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Old 14-06-2004, 01:05 AM
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I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals that would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned chemicals


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Old 14-06-2004, 02:06 AM
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"nambucca" wrote in message
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I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals that

would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned chemicals

__________________

Can you confirm that you are actually seeing fungi of some sort?. Fairy
rings are not destructive and only mildly unsightly, even on a fine lawn.
I ask because I was recently asked to see such rings and they were
actually 'bitch-marks'!! These would be about 18" diameter with dead grass
in the centre and dark green grass at the edges. Do bitches have access to
your lawn?
Fairy rings can be from feet across, to hundreds of yards in diameter.
They go on for ever, unless a physical barrier intrudes.
Best Wishes Brian.


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Old 14-06-2004, 10:04 AM
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"Brian" wrote in message
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"nambucca" wrote in message
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I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals that

would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned chemicals

__________________

Can you confirm that you are actually seeing fungi of some sort?. Fairy
rings are not destructive and only mildly unsightly, even on a fine lawn.
I ask because I was recently asked to see such rings and they were
actually 'bitch-marks'!! These would be about 18" diameter with dead grass
in the centre and dark green grass at the edges. Do bitches have access to
your lawn?
Fairy rings can be from feet across, to hundreds of yards in diameter.
They go on for ever, unless a physical barrier intrudes.
Best Wishes Brian.


.................................................. ...............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that


Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing stronger at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6 months
later back to square one and worse



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Old 14-06-2004, 11:08 AM
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nambucca wrote:

I could scream they are wrecking my lawn


A Fairy Ring grew on my lawn - the usual thing, eight feet across,
dead grass, etc. I dug out the soil to a depth of a foot, and replaced
it, planting new grass seed. It's been fine since then.....

......however, another one has appeared in a different place on the
same lawn, and two have appeared on the other lawn. I wasn't going
through that back-breaking effort again, so searched for a way of
dealing with them.

I couldn't find a way of eradicating them that was simple, but next
the best thing I found was to control them by spraying the fungus
heads with WD40 (this is not a joke). After a couple of days they
shrivel up and go black, disappearing in a week or ten days. If any
more appear, spray them too. By doing this, I appear to have stopped
the spread (the rings had not completely formed and are no bigger now
than two years ago), the grass quickly recovers, and is looking
unaffected by the fungus.

This seems to 'shock' the fungus, and I can get a whole season without
any appearing. As I say, the grass remains unaffected. To limit the
spray area, I use the plastic tube attachment to the nozzle. HTH.

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Old 14-06-2004, 03:13 PM
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Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing stronger at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out


The fungus grows outwards from a central point, essentially producing a
thick mycelial mass that kills off the grass as it advances. You get a ring,
nutrients are released that causes the rest of the grass around the dyign
patch to grow more lusciously, and that also gives the nutrients the fungus
needs. Given the right conditions you get mushrooms.

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6 months
later back to square one and worse


I wouldn't have expected that to work.

Do you know what sort of mushroom this is? I'm told that something as simple
as washing up liquid can be effective in preventing the fairy ring
champignon (Marasmius oreades) from causing this damage. I'd love that one
in my lawn, it tastes great, especially if you know how to differentiate it
from the potentially deadly Clitocybe species that you get in the same
habitat...

Have you considered just enjoying the pretty mushrooms growing up on your
lawn?




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Old 14-06-2004, 06:12 PM
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"Colin Davidson" wrote in message
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"nambucca" wrote in message
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Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing stronger

at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out


The fungus grows outwards from a central point, essentially producing a
thick mycelial mass that kills off the grass as it advances. You get a

ring,
nutrients are released that causes the rest of the grass around the dyign
patch to grow more lusciously, and that also gives the nutrients the

fungus
needs. Given the right conditions you get mushrooms.

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6

months
later back to square one and worse


I wouldn't have expected that to work.

Do you know what sort of mushroom this is? I'm told that something as

simple
as washing up liquid can be effective in preventing the fairy ring
champignon (Marasmius oreades) from causing this damage. I'd love that one
in my lawn, it tastes great, especially if you know how to differentiate

it
from the potentially deadly Clitocybe species that you get in the same
habitat...

Have you considered just enjoying the pretty mushrooms growing up on your
lawn?


The mushrooms only grow if it rains !!!!!!!and if you saw the sorry state of
my lawn you would not suggest I enjoy the mushrooms



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Old 14-06-2004, 08:15 PM
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"nambucca" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
...

"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals that

would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned chemicals

__________________






.................................................. ..............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that


Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing stronger at
the edges
_-------------------------------------------


This beats me, I regret. I've never seen a F.R with bare soil and
no grass within the ring. This seems to be something quite exceptional. I've
never even heard of this before, as normally the grass within the circle
grows unhindered. The deeper green edges are normal.
Sorry Brian.











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Old 15-06-2004, 12:05 AM
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"nambucca" wrote in message
...

"Brian" wrote in message
...

"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all

the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals

that
would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my

lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned

chemicals

__________________

Can you confirm that you are actually seeing fungi of some

sort?. Fairy
rings are not destructive and only mildly unsightly, even on a

fine lawn.
I ask because I was recently asked to see such rings and they

were
actually 'bitch-marks'!! These would be about 18" diameter with

dead grass
in the centre and dark green grass at the edges. Do bitches have

access to
your lawn?
Fairy rings can be from feet across, to hundreds of yards in

diameter.
They go on for ever, unless a physical barrier intrudes.
Best Wishes Brian.


