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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the dirt
to break down.


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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I

have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want

to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the

dirt
to break down.


I can say that old gib board is reprocessed to get the gypsum out of it &
then sold as a soil amendment.

rob


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what is in joint compound???

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:27:38 -0700, "Eigenvector"
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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the dirt
to break down.

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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I

have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want

to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the

dirt
to break down.


I can say that old gib board is reprocessed to get the gypsum out of it &
then sold as a soil amendment.

rob

That's promising. I was hoping that joint compound didn't contain something
that would be detrimental to plant growth.


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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I

have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want

to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the

dirt
to break down.


I can say that old gib board is reprocessed to get the gypsum out of it &
then sold as a soil amendment.

rob

That's promising. I was hoping that joint compound didn't contain
something that would be detrimental to plant growth.



I mean this in a good way, but this is the dumbest idea I've heard since
George Bush opened his mouth this morning. You want calcium in your soil? Go
buy a bag of bone meal for a few bucks.




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On Aug 22, 6:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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"Eigenvector" wrote in message
news Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I
have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want
to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the
dirt
to break down.


I can say that old gib board is reprocessed to get the gypsum out of it &
then sold as a soil amendment.


rob


That's promising. I was hoping that joint compound didn't contain
something that would be detrimental to plant growth.


I mean this in a good way, but this is the dumbest idea I've heard since
George Bush opened his mouth this morning. You want calcium in your soil? Go
buy a bag of bone meal for a few bucks.


He asked if he could use it rather than throw it away.. If you have
information that would help him, I am sure it would be welcomed.
Wallboard scrap works nicely in pH control. When I built my pond, I
dumped 30,000 of wallboard scrap in it before it filled. I have the
only alkali (about 7.6) pond in the region, and the fish reproduce
like rabbits.

cheers

oz, who can't help with his question, but won't, here, be nasty

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On Aug 22, 6:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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news Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil?
I
have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't
want
to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in
the
dirt
to break down.


I can say that old gib board is reprocessed to get the gypsum out of
it &
then sold as a soil amendment.


rob


That's promising. I was hoping that joint compound didn't contain
something that would be detrimental to plant growth.


I mean this in a good way, but this is the dumbest idea I've heard since
George Bush opened his mouth this morning. You want calcium in your soil?
Go
buy a bag of bone meal for a few bucks.


He asked if he could use it rather than throw it away.. If you have
information that would help him, I am sure it would be welcomed.
Wallboard scrap works nicely in pH control. When I built my pond, I
dumped 30,000 of wallboard scrap in it before it filled. I have the
only alkali (about 7.6) pond in the region, and the fish reproduce
like rabbits.

cheers

oz, who can't help with his question, but won't, here, be nasty


I wasn't being nasty. There's something missing from this discussion.
Haven't you noticed? What's missing is anyone who knows **exactly** what is
in joint compound. As far as throwing it away, why do that? If the
container's sealed properly, it'll last for years.


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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:27:38 -0700, "Eigenvector"
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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the dirt
to break down.



Here is the URL for an MSDS page for drywall compound.

It's mostly gypsum, here we buy that to add to our soil. It depends
where you are and the condition of your soil whether it would be good
or bad. In any event, nothing bad will happen if you mix it in with
the soil.
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:14:59 GMT, Charles
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:27:38 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:

Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the dirt
to break down.



Here is the URL for an MSDS page for drywall compound.

It's mostly gypsum, here we buy that to add to our soil. It depends
where you are and the condition of your soil whether it would be good
or bad. In any event, nothing bad will happen if you mix it in with
the soil.



Oops, forgot

http://www.cgcinc.com/pdf/MSDS/61-360-035_E.pdf
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On Aug 22, 7:07 pm, MajorOz wrote:

When I built my pond, I dumped 30,000 of wallboard scrap....


That's 30,000 POUNDS of........

duh !

cheers

oz, who got onions, three types of lettuce, spinach, two kinds of
peas, and two kinds of radishes in today, just in time to leave for
two weeks



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what is in joint compound???


its sold by the gram round here, or the bullet, not the pound.

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what is in joint compound???


its sold by the gram round here, or the bullet, not the pound.

rob


You're kidding me! The smallest amount I can buy is about a pint....

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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I

have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want

to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the

dirt
to break down.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_compound

"The compound is a complex combination of water, limestone, expanded
perlite, ethylene-vinyl acetate polymer and attapulgite."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene-vinyl_acetate
"EVA is one of the materials popularly known as 'expanded rubber' or
'foam rubber'."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attapulgite
"It is one of the types of fuller's earth."
"Until 2003, it was the active ingredient used in Kaopectate,"


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"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I

have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want

to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the

dirt
to break down.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_compound

"The compound is a complex combination of water, limestone, expanded
perlite, ethylene-vinyl acetate polymer and attapulgite."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene-vinyl_acetate
"EVA is one of the materials popularly known as 'expanded rubber' or
'foam rubber'."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attapulgite
"It is one of the types of fuller's earth."
"Until 2003, it was the active ingredient used in Kaopectate,"



I appreciate the links, I actually already knew what it was made from, but
it was how those ingredients interacted with plants that I was unsure of.

Really the EVA is the only thing that concerns me, but I wouldn't expect it
to be a large amount of the joint compound. Perlite is another potential
problem, don't have any real knowledge of that stuff and what its good for.



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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:14:59 GMT, Charles
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:27:38 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:

Any reason why joint compound can't be worked into the soil to add in
nutrients, like calcium, or as a way to control the ph of the soil? I
have
about 3 lbs of the stuff from a previous drywall project and didn't want
to
toss it out, when I could toss it on the compost pile or toss it in the
dirt
to break down.



Here is the URL for an MSDS page for drywall compound.

It's mostly gypsum, here we buy that to add to our soil. It depends
where you are and the condition of your soil whether it would be good
or bad. In any event, nothing bad will happen if you mix it in with
the soil.



Oops, forgot

http://www.cgcinc.com/pdf/MSDS/61-360-035_E.pdf


Thanks for the link, I didn't know the composition amounts. I was concerned
about the EVA portions, but looking at the concentrations they're far too
small to matter in the amounts I'm looking at.

So what is Perlite good for anyway? (so far as plants are concerned anyway)


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