Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.



The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.



I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.



Now to the questions.



1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?



2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.





Thanks, bob

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Billy


"First Name" wrote in message
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Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.


I had this initially as well. Sorry you had such bad luck.

billy

Bob, don 't give up, you have already started the road to keeping live
plants. Email me and will try to help.
Wilma
"First Name" wrote in message
news:RLCwa.45317$MJ5.25726@fed1read03...
Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.



The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.



I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank
but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.



Now to the questions.



1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?



2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess
I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.





Thanks, bob

"First Name" wrote:

Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.
The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.

I've killed quite a few myself. It can certainly be frustrating
starting out.

1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?

Yes. While Flourite is ideal for growing plants, in all other respects
just treat it as any other gravel. And since it's expensive, I'd
recommend that even if you decide to remove it from your tank (to
replace with another color, for example) that you keep it, or give it
to another hobbyist. No point in throwing such valuable stuff away.

2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.

No point in having it on an unplanted tank.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

Bob,

I'm going to be wanting 3 of the Hagen CO2 Plant Gro units soon, so if
you've truly decided to give up on plants, e-mail me and maybe we can work
something out on this.

However, I would encourage you to try again. I, too, can kill anything green
(including cacti), except algae (which wouldn't die no matter how hard I tried
to kill it), and I'm still trying. (Hmm, maybe I should try to kill the plants
and try to keep the algae alive, and things will reverse as seems to be usual
for me.)

Personally, I think a planted tank is so much prettier to look at, and I
know the fish like it better, than even one with lots of artificial decorations.
Plastic plants still look fake, and they're certainly not as flexible as real
plants to provide hiding places, besides, most people don't put in enough fake
plants to really give shelter. And the other decorations just aren't natural at
all.

Christina

First Name wrote:

Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.

The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.

I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.

Now to the questions.

1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?

2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.

Thanks, bob

--
Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.
--Dylan Thomas

Don't give up yet. The plant she sold you may not have been suitable for
your tank ? Just because it grows like a weed for some, doesn't mean, it
grows under your lighting, waterhardness, fertilizers (the ones coming for
free with tap water included) etc.

I for one cannot keep Duckweed alive, no matter how hard I try, but all
other plants are doing fine.

I think a good start is, what kind of fish do you have ? What's you water
hardness and temperature, and what's your lighting like ?

I am sure we can go from there.

Greetings
Mad

Bob,

from 1st hand experience let me tell you of a "You can't really go wrong"
with this kind of plant, I bought a hygro. species, In theory I should not
have been able to kill this plant, it did well for the 2st 2 months then
died off, I transfered it to another tank with more light, it disappeared
completely, I moved, and 3 months later after the move, about 8 months
after the plant disappeared I have the entire 1/3 of the tank choked with
this plant.

"Never Give Up! Never Surrender"
Did Churchhill say that?

"First Name" wrote in
news:RLCwa.45317$MJ5.25726@fed1read03:

Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.



The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks
and probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.



I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant
tank but I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can
feed and minimal tank maintance.



Now to the questions.



1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?



2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I
guess I no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.





Thanks, bob

never surrender. i'm going to buy more plants this weekend. we've all had to.
and the ones who say they didn't either forgot or are lying. i had almost given
up, but i'm really stubborn. and now i have two rather pitiful looking plants. i
don't even know what they are. ironically enough, i selected the second one as a
nutritional supplement for the newts, but they don't much care for it - goes to
show what the LFS people know

.... and i know a bunch of people who've killed all kinds of plants, cacti
included (me included)... but not my sister, i've never known her to kill any
plant... except on purpose.

AcH

First Name wrote:

Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.

The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.

I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.

Now to the questions.

1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?

2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.

Thanks, bob

The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.

Never listen to 'some girl' in a LFS.

I killed everything too before I started to read newgroups and websites.
I almost gave up. I then found a selection of plants that would be good
for my tank setup, and crammed the tank full. An odd new plant is still
an experiement since I'm a newbie, some things just don't seem to take
when they should. However, I now certainly can grow stuff.

