Hey Y'all,

Was wondering............

When is the best time to "break-apart" a cluster of hostas? I have two
large clusters of them, and would like to thin them down some and spread
them out.

Also, have a rose bush that has had the dreaded "black spot" for years
now. No matter what I do, the black spot always comes back every
summer. Now, a hydrangea is showing little black spots on the leaves
with darker outer linings around the spots. It is planted about 7 feet
away from the infected rose bush. Is it possible that the hydrangea has
black spot now, or is it something else that I don't know about? Either
way, what can I do to treat?

The update:

I did get the lettuce plants that I had previously asked about. Had my
first salad from it yesterday with supper. Have enough out there, can
possibly have another salad off of it Sunday. Taste great, other than
the fact you can tell it's dry-weather lettuce. As a side note, the
collards taste the same way................

Oh well,

Rain, rain, please come this way
Leave my friends that are Texas way
Oh Lord, let us pray...
Rain, rain, please come this way!

Rae

rachael simpson expounded:

Hey Y'all,

Was wondering............

When is the best time to "break-apart" a cluster of hostas? I have two
large clusters of them, and would like to thin them down some and spread
them out.

Mid-August for me around here. Although hostas are tough, you can
pretty much split them anytime. But to be kind, wait til there's a
bit more rain and a bit less sun.

snip

The update:

I did get the lettuce plants that I had previously asked about. Had my
first salad from it yesterday with supper. Have enough out there, can
possibly have another salad off of it Sunday. Taste great, other than
the fact you can tell it's dry-weather lettuce. As a side note, the
collards taste the same way................

I had my first salad from my mesclun patch yesterday. I ran around
the garden snipping herbs, too, like basil, parsley, salad burnet, and
even a few sprigs of purslane. The D'Avignon radishes are fantastic
right now, they went in, as well as some of the bunching onions I grew
for whatever reason I'm not really sure G Just to try, I guess.
Very tasty, though, and not too hot. The only thing in that salad I
didn't grow were cucumbers and cherry tomatoes. Maybe next week.....

Oh well,

Rain, rain, please come this way
Leave my friends that are Texas way
Oh Lord, let us pray...
Rain, rain, please come this way!

Yes, I'd like a steady inch a week. Of course people in hell want ice
water ;-
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

When is the best time to "break-apart" a cluster of hostas? I have
two large clusters of them, and would like to thin them down some and
spread them out.

I did it in the spring (not long after the leaves came up). They
seemed to take it pretty well (they didn't droop as much as other
plants like black eyed susans do when I divide/move them).

According to http://perfectperennials.tripod.com/id8.html you can
divide hostas any time of the year, though.

Also, have a rose bush that has had the dreaded "black spot" for
years now.

Well, I'm sure it is heresy but our roses have it (or something which
looks fairly similar), and we just ignored it. The diseased leaves
fall off (either in the autumn, or early), and the new growth doesn't
really have it bad until it has been there a while. We've only been
through one season of the "ignore it" strategy, though.

Antique roses are said to be less susceptible, and keeping air
circulation around the plant is said to help.

Charlie wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:43:04 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

Hey Y'all,

Hey you, where you been? Thought maybe you *had* dried up and blown
away! :-)

Nah, the kids and hubby keeping me a bit busier these days. Went to the
beach tuesday and wednesday. my folks have a place down there, so all
it costed us was the gas to get there.

I did get the lettuce plants that I had previously asked about. Had my
first salad from it yesterday with supper. Have enough out there, can
possibly have another salad off of it Sunday. Taste great, other than
the fact you can tell it's dry-weather lettuce. As a side note, the
collards taste the same way................

Oh well,

Rain, rain, please come this way
Leave my friends that are Texas way
Oh Lord, let us pray...
Rain, rain, please come this way!

Thought about you and yours the other day after talking with one of the
boy's friends. The hay crop here is not too bad, but they are a
cutting behind. Hay is going to be worth some serious money in some
places this fall and winter.

that's one thing that been keeping me busy, helping hubby move the
equipment from one field to the other. picked up a couple of extra
customers this week. a they cut, we bale deal. that's always good
since that way we don't have to worry about selling the hay. lots of
folks ran out of hay around here this past winter, this winter not
looking much better in the hay department. everybody is behind what
with the extra cold snap, and then the lack of rain. people are paying
as much as 40 a bale (round) for hay as far away as montana, and that's
not counting the cost of having it hauled here. had just enough for
ourselves to get us thru last winter too. just didn't have extra for
the customers who usually buy from us. we've done good with hay this
week. had 200 acres overall to bale for other customers, and then about
80 acres for ourselves. all that work came just in time, thank god.

It's looking serious on both ends of the rain guage, isn't
it...depending upon where you are.

yeah, looks like a rough year starting out.
well, it's past my bedtime. hubby probably fixing to come find
me...........i put the kids to bed and was suppose to be picking up the
toys.....

Care, and keep your eyes to the heavens
Charlie

you too,
catch ya later,
rae

On 7/6/07 10:21 PM, in article ,
"Charlie" Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:43:04 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

Hey Y'all,

Hey you, where you been? Thought maybe you *had* dried up and blown
away! :-)

I did get the lettuce plants that I had previously asked about. Had my
first salad from it yesterday with supper. Have enough out there, can
possibly have another salad off of it Sunday. Taste great, other than
the fact you can tell it's dry-weather lettuce. As a side note, the
collards taste the same way................

Oh well,

Rain, rain, please come this way
Leave my friends that are Texas way
Oh Lord, let us pray...
Rain, rain, please come this way!

