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Some pepper questions
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:24:30 -0700, Billy wrote: So, I presume your funky shui thing doesn't include seed saving OR are the beds 500' apart, or do you bag, or cage? Fertility and entropy make purity difficult. Think I can get my funky shui aligned if I just rotate the hill 45 degrees to the west and invert the slope. No, I'm not saving pepper seeds this year, for several reasons, proximity to one another the prime reason, I have lots of different pepper varieties in cold storage, I wanted to try a bunch of new ones this year to determine habits and yield, etc....and..... I think next year I'll have to start baggin' some of the squash, cucumber, tomato and, the pepper flowers. I definitly need to reduce the number of varieties and sweet peppers and tomatoes will be the most difficult to reduce in number. Sweet millions cherry tomato was the first to produce and has set a large crop to ripen ) and they are definitely competitive in quality with store bought ( Unfortunately, it, the Sun Gold, and the Yellow Pear have collapsed on my dwarf Meyer lemon trees, which they are now using for an arbor. My damned labels faded when I transferred them outside this spring and other than six varieties, I dont have a ****in' clue what most of them are yet and may have a hard time figgerin' it out.... Seems we have similar administrative skills vis-a-vis identifying and marking. Fortunately, most of my herbs are perennials and I'm starting to get a handle on what they look like. Gnnna be some good eatin' though! ;-) Monapa spinach seed is being harvested now and have a big old Nimba Zuke conditioning for seed. Going to save at least one tomato, Black Brandywine, which is delicious and looks to be more productive than the regular Brandywine and a more compact, less vining plant than the regular. How did you manage to save pure seed from the Black Brandywine? Think I'll cut back to three types of tomatoes; cherry, mid-sized, and large. Unfortunately, the selection won't just be just based on taste but the visual spectacle, via the different colors, as well. Saving the Empress beans and Rattlesnake pole beans. Have sevearl varieties of lettuce and the Mizuna making seed and the Love Lies Bleeding Amaranth is being saved and going to be used in landscaping next year. Not as flashy as your amaranth, but I like the spectacle of my dent corn towering 12 - 14 feet up into the air. Now I just need to refine my processing skills to turn it into grits. Planted four varieties of cukes, so they are out for saving seed, but if the danged Armenian "cuke" ever produces anything other than lots of vine and a gazillion blossoms and if we like, will save it. Same here. It's a decorative sucker but I wish it would get of the pot. THe vining 'tunias save themselves quite well. Mine were sluggish in their sphagnum rich germinating soil. Then they got into the program, when I put them into regular potting soil. Now they've locked up again with potting soil in sphagnum lined hanging pots( Gotta run and try and get some outdoor stuff done before the heat gets up there and then spend the hot time taking care of business and trying to makes sense of this mess of an "office"....... Ha, I was lookin' for "Seed to Seed" yesterday when I finally spotted it in my room/office/log. Only trouble was, there wasn't anyway to get to it safely( The resulting tale would be worthy of Indiana Jones. Speakin' of gardening, for a change, I see that your evening temps are running about 20 F higher than here. Yesterday we had a temperature swing from 52 F to 97 F. It's a miracle everyone doesn't have the flu. Gardez la foi, le Frère Charlie jusqu'à la prochaine "The number of people out there today seriously worried about the health of all the plants and seeds on which modern agriculture depends must be very limited, and the number of people actively campaigning to protect them vanishingly few. ... Of the Earth's 250,000 plant species, only 200 are cultivated for food on any serious scale." "Even more extraordinary, the vast majority of the world's food comes from just 20 crops, in just eight plant families. Most of these monocultures are dangerously vulnerable to diseases (both old and new), pest infestations, and a rapidly changing climate." "Yet the "genetic pool" on which plant breeders might need to draw to build resistance and adaptability is being constantly eroded as older, non-commercial varieties disappear. ..." "[S]eed banks can only do so much in this massive salvage operation. The seeds they store need to regularly germinated, otherwise they too die. The best way of maintaining an active and vibrant seed bank is to ensure that farmers (and gardeners) are planting out those 'land races' and rare varieties of plants which are now so endangered." "More often than not, that sets small-scale, subsistence farmers (on whom this kind of "active conservation" depends) in conflict with the juggernaut of industrialised, intensive agriculture."" ~~Jonathan Porritt, founder and director of Forum for the Future, in the Nov. 7, 2007 edition of BBC News -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Charlie wrote:
No, I'm not saving pepper seeds this year, for several reasons, proximity to one another the prime reason, I have lots of different pepper varieties in cold storage, I wanted to try a bunch of new ones this year to determine habits and yield, etc....and..... My damned labels faded when I transferred them outside this spring and other than six varieties, I dont have a ****in' clue what most of them are yet and may have a hard time figgerin' it out.... snip Hi, If you are using something that can be written on for labels, a #2 pencil will not fade. Enjoy the peppers. HTH -_- how -- no NEWS is good |
