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Henriette Kress wrote:
DigitalVinyl wrote: Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming. You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them. You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf. Never grown before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic petunia seeds. You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that have split are one seed. I've bought ground coriander. Henriette DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 2nd year gardener |
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Henriette Kress wrote:
DigitalVinyl wrote: Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming. You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them. You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf. Never grown before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic petunia seeds. You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that have split are one seed. I've bought ground coriander. Henriette DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 2nd year gardener |
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il Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:54:06 GMT, Frogleg ha scritto:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria" wrote: Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions? (I'm having a funny mental image of a healthy cilantro plant suddenly collapsing like a cartoon weed after RoundUp.) Here's a site that discusses 'how to grow' clearly. http://chefsgarden.com/Cilantro.htm heh, slow motion more like it. :-) -- Cheers, Loki [ Brevity is the soul of wit. W.Shakespeare ] |
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"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message ... "Ray Drouillard" wrote: My usual problem is to keep it from going to seed. Once it starts to bolt, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, once it starts to bolt, the flavor gets stronger and the stems get tougher. Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming. My problem is I have no clue what we're talking about. Never grown before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic petunia seeds. It could have a habit like dill with dozens of seeds per floret and a dozen florets per plant. I will squeeze in what I can--yes I am limited by land and what I'm willing to maintain. Have to check on the growth habit--don't know what spacing they prefer. You can buy the whole seeds in some spice markets, or you can buy a package of seeds. Either way, you'll be able to get a good look at what you'll be harvesting in a couple months. The seeds look like little grayish-brown balls perhaps 3 mm in diameter. Ray |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. |
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Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:22:43 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote: Frogleg wrote: Henriette Kress wrote: Frogleg wrote: will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds. Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come in pairs. Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery, and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and contains two seeds. Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others. The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together. "Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture caption)... http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katz...?Cori_sat.html "Coriander, an umbelliferous plant indigenous to southern Europe"..."The fruit (so-called seeds) are of globular form, beaked, finely ribbed, yellowish-brown 1/5 inch in diameter, with five longitudinal ridges, separable into two halves (the mericarps), each of which is concave internally and shows two broad, longitudinal oil cells (vittae)." http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/c/corian99.html "Coriander (Coriandrum sativum L.) is an annual herb that belongs to the carrot family (Umbelliferae)."..."The small white or pink flowers are borne in compound umbels that measure approximately 1.6 in. (4 cm) across. The fruits are nearly globular and consist of two, single-seeded mericarp" http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex121?opendocument "Technically, these are the fruits, not the seeds, of coriander" (caption for a picture of coriander fruit/seed) Lovely pictures on this page, BTW. http://web.odu.edu/webroot/instr/sci...ages/coriander "The fruit of the coriander plant contains two seeds " http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=70 Umbelliferae n : plants having flowers in umbels: parsley; carrot; anise; caraway; celery; dill http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Umbelliferae Umbel n: A flat-topped or rounded flower cluster in which the individual flower stalks arise from about the same point, as in the geranium, milkweed, onion, and chive. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Umbel |
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Frogleg wrote: "Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture caption)... Good job. I think it's time to rest your case. As a member of the jury, I now see the light. Steve |
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Frogleg wrote: "Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture caption)... Good job. I think it's time to rest your case. As a member of the jury, I now see the light. Steve |
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Frogleg wrote:
Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae. Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others. Pelargonium is in the Geraniaceae. The Geraniaceae family is in the order Geraniales, class Magnoliopsida. The Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) family is in the order Apiales, class Magnoliopsida. Apiaceae and Geraniaceae aren't all that closely related, botanically. They're certainly far enough apart that a botanist who'd suggest that Pelargonium belongs in the Apiaceae would be laughed out of the room. Carrot has two seeds, stuck together; they separate when they mature. Ditto for parsley, dill, celery and pretty much any Apiaceae I've seen so far. Sure, they come in single seeds in your seed packet, and in single seeds in your spice jar, but they grow in pairs, and mature in pairs. Here's a nice illustration of your average umbellifer seed: http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/see.gif It's at the top of Howie's page: http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html Like I said, please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet. Thanks Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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