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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
Dustin
 
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Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?

Thanks!

Dustin


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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:51:09 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second


Sounds the same as my reactor, so I'd bet that low water flow is the
problem.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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Hi Chuck!
Actually I think your site is the one I got the plans from...
So more flow is the solution?

Thanks!
"Chuck Gadd" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:51:09 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second


Sounds the same as my reactor, so I'd bet that low water flow is the
problem.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua



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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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I've just got Dupla reactor 400. It is a co2 reactor.
I've tried the DYI gravel based reactor, but this dupla thing works like a
dream!
There is a plastic cascade that water falls through and dissolves co2 so
efficiently!
And it looks very cool too.
Had to pay a small fortune for it though.


"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Hi Chuck!
Actually I think your site is the one I got the plans from...
So more flow is the solution?

Thanks!
"Chuck Gadd" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:51:09 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second


Sounds the same as my reactor, so I'd bet that low water flow is the
problem.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua





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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second


If I have understood you correctly, it's mounted the wrong way around.

Normaly the reactor is mounted at the filter outflow. (Have seen
systems doing it the otherway around though.)

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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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Well I worded that wrong then

The output flow from teh filter, is what is going into the gravel vac..

Its all setup right - I guess there just isnt enough current.

Thanks for the input though

Dustin

"Trygve Lillefosse" wrote in message
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I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second


If I have understood you correctly, it's mounted the wrong way around.

Normaly the reactor is mounted at the filter outflow. (Have seen
systems doing it the otherway around though.)

SEE YA !!!

Malawi, The Fisher King - Ruler Of The World
Conquering the world for YOU since 1972.
Remove nospam to mail me.



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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:51:09 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Are you using a canister filter? If so head on over to
www.aquabotanic.com and look at their DIY forum. There are some great
DIY reactor ideas over there using PVC pipe. I have built three of
them and they work great.

Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?

Thanks!

Dustin


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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?


First I thought of Doing It Myself. But later I found a cheap internal
filter DJ50 (US $12.00).
It has a airline inlet which is for mixing air with water. I am injecting
CO2 in it.

http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html




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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
Dustin
 
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Hi Cannibul!

Actually I did something simular to the pvc idea that hardly worked haha -
So i added the in tank DIY of the gravel cleaner with it - I just dont think
there is enough water flow. I think my options are 1 - take out some of the
media to make the water flow faster in the magnum 350 *its older, could the
magnet need replaced?*

Or run a powerhead directly into the top of the in tank part..

Any Thoughts?

Thanks!@

Dustin
"Cannibul" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:51:09 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Are you using a canister filter? If so head on over to
www.aquabotanic.com and look at their DIY forum. There are some great
DIY reactor ideas over there using PVC pipe. I have built three of
them and they work great.

Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?

Thanks!

Dustin




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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
Dustin
 
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Thanks Aqua! This is looking better all the time
"Aqua" wrote in message
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I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?


First I thought of Doing It Myself. But later I found a cheap internal
filter DJ50 (US $12.00).
It has a airline inlet which is for mixing air with water. I am injecting
CO2 in it.

http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html








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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
 
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"Dustin" wrote in message ...
Hi THere,

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?

Thanks!

Dustin


To adjust for a pre set level:
Drill a 3/16inch hole and put a 1/2 piece of rigid vinyl tubing in
this hole.
Measure down from the top how far you want to have this level be eg 3
inches etc.
Now drill another hole the same size and add another piece of rigid
vinyl tubing , attach a piece of airline to the powerhead's venturi.
Now when the level gets down to that point, the bubbles will get very
fine and the the unit will waste the CO2 since it's now in excess.

If you keep adding CO2(eg too much) the excess will "Burp" out the
other 3/16" hole.

You can also turn your CO2 off this way with out touching the flow
rate or stopping the DIY yeast etc, the excess will go out the burp
tube and when the power head is "off", no CO2 is diffused into the
tank.
I simply plug my powerhead into the lighting timer.
CO2 comes on only when you need it.

Those two adjustments really improve the performance.

Regards,
Tom Barr
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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
Dave
 
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"Aqua" empowered us with this mighty blow
against the Patriarchy:

I've followed the basic idea -
Flow input to a vaccum from a gravel cleaner -
bio balls
sponge at the bottom.
1 bubble per second

Problem is the canister fills with co2 - like an air pocket of Co2 -

Is this because there is not enough water flow or ?


First I thought of Doing It Myself. But later I found a cheap internal
filter DJ50 (US $12.00).
It has a airline inlet which is for mixing air with water. I am injecting
CO2 in it.


FWIW, I was doing the same thing but found that I got greater CO2
saturation by running the CO2 line into the strainer at the bottom of the
DJ50 (versus connecting it to the airline inlet).

I also tried redirecting some of the output back to the input by cutting a
notch out of the side of a plastic cup and fitting the cup, upside down,
over the DJ50 ... that was also an improvement but looked ugly.

Of course none of this matters if you're getting enough CO2 with your
setup. ;-) Just an FYI for others who might try the DJ50.
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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:11:40 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Hi Cannibul!

Actually I did something simular to the pvc idea that hardly worked haha -
So i added the in tank DIY of the gravel cleaner with it - I just dont think
there is enough water flow. I think my options are 1 - take out some of the
media to make the water flow faster in the magnum 350 *its older, could the
magnet need replaced?*

Or run a powerhead directly into the top of the in tank part..

Any Thoughts?



Just run the CO2 into the intake of your Magnum. They make great
reactors.

You should have had enough flow with the Magnum to make the external
reactor work. What size PVC did you build it out of?
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Old 20-04-2003, 06:20 AM
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1/2 inch

Thanks

"Cannibul" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:11:40 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Hi Cannibul!

Actually I did something simular to the pvc idea that hardly worked

haha -
So i added the in tank DIY of the gravel cleaner with it - I just dont

think
there is enough water flow. I think my options are 1 - take out some of

the
media to make the water flow faster in the magnum 350 *its older, could

the
magnet need replaced?*

Or run a powerhead directly into the top of the in tank part..

Any Thoughts?



Just run the CO2 into the intake of your Magnum. They make great
reactors.

You should have had enough flow with the Magnum to make the external
reactor work. What size PVC did you build it out of?



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