.................................................. ..............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that


Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing

stronger at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6

months
later back to square one and worse


Why not charge gate-money for folk to come and have a look at the
spectacle?
{:-)

Franz


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Old 15-06-2004, 12:09 AM
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"nambucca" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
...

"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all

the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals

that
would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my

lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned

chemicals

__________________
Can you confirm that you are actually seeing fungi of some

sort?. Fairy
rings are not destructive and only mildly unsightly, even on a

fine lawn.
I ask because I was recently asked to see such rings and they

were
actually 'bitch-marks'!! These would be about 18" diameter with

dead grass
in the centre and dark green grass at the edges. Do bitches have

access to
your lawn?
Fairy rings can be from feet across, to hundreds of yards in

diameter.
They go on for ever, unless a physical barrier intrudes.
Best Wishes Brian.


.................................................. ..............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that


Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing

stronger at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6

months
later back to square one and worse


Why not charge gate-money for folk to come and have a look at the
spectacle?
{:-)


Son et Lumiere Special Event for Bank Holiday?
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Martin
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"martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"nambucca" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
...

"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all

the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals

that
would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my

lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned

chemicals

__________________
Can you confirm that you are actually seeing fungi of some

sort?. Fairy
rings are not destructive and only mildly unsightly, even on a

fine lawn.
I ask because I was recently asked to see such rings and they

were
actually 'bitch-marks'!! These would be about 18" diameter with

dead grass
in the centre and dark green grass at the edges. Do bitches have

access to
your lawn?
Fairy rings can be from feet across, to hundreds of yards in

diameter.
They go on for ever, unless a physical barrier intrudes.
Best Wishes Brian.

.................................................. ..............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that

Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing

stronger at
the edges

What beats me is what is decaying underneath to have caused this

The only tree that was removed had all roots traced and dug out

Have dug out the circles to a depth of 1ft
treated with armillotox put in fresh soil and new turfs .........6

months
later back to square one and worse


Why not charge gate-money for folk to come and have a look at the
spectacle?
{:-)


Son et Lumiere Special Event for Bank Holiday?
--
Martin



If I seriously thought idiots would pay to look at bare circles on my lawn I
would have a Garden Open Day !!!!!!!!!




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Old 15-06-2004, 12:11 PM
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"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the chemicals that

would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned chemicals


As posted earlier, I also have this problem.

Unlike another responder, I find that the mushrooms only appear in very dry
weather (last summer and this spring) when the grass is unusually dry, and
also the grass on the ring yellows and appears to die in very dry spells.

I did note, however, that the problem shows up more after I cut the lawn -
the cut areas around the ring look dry, burned and stressed. No problems
over the winter.

So I have raised my blade height significantly on the mower to allow the
grass a less stressful time (this is also my strategy to avoid the enormous
dry burned patches I suffered in last years dry spell).

I have also forked along the line of the fairy ring to allow water into the
soil.

I am watering the grass on the ring as regularly as possible - every day
with a rose nozzle on a hosepipe - and the grass in general seems to be
recovering.

The symptoms seem to be very like drought in the area of the ring.

BTW this ring is huge - half is in my garden and half is in my neighbours
garden.

Until the last couple of years it has not been a problem, although it must
have been growing for a long time to reach the size it is today.

So if you can live with a lush dark green lawn whcih doesn't show much
'stripe' after being cut, instead of the pale yellow/green manicured look
which turns to yellow dust over summer, (O.K. I got really teed off last
year when my lawn dried out) then this could be a solution.

To all lawn mowers - when it is dry, raise your blades!!

In summary (summery?) if the grass is stressed it can't cope with the
competition from the fungus.

Keep it long and it could well survive.

Mine is nearly recovered now and hopefully will stay O.K.

HTH
Dave R


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"nambucca" wrote in message
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The mushrooms only grow if it rains !!!!!!!and if you saw the sorry state

of
my lawn you would not suggest I enjoy the mushrooms


Yes, I know that the mushrooms will only be likely to make an appearance if
it rains. But I might still be tempted to suggest that you enjoy having the
mushrooms on your lawn. I never was a fan of uniform bodies of grass


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"Brian" wrote in message
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"nambucca" wrote in message
...

"Brian" wrote in message
...

"nambucca" wrote in message
...
I could scream they are wrecking my lawn and i have tried all

the
suggestions in the website someone kindly posted a while
back............what clever idiot in the EU banned the

chemicals that
would
deal with it .........I would like him to see the mess of my

lawn its
heartbreaking

Sure wish I knew someone with a hidden store of the banned

chemicals

__________________






.................................................. ..............

Definitely not bitch marks ........been there done that


Get mushrooms
Original ring is 10ft accros and

Next one is a 4ft semi circle

others are smaller but new ones developing fast
The soil is bare in the rings with deeper green grass growing

stronger at
the edges
_-------------------------------------------


This beats me, I regret. I've never seen a F.R with bare

soil and
no grass within the ring. This seems to be something quite

exceptional. I've
never even heard of this before, as normally the grass within the

circle
grows unhindered. The deeper green edges are normal.


It is clearly a new variant on the crop circle phenomenon.
Sit up a few nights to try and catch the aliens at work.

Franz


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