It appears from trying to apply what little brain power I have to some
of the info available on the web, that there is little one can
do(without extreme measure) to 'kill' a fairy ring. I have one that
encircles part of my lawn conatining roots from a Silverleaf Maple
removed 2 years ago (likely the food source for the fungus) and a 1.5
year old installation of a 30 gallon container sized lacebark Elm. The
Elm is doing quite well but lawn grass in the area is practically
exterminated. Any suggestions?

thanx

Carl

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Carl-
I have had a few fairy rings in my yard, and have grown to live with,
and love it (them). Interestingly, a fairy ring of a couple of years,
seems to have migrated to another spot, a few feet away.

I have a little gnome statutes. The one I have, is sleeping on his
back. I like placing him in the center of the ring! He looks like he
belongs there;-)

Myrl
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com




Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
It appears from trying to apply what little brain power I have to some
of the info available on the web, that there is little one can
do(without extreme measure) to 'kill' a fairy ring. I have one that
encircles part of my lawn conatining roots from a Silverleaf Maple
removed 2 years ago (likely the food source for the fungus) and a 1.5
year old installation of a 30 gallon container sized lacebark Elm. The
Elm is doing quite well but lawn grass in the area is practically
exterminated. Any suggestions?

thanx

Carl

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"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
et...
It appears from trying to apply what little brain power I have to some
of the info available on the web, that there is little one can
do(without extreme measure) to 'kill' a fairy ring. I have one that
encircles part of my lawn conatining roots from a Silverleaf Maple
removed 2 years ago (likely the food source for the fungus) and a 1.5
year old installation of a 30 gallon container sized lacebark Elm. The
Elm is doing quite well but lawn grass in the area is practically
exterminated. Any suggestions?

thanx

Carl

Carl,
I don't know if all fairy rings are equal, or if they are the same in
all regions, but here's some hope from the Pacific Northwest.
We seem to have world class fairy rings, but they grow larger in
diameter each season. Ours grow out into neighbors yards within five or six
years. (of course theirs are crossing your territory at the same time)
I've read, but not studied, that fairy rings of a sort are among the
world's largest living organisms. Some have been recognized that are miles
across.
Aren't they pretty? (heehee)
Old Chief Lynn

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"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
et...
It appears from trying to apply what little brain power I have to some
of the info available on the web, that there is little one can
do(without extreme measure) to 'kill' a fairy ring. I have one that
encircles part of my lawn conatining roots from a Silverleaf Maple
removed 2 years ago (likely the food source for the fungus) and a 1.5
year old installation of a 30 gallon container sized lacebark Elm. The
Elm is doing quite well but lawn grass in the area is practically
exterminated. Any suggestions?

Carl

Carl,
I don't know if all fairy rings are equal, or if they are the same in
all regions, but here's some hope from the Pacific Northwest.
We seem to have world class fairy rings, but they grow larger in
diameter each season. Ours grow out into neighbors yards within five or
six
years. (of course theirs are crossing your territory at the same time)
I've read, but not studied, that fairy rings of a sort are among the
world's largest living organisms. Some have been recognized that are miles
across.
Old Chief Lynn

according to info given to me the fungus responsible for fairy rings is deep
within the soil and the only 'complete' (I cannot guarantee how complete)
cure is to remove the turf to a depth of about 20cm. Make of that what you
will.

rob

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"Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message
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"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
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It appears from trying to apply what little brain power I have to some
of the info available on the web, that there is little one can
do(without extreme measure) to 'kill' a fairy ring. I have one that
encircles part of my lawn conatining roots from a Silverleaf Maple
removed 2 years ago (likely the food source for the fungus) and a 1.5
year old installation of a 30 gallon container sized lacebark Elm. The
Elm is doing quite well but lawn grass in the area is practically
exterminated. Any suggestions?