Thought about you and yours the other day after talking with one of the
boy's friends. The hay crop here is not too bad, but they are a
cutting behind. Hay is going to be worth some serious money in some
places this fall and winter.

It's looking serious on both ends of the rain guage, isn't
it...depending upon where you are.

Care, and keep your eyes to the heavens
Charlie

I'll happily send some of my rain elsewhere. Lots of thunder storms with
hail rolling through my next of the woods of late.

Cheryl

Jim Kingdon wrote:

I did it in the spring (not long after the leaves came up). They
seemed to take it pretty well (they didn't droop as much as other
plants like black eyed susans do when I divide/move them).

According to http://perfectperennials.tripod.com/id8.html you can
divide hostas any time of the year, though.

Thanks!

Also, have a rose bush that has had the dreaded "black spot" for
years now.

Well, I'm sure it is heresy but our roses have it (or something which
looks fairly similar), and we just ignored it. The diseased leaves
fall off (either in the autumn, or early), and the new growth doesn't
really have it bad until it has been there a while. We've only been
through one season of the "ignore it" strategy, though.
Ok, I have long ago quit trying to treat the rose bush. my question is
whether or not it is possible that my hydrangea has developed the black
spot...........

Thanks,
Rae

Ann wrote:
rachael simpson expounded:

snip

When is the best time to "break-apart" a cluster of hostas? I have two
large clusters of them, and would like to thin them down some and spread
them out.

Mid-August for me around here. Although hostas are tough, you can
pretty much split them anytime. But to be kind, wait til there's a
bit more rain and a bit less sun.
snip

Thanks for the info!

Ann wrote:
Charlie expounded:

Have you ever tried any of the different japanese type cukes?

Nope, I haven't. I'll have to do so. I've got a pickling cuke out
there (don't know the variety, I bought plants) and Diva cukes I grew
from seed. Diva has become my favorite.

me neither. I have all pickling - last count had 27 plants, picking an
average of a dozen cukes a day. never heard of diva cukes........

Cheryl Isaak wrote:
*SNIP*

I'll happily send some of my rain elsewhere. Lots of thunder storms with
hail rolling through my next of the woods of late.

Cheryl


we've had some storms, all thunder and lots of lightening, even a bit of
hail two weeks ago, but no rain, and what bit we have gotten, hasn't
been enough. Last update was our area was 11 and half inches short on
water. the south river by the house is almost non-existent, and it is a
branch of the cape fear river......

rachael simpson expounded:

me neither. I have all pickling - last count had 27 plants, picking an
average of a dozen cukes a day. never heard of diva cukes........

They're from Johnny's.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/p...p=3&item=2198T

This link is to the treated seeds, the organic seeds must be out of
stock.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

On Jul 7, 1:22 pm, Charlie wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 07:06:23 -0400, Cheryl Isaak

wrote:
I'll happily send some of my rain elsewhere. Lots of thunder storms with
hail rolling through my next of the woods of late.

Cheryl

I used to think Texas was mostly mesquite and jackrabbits. ;-)

Seems it is something else this year. Been catching on TWC and news
some of the stuff you all have been expereincing all spring and it is
not good. Makes gardening....uh....impossible someplaces.

Keep looking for clear blue and g'luck
Charlie

Charlie
Cheryl is in southern New Hampshire

Emilie
in Northern Calif.

Ann wrote:

They're from Johnny's.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/p...p=3&item=2198T

This link is to the treated seeds, the organic seeds must be out of
stock.

thanks! requested a catalog to hang on to. might try them out next
year. the garden is too full for anything else now..........

rachael simpson expounded:


thanks! requested a catalog to hang on to. might try them out next
year. the garden is too full for anything else now..........

Johnny's is a great seed company, I know you'll be pleased with
whatever you buy from them. I trialed a couple squashes a few years
ago, I've got Bonbon growing out there now, it was my favorite of the
two - it's a winter keeper, sweet and meaty like buttercup. This
season I've got Tomatoberry, a cherry that's shaped like a strawberry.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

On 7/7/07 5:42 PM, in article ,
"Charlie" Charlie wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:05:25 -0700, mleblanca
wrote:

On Jul 7, 1:22 pm, Charlie wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 07:06:23 -0400, Cheryl Isaak

wrote:
I'll happily send some of my rain elsewhere. Lots of thunder storms with
hail rolling through my next of the woods of late.

Cheryl

I used to think Texas was mostly mesquite and jackrabbits. ;-)

Seems it is something else this year. Been catching on TWC and news
some of the stuff you all have been expereincing all spring and it is
not good. Makes gardening....uh....impossible someplaces.

Keep looking for clear blue and g'luck
Charlie

Charlie
Cheryl is in southern New Hampshire

Emilie
in Northern Calif.

Oh balls....uh.....yeah....I knew that!

Well, somebody here is from Texas......I thought!

Sorry Cheryl

Charlie, from Northern Mo......I think!
Our buddy Victoria!
C

rachael simpson wrote:
Hey Y'all,

ok, i think i may have figured it out..........


Also, have a rose bush that has had the dreaded "black spot" for years
now. No matter what I do, the black spot always comes back every
summer. Now, a hydrangea is showing little black spots on the leaves
with darker outer linings around the spots. It is planted about 7 feet
away from the infected rose bush. Is it possible that the hydrangea has
black spot now, or is it something else that I don't know about? Either
way, what can I do to treat?

from my searches, i think my problem is either cercospora or
anthracnose. not sure yet, as the spots on my plant are still quite
small, but so far those two are the closest relation to my problem.
time will tell i guess.

Rae