My first mistakes whe

1) Buying crappy LFS plants
2) Not packing the tank with plants when starting out to out compete
algae
3) Not giving plants a chance to establish (leaf drop when they are
transplated is not too uncommon and they can grow back, like crypts.

"First Name" wrote in message
news:RLCwa.45317$MJ5.25726@fed1read03...
Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.



The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.



I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank
but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.

Bob it could be your water.

Java fern doesn't die. Try that?

Dan

Java fern doesn't die. Try that?

Dan

It does in my tank, I am afraid.....Took me 3 tries as well, to keep Java
Moss alive...My Java Moss is now going mad and I have to keep cutting it,
but the 2 batches before died a slow death. Some of the same batch of moss
is now in one of our other tanks and is dying there. Java Ferns don't do
well in any of our tanks. They either don't grow, or don't grow and die.
Nothing in between.

A plant which is doing well in all our tanks is the Madagascar Lace Plant
though and Aponogentum Ulvaceus. Amazon swords can be hardy plants, or
Vallis.

Sounds like root feeders work for you...water collumn feeders dont.

Madpiano wrote:


Java fern doesn't die. Try that?

Dan

It does in my tank, I am afraid.....Took me 3 tries as well, to keep Java
Moss alive...My Java Moss is now going mad and I have to keep cutting it,
but the 2 batches before died a slow death. Some of the same batch of moss
is now in one of our other tanks and is dying there. Java Ferns don't do
well in any of our tanks. They either don't grow, or don't grow and die.
Nothing in between.

A plant which is doing well in all our tanks is the Madagascar Lace Plant
though and Aponogentum Ulvaceus. Amazon swords can be hardy plants, or
Vallis.

Could be true. I used to have Laterite in the floor. That's propably why the
root feeders did well, allthough crypts never did. They kind of didn't die,
but didn't do anything either.....

I now have a different tank. The Swords don't do well, but Java Moss and all
other plants have taken off. Oh well, never mind, as long as they are
growing.

Here is a pictu
http://www.pbase.com/image/15144670 just after it was set up in April

http://www.pbase.com/image/16483130 one month later, before pruning

http://www.pbase.com/image/16576341 after pruning it

Don't give up, you will find a plant which will take off, honestly.

Greetings
Mad
"Rich Conley" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds like root feeders work for you...water collumn feeders dont.

Madpiano wrote:


Java fern doesn't die. Try that?

Dan

It does in my tank, I am afraid.....Took me 3 tries as well, to keep
Java
Moss alive...My Java Moss is now going mad and I have to keep cutting
it,
but the 2 batches before died a slow death. Some of the same batch of
moss
is now in one of our other tanks and is dying there. Java Ferns don't do
well in any of our tanks. They either don't grow, or don't grow and die.
Nothing in between.

A plant which is doing well in all our tanks is the Madagascar Lace
Plant
though and Aponogentum Ulvaceus. Amazon swords can be hardy plants, or
Vallis.

On Wed, 14 May 2003 19:16:19 -0700, "First Name"
wrote:

If you gave us more info about your tank we could help more. How
large is the tank and how much light do you have? The most common
cause of plant death for people new to planted tanks is insufficient
light. The lights that come with most aquariums just don't cut it.

Everything that's green and I touch dies. No exception.



The girl in the fish store sold me some plant " A........." that looks and
probably is a weed and said no one can kill it. I killed it.



I know I can invest more time and lots more money into a live plant tank but
I'm not that interested. I'm just looking for some fish I can feed and
minimal tank maintance.



Now to the questions.



1) I have a 2" bed of "Flourite". Will I have to clean this as I would
gravel?



2) I have a Co2 generator Nutrafin Natural Plant System by Hagen. I guess I
no longer need this? If not $20 and shipping is included.





Thanks, bob

Try floating water sprite or frogbit or Salvinia.
These do well in most tanks. No need for CO2, extra light etc.

Regards,
Tom Barr