Carl

Carl,
I don't know if all fairy rings are equal, or if they are the same in
all regions, but here's some hope from the Pacific Northwest.
We seem to have world class fairy rings, but they grow larger in
diameter each season. Ours grow out into neighbors yards within five or

six

years. (of course theirs are crossing your territory at the same time)
I've read, but not studied, that fairy rings of a sort are among the
world's largest living organisms. Some have been recognized that are miles
across.
Old Chief Lynn


according to info given to me the fungus responsible for fairy rings is deep
within the soil and the only 'complete' (I cannot guarantee how complete)
cure is to remove the turf to a depth of about 20cm. Make of that what you
will.

rob



Yeah, soil replacement or some type of crazy fumigant released to
proffesionals only appears to be the closest thing to a 'cure'. Aeration
does seem to help water penetrate better. I was hoping soeone mught have
an effective 'home' cure that wasnr; permanently harmful to the soil.

sigh

Carl


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I had not only fairy rings, but in 2000, for no reason I can see,
mushrooms upon mushrooms growing in the yard, all different kinds.

I harvested gallon jug after gallon jug of them, keeping the yard
puppy-safe for a puppy-who-eats-everything.

Neither before nor afterwards has that happened. The yard has been
undisturbed since 1973. Maybe it's a 27 year mushroom genre.

It was a cornfield before that.

The fairy rings sort of expand and die out. They produce interesting
episodes when you cut your lawn, as a hobby, with a scythe, as the
taller greener grass they create fall over in a very satisfying way
when you get to one of them.

I suppose you could suppress the rings by adding lots of nitrogen
to the lawn, so it's green all over.

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Ron Hardin wrote:

I had not only fairy rings, but in 2000, for no reason I can see,
mushrooms upon mushrooms growing in the yard, all different kinds.

I harvested gallon jug after gallon jug of them, keeping the yard
puppy-safe for a puppy-who-eats-everything.

Neither before nor afterwards has that happened. The yard has been
undisturbed since 1973. Maybe it's a 27 year mushroom genre.

It was a cornfield before that.

The fairy rings sort of expand and die out. They produce interesting
episodes when you cut your lawn, as a hobby, with a scythe, as the
taller greener grass they create fall over in a very satisfying way
when you get to one of them.

I suppose you could suppress the rings by adding lots of nitrogen
to the lawn, so it's green all over.


Yes, mine produce mushrooms in an arc at the perimeter of the ring. With
suppressed growth in the middle area. And you're right, I have also read
about boosting the nitrogen in the center along with aeration.

Carl


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Why do you want to kill the fungus?

Fairy Ring mushroom (Marasmius oreades) is quite edible, and is common
in grass and lawns. If you have it, sample it. If you have no bad
reactions, eat more. I do!

Much depends on what you call a "fairy ring". A circular growth pattern
centered around a maple is probably closer to Armillariella mellea or
similar fungus. This fungus can be symbiotic at times with its host
tree (beneficial), and can also turn saprophytic and kill the tree.
Your description of a dead Acer suggests the fungus is merely eating
and decomposing the roots and woody debris still present underground.
Nothing wrong with that. Nature does it all the time. It's called
recycling.

Armillariella mellea is also edible for many people.

The best thing to do is figure out what the fungus is before you try to
kill it. It might be good for the soil, and get rid of that woody
debris before you have to dig it up.

Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com

wrote:

Why do you want to kill the fungus?

Fairy Ring mushroom (Marasmius oreades) is quite edible, and is common
in grass and lawns. If you have it, sample it. If you have no bad
reactions, eat more. I do!

Much depends on what you call a "fairy ring". A circular growth pattern
centered around a maple is probably closer to Armillariella mellea or
similar fungus. This fungus can be symbiotic at times with its host
tree (beneficial), and can also turn saprophytic and kill the tree.
Your description of a dead Acer suggests the fungus is merely eating
and decomposing the roots and woody debris still present underground.
Nothing wrong with that. Nature does it all the time. It's called
recycling.

Armillariella mellea is also edible for many people.