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In article , Charlie wrote:
What effect does treated water have upon soil microbes? Charlie Depending on the chlorine levels, it probably sets them back a bit if it come straight from the pipe but chlorine is very reactive and probably gets sponged up quickly by the organics (thus buffering [in the generic sense] its' effects on the critters). Just figures that the critters evolved with rain water and standing water and that would have to be best. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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In article , Charlie wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:16:32 -0700, Billy wrote: In article , Charlie wrote: What effect does treated water have upon soil microbes? Charlie Depending on the chlorine levels, it probably sets them back a bit if it come straight from the pipe but chlorine is very reactive and probably gets sponged up quickly by the organics (thus buffering [in the generic sense] its' effects on the critters). Just figures that the critters evolved with rain water and standing water and that would have to be best. OK, that is a *bit* reassuring. So, one might benefit from the addition of compost tea to counteract the effect of chlorinated water? Our water comes from a water tower, 1/3 mile from our home, after a two mile trip from the treatment plant. I'm gonna check chlorine levels now....hang on....... OK...I've got .75 ppm chlorine. Whaddaya think. Scientific wildass guesses are acceptable. I be no chemistryist, ya know. Charlie Whatcha lookin' fo' dog? EPA guidelines allow up to 4 parts per million (ppm) of chlorine in municipal tap water. We find this allowance alarming, since a standard pool test kit shows that levels above 3 ppm are not safe to swim in! http://www.aquasanastore.com/water-faq_b07.html http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise.../watintro.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_purification The FDA relies on state and local government agencies to approve water sources for safety and sanitary quality, as specified in part 129.3(a). Also, some states have regulations that differ from FDA's in content or coverage. For example, Texas requires water haulers transporting water in a tank truck or trailer to maintain a minimum chlorine residual of 0.5 mg/L in the water, whereas FDA does not have any specific regulations requiring chlorination of water. http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/bo****r.html This is also reflected in Cl. max. for dialysis water. http://www.mdsr.ecri.org/summary/det...px?doc_id=8175 If'n you wants to hit the panic button, read here. http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journa...ience/kb_chlor ine.html If'n you wants to be reassured, there is this from down under. http://www.waterquality.crc.org.au/D...Water_Safe.pdf Finally,The amount of residual chlorine permitted in water effluents varies from one facility to another. Normally the allowable amount of chlorine is typically less than about 100 micrograms per liter as "total" chlorine. http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/53...scription.html I don'ts wants to be talkin' down to you dog, cause I likes my body the way that it is (with nuthin' cut off) but to put this into perspective mg/liter = ppm. Hope you finds somethin' useful in this missive. Well, time to go get the cork outten my breakfast. I just hates to eat on an empty stomach;o) -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Some pepper questions
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:49 -0500, Omelet
wrote: In article , " wrote: On Jul 25, 12:03*pm, Omelet wrote: In article , " wrote: Hi, This year I decided to grow some peppers and I have a few questions. I have 2 types of peppers growing. *Small red bell peppers and also Cayenne peppers. *I already picked one of the little bell bell peppers and it was extremely hot!!! *I accidentaly touched my eyes after eating it and my eyes were burning. [..] lol Bell peppers get to be about 4" or so across and tall. Wonder if you grew Habaneros? Those (aka "Scotch bonnets") are one of the hotter peppers! For mild peppers, I prefer anaheims. They are great stuffed and made into chili rellenos. Most hot peppers get fed to my cockatoo. She loves them and they are a great source of vitamin C for her. Cascabel perhaps? |
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Some pepper questions
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:24:30 -0700, Billy
wrote: So, I presume your funky shui thing doesn't include seed saving OR are the beds 500' apart, or do you bag, or cage? Fertility and entropy make purity difficult. Think I can get my funky shui aligned if I just rotate the hill 45 degrees to the west and invert the slope. Not Charlie, but I like to play... I also have planted all of my peppers close enough to touch. They seem to like companionship. I tried a couple of years ago to bring my peppers in and overwinter them, but a surprise frost kind of bit me a bit and I also forgot about watering them for too long. I'm going to give it a serious try this year, and also maybe try some leaf node cuttings with the plastic bag trick (sorry, don;'t know the official name for it). |
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