinensis Alba (White Wisteria). I think they look beautiful and would really like to try growing them. Are there any special instructions that apply to treating the seeds to get them to germinate? I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. I gues your climate is not the best one for these seeds and you are far too early in the season secondly seeds are often weak and are attacked by a lot of pests and only few survive third this is why a grafted plant or an adult forom nursery is generally more strong to survive forth some seeds as impollinated with whatever have some glitches and do not germinate properly Winsteria is not a native from Canada so I guess more hard to germinate and survive in a such cold climate -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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Start with a sterilized soil base, i.e. Perlite. If you have the time, you
could use builder's sand (coarse), but you'll need to sterilize it in your oven. Once your seeds start to grow and you want to transplant them, Use a pencil to ease the roots out. Don't just pull them out. Try not to touch the stems. If you must touch the seedlings, hold them by the leaves. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cameron" To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:14 PM Subject: [IBC] bonsai from seed Hi there, This is my first post, so we'll see how this goes. I want to start some seeds, but I am concerned about the sprouts damping off and dying on me. Is there something I can do to help avoid this? The seeds I am going to plant a Wisteria sinensis (Chinese Wisteria), and Wisteria sinensis Alba (White Wisteria). I think they look beautiful and would really like to try growing them. Are there any special instructions that apply to treating the seeds to get them to germinate? I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Hi there, This is my first post, so we'll see how this goes. I want to start some seeds, but I am concerned about the sprouts damping off and dying on me. Is there something I can do to help avoid this? The seeds I am going to plant a Wisteria sinensis (Chinese Wisteria), and Wisteria sinensis Alba (White Wisteria). I think they look beautiful and would really like to try growing them. Are there any special instructions that apply to treating the seeds to get them to germinate? I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. On 30 Jan 2005 at 16:15, Marty Haber wrote: Start with a sterilized soil base, i.e. Perlite. If you have the time, you could use builder's sand (coarse), but you'll need to sterilize it in your oven. Once your seeds start to grow and you want to transplant them, Use a pencil to ease the roots out. Don't just pull them out. Try not to touch the stems. If you must touch the seedlings, hold them by the leaves. ====== In addition to Marty's advice, I'd add that _I_ have had difficulty getting wisteria seeds to germinate (not that I've tried that many). Dirr says if seeds are dry and hard, soaking them in water for 24 hours is best (so maybe that's my problem). he says they germinate readily. I dunno about Alba; I think the white wisteria aren't very attractive. I don't know where you are going to grow them up there; they won't survive outdoors and probably will do poorly (and will never bloom) indoors. But it will be at LEAST 10 years before a wisteria-from-seed even thinks about blooming, anyway. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Michael Cameron wrote: Hi there, This is my first post, so we'll see how this goes. I want to start some seeds, but I am concerned about the sprouts damping off and dying on me. Is there something I can do to help avoid this? The seeds I am going to plant a Wisteria sinensis (Chinese Wisteria), and Wisteria sinensis Alba (White Wisteria). I think they look beautiful and would really like to try growing them. Are there any special instructions that apply to treating the seeds to get them to germinate? I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. I had good growing Wisteria from seeds. What I did was roll up some filter paper with the seeds between the layers, and stick one end of it into a narrow tube of water. After a good root shot out of it, I planted it in dirt. I can't tell you how a Wisteria will do in your climate. I've heard that they don't flower for around 5 years after you plant them, so plan on being patient. |
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On 31 Jan 2005 at 15:40, Scooter the Mighty wrote:
Michael Cameron wrote: I know starting from seeds is a slow process, that's fine. I have 2 other trees that I have growing, and 2 cuttings I'm taking this spring. Thanks for any advice you could provide. Happy Bonsai, from Loretto (north of Toronto), Ontario, Canada. I had good growing Wisteria from seeds. What I did was roll up some filter paper with the seeds between the layers, and stick one end of it into a narrow tube of water. After a good root shot out of it, I planted it in dirt. I can't tell you how a Wisteria will do in your climate. I've heard that they don't flower for around 5 years after you plant them, so plan on being patient. Make that 10 years, if then. So plan on being VERY patient. ;- ) Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I can't tell you how a Wisteria will do in your climate. I've heard that they don't flower for around 5 years after you plant them, so plan on being patient. Make that 10 years, if then. So plan on being VERY patient. ;- ) Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson I know that experiences vary on this and to say "10 years, if then" is only going to discourage people who may have a better experience than you. I happen to have a Wisteria sinensis that I started from seed and it had its first bloom at 6 inches tall and a grand old age of 5 years old. Last year it turned 6 and bloomed once in the spring and once in the late summer. I have kept the pot small and this seems to work very well. Because of this, I have not had to prune it AT ALL and it is forming a nice windswept style at this point at about 8 inches tall with three well places branches. I am very excited about the future of this plant and encourage ANYONE to try Wisteria from seed. |
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figaro wrote: I can't tell you how a Wisteria will do in your climate. I've heard that they don't flower for around 5 years after you plant them, so plan on being patient. Make that 10 years, if then. So plan on being VERY patient. ;- ) Jim Lewis - - This economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson I know that experiences vary on this and to say "10 years, if then" is only going to discourage people who may have a better experience than you. I happen to have a Wisteria sinensis that I started from seed and it had its first bloom at 6 inches tall and a grand old age of 5 years old. Last year it turned 6 and bloomed once in the spring and once in the late summer. I have kept the pot small and this seems to work very well. yes teher are two things with winsteria to keep the roots *in small* containers and thirsty it a little before blooming season I had one grafted many years ago and I do not remember what I did with :-) but I kept for 2 years and than got bored Because of this, I have not had to prune it AT ALL and it is forming a nice windswept style at this point at about 8 inches tall with three well places branches. I am very excited about the future of this plant and encourage ANYONE to try Wisteria from seed. -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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