The best thing to do is figure out what the fungus is before you try to
kill it. It might be good for the soil, and get rid of that woody
debris before you have to dig it up.

Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com


thanx for the fun info! maybe I'll look up the 'inflorescence' of those
fungi and try to ID what I have. And yes, it seems quite likely the
roots of the now gone maple are the food source. You post will also help
me convince my wife that there may be no practical remediation.

Carl


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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:

wrote:

Why do you want to kill the fungus?

Fairy Ring mushroom (Marasmius oreades) is quite edible, and is common
in grass and lawns. If you have it, sample it. If you have no bad
reactions, eat more. I do!

Much depends on what you call a "fairy ring". A circular growth pattern
centered around a maple is probably closer to Armillariella mellea or
similar fungus. This fungus can be symbiotic at times with its host
tree (beneficial), and can also turn saprophytic and kill the tree.
Your description of a dead Acer suggests the fungus is merely eating
and decomposing the roots and woody debris still present underground.
Nothing wrong with that. Nature does it all the time. It's called
recycling.

Armillariella mellea is also edible for many people.

The best thing to do is figure out what the fungus is before you try to
kill it. It might be good for the soil, and get rid of that woody
debris before you have to dig it up.

Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com


thanx for the fun info! maybe I'll look up the 'inflorescence' of those
fungi and try to ID what I have. And yes, it seems quite likely the
roots of the now gone maple are the food source. You post will also help
me convince my wife that there may be no practical remediation.

Carl


Google image searching seems to make me believe I have something that
looks more like Chlorophyllum or maybe Agaricus. They have thicker stems
and are whiter than Marasmius. pretty sure they're not A. mellea but ???

sigh

Carl


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As an aside, does anyone know a good website for IDing mushrooms, so
one can tell the difference between edible and poisonous specimines? I
know folks go out and collect them in the wild, but I've always had a
fear of that!

Myrl Jeffcoat
http://www.myrljeffcoat.com



Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
wrote:

Why do you want to kill the fungus?

Fairy Ring mushroom (Marasmius oreades) is quite edible, and is common
in grass and lawns. If you have it, sample it. If you have no bad
reactions, eat more. I do!

Much depends on what you call a "fairy ring". A circular growth pattern
centered around a maple is probably closer to Armillariella mellea or
similar fungus. This fungus can be symbiotic at times with its host
tree (beneficial), and can also turn saprophytic and kill the tree.
Your description of a dead Acer suggests the fungus is merely eating
and decomposing the roots and woody debris still present underground.
Nothing wrong with that. Nature does it all the time. It's called
recycling.

Armillariella mellea is also edible for many people.

The best thing to do is figure out what the fungus is before you try to
kill it. It might be good for the soil, and get rid of that woody
debris before you have to dig it up.

Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com


thanx for the fun info! maybe I'll look up the 'inflorescence' of those
fungi and try to ID what I have. And yes, it seems quite likely the
roots of the now gone maple are the food source. You post will also help
me convince my wife that there may be no practical remediation.

Carl


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If Chlorophyllum molybdites (and in Texas it could be), just add them
to the compost pile. Be sure to wash your hands afterwards, or at least
wear gloves when picking them. C.m. is poisonous to many people.

If Agaricus (or a volva-less Amanita) the same caveats apply. An
Amanita is far more problematic than an Agaricus. In Oregon Amanitas
can be anything from 2 inches tall to 24 inches across; in Texas they
would probably be smaller. (Contrary to many Texan's belief, not
_everything_ is bigger in Texas. Except tales, maybe.G)

Check out Google images for photos of above possibilities.

But you are right that the mushrooms would not be Marasmius oreades
(fairy-ring mushroom) if they have white stems or caps. A. mellea is
better known as "Honey Mushroom", and typically has a golden-brown cap
and stem. Also, A. mellea is almost always found in clusters/clumps.
Single mushrooms are possible on ground, but are less common in my
experience.

Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com