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Newsgroups dead? Was: pantry moths?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:52:24 -0500, "len"
wrote: I just miss your posts that's all, I figured you had been spammed out existance. Len Thanks for the nice words! Sadly, I've just about decided that Usenet newsgroups are no longer worth it: too many spammers, trolls, stalkers, other problems (including the surreptitious harvesting of whole groups for commercial websites), very poor noise/signal ratio, etc. etc. I have participated in Usenet newsgroups for over 15 years, but I just don't think (right now) that they are any longer a productive use of time. So I've pretty much switched to mailing lists instead. I still read this group from time to time. I skipped the whole eternal cross-posted thread.... ugh. That was a beautiful, perhaps classic, example of why I don't think newsgroups a worthwhile use of time at present. Maybe I'll change my mind in the future, but right now, that's how I see it. If you want to know my recommendations for mailing lists, please email me privately. My address in this message is real. Cheers! Pat Copyright © 2003 Patricia Meadows All Rights Reserved |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:41:36 GMT, Jim Elbrecht
wrote: wrote: -snip- Sadly, I've just about decided that Usenet newsgroups are no longer worth it: too many spammers, trolls, stalkers, other problems (including the surreptitious harvesting of whole groups for commercial websites), very poor noise/signal ratio, etc. etc. I don't know how anyone reads most groups these days without a filter that eliminates crossposts. I use nfilter - no longer at So I've pretty much switched to mailing lists instead. I still read this group from time to time. I skipped the whole eternal cross-posted thread.... ugh. That was a beautiful, perhaps classic, example of why I don't think newsgroups a worthwhile use of time at present. Even without crossposts- after about 30 posts threads are rarely productive, so I just killfile them when they get too far afield. Sorry, I wasn't very clear about that. I have an excellent news program (Agent). I wasn't referring to seeing the cross-posted thread in more than one newsgroup. I was referring to the fact that cross-posting is notoriously indulged in by trolls (as well as sometimes by non-trolls) and cross-posted threads tend to degenerate fairly quickly into hostility and insult-slinging with no redeeming value -- as indeed, the one here recently did. Pat -- To email me, remove the spam trap and type my first name in its place. CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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I have participated in Usenet newsgroups for over 15 years, but I just don't think (right now) that they are any longer a productive use of time. So I've pretty much switched to mailing lists instead. I still read this group from time to time. I skipped the whole eternal cross-posted thread.... ugh. That was a beautiful, perhaps classic, example of why I don't think newsgroups a worthwhile use of time at present. Several of my favorites seem to be degenerating, too. I hang in, hoping regulars will learn not to feed the trolls and the obscene children will get tired of their games and go away. A somewhat chatty group, like rec.gardens, *does* tend to wander off-topic. Moderated groups (like rec.food.recipes) are much tidier, but a little dull. :-) I thought the "self-sufficiency" thread was originally rather thought-provoking. And of course, relevant to .edible. However, unmoderated debate always seems to attract insult-hurlers. Stick around, Pat. We can all use reports from the *real* trenches. |
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:30:21 GMT, Frogleg
wrote: Stick around, Pat. We can all use reports from the *real* trenches. I'm sorry, I can't do that. I am trying to earn a little money by doing some cooking and gardening writing. I can write to mailing lists or newsgroups to get my thoughts organized, and I enjoy doing it. This is often the beginning of a potentially saleable article. It would seem a win-win situation. But I cannot do so when my writings are taken in their entirety and published on someone's commercial website. This could be thought to constitute 'prior publication' and it detracts greatly from my chances of selling an article. Most editors want articles that have not been published elsewhere. Anyway, happy holidays! Pat Copyright © 2003 Patricia Meadows All Rights Reserved -- To email me, remove the spam trap and type my first name in its place. CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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