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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama
enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. That's it. That is Obama's "qualification" for higher office. Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of his political ilk, will, and take this as a FACT, steal freedoms from the American people. Already his strongmen are trying to silence the press. Newspapers that endorsed McCain have been punished by being removed from the Obama campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose only crime was that he spoke his mind, IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data bases to try to discredit poor Joe. Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview of what the Commander and Thief will bring to America. If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly deserve the country that you are going to get. Mark my words. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
jgalt wrote:
No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. That's it. Hardy har har. McLame and the Re-puke-licans re-distribution game is to take money from those who really do work hard and earn it and give it to those who don't work hard, don't earn it and already have plenty of money. The progressive tax system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it. That is Obama's "qualification" for higher office. Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of his political ilk, will, and take this as a FACT, steal freedoms from the American people. Another hardy har har. You say this after the Bush administration, with the help of McShame, instituted spying on US Citizens and declared anyone who disagree with them as "unpatriotic" Surely you jest. Already his strongmen are trying to silence the press. Newspapers that endorsed McCain have been punished by being removed from the Obama campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose only crime was that he spoke his mind, IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data bases to try to discredit poor Joe. Well, Joe does have other crimes he committed such as failure to pay his taxes. And, although not a crime, he is NOT a licensed plumber and he is a pathological LIAR. He does not make enough money to buy the plumbing business he works for and even if he could, it does not bring in revenue in excess of $250K. The dumb shit should know that if he EVER hopes to afford to buy the business, Obama's tax plan would put more money in his pocket to do so. Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview of what the Commander and Thief will bring to America. Look at Gordon Liddy, an American home grown terrorist who McShame is pround to call a friend. If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly deserve the country that you are going to get. Mark my words. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
jgalt wrote: No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. That's it. Hardy har har. McLame and the Re-puke-licans re-distribution game is to take money from those who really do work hard and earn it and give it to those who don't work hard, don't earn it and already have plenty of money. The progressive tax system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it. That is Obama's "qualification" for higher office. Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of his political ilk, will, and take this as a FACT, steal freedoms from the American people. Another hardy har har. You say this after the Bush administration, with the help of McShame, instituted spying on US Citizens and declared anyone who disagree with them as "unpatriotic" Surely you jest. Already his strongmen are trying to silence the press. Newspapers that endorsed McCain have been punished by being removed from the Obama campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose only crime was that he spoke his mind, IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data bases to try to discredit poor Joe. Well, Joe does have other crimes he committed such as failure to pay his taxes. And, although not a crime, he is NOT a licensed plumber and he is a pathological LIAR. He does not make enough money to buy the plumbing business he works for and even if he could, it does not bring in revenue in excess of $250K. The dumb shit should know that if he EVER hopes to afford to buy the business, Obama's tax plan would put more money in his pocket to do so. Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview of what the Commander and Thief will bring to America. Look at Gordon Liddy, an American home grown terrorist who McShame is pround to call a friend. If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly deserve the country that you are going to get. Mark my words. Does any one know if obama has been told what his responsibilities would be under the Constitution? biden has already shown he does not know with his comments on Cheney and his participation as the head of the Senate. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Last time that great scribe jgalt chipped away
at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ... No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. You misspelt Paulson. -- Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying apatriot #1, atheist #1417, Chief EAC prophet Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009 Apatriotism Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:49:19 -0700, someone posting as jgalt purportedly
wrote: horseshit snipped You really need to **** off and go grow a brain. Best get used to the sound of "President Obama" unless of course "you love the terrorists more than you love America". Yes this kind of negative talk about the President could certainly be of interest to Mr. Bush's Homeland Security people. I'd be minding my manners if I were you. -- poking dumbasses in the forehead, till my finger hurts. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Keith nuttle wrote:
Paul E. Lehmann wrote: jgalt wrote: No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. That's it. Hardy har har. McLame and the Re-puke-licans re-distribution game is to take money from those who really do work hard and earn it and give it to those who don't work hard, don't earn it and already have plenty of money. The progressive tax system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it. That is Obama's "qualification" for higher office. Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of his political ilk, will, and take this as a FACT, steal freedoms from the American people. Another hardy har har. You say this after the Bush administration, with the help of McShame, instituted spying on US Citizens and declared anyone who disagree with them as "unpatriotic" Surely you jest. Already his strongmen are trying to silence the press. Newspapers that endorsed McCain have been punished by being removed from the Obama campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose only crime was that he spoke his mind, IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data bases to try to discredit poor Joe. Well, Joe does have other crimes he committed such as failure to pay his taxes. And, although not a crime, he is NOT a licensed plumber and he is a pathological LIAR. He does not make enough money to buy the plumbing business he works for and even if he could, it does not bring in revenue in excess of $250K. The dumb shit should know that if he EVER hopes to afford to buy the business, Obama's tax plan would put more money in his pocket to do so. Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview of what the Commander and Thief will bring to America. Look at Gordon Liddy, an American home grown terrorist who McShame is pround to call a friend. If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly deserve the country that you are going to get. Mark my words. Does any one know if obama has been told what his responsibilities would be under the Constitution? biden has already shown he does not know with his comments on Cheney and his participation as the head of the Senate. I think you are confusing Sarah with Biden. Sarah CLEARLY has shown she has absolutely NO idea of the role of Vice President, especially in relationship with the Senate. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 03:49:19 -0700 (PDT), jgalt
wrote: ... Poor old Joe the Plumber.... If a guy who only loses out tax wise, if he makes more than a quarter mill every year, is a "poor old Joe"; can I be a "poor ol' Brian". Please? Please? :-) Brian W |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
jgalt wrote:
No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. What? You mean like McCain wanted to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM And don't forget Sarah Palin "spreading the wealth" .. -- We must change the way we live Or the climate will do it for us. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:10:26 -0400, Keith nuttle
wrote: ... Does any one know if obama has been told what his responsibilities would be under the Constitution? Geez! I'm an independent, and I could vote either way, but idjits who don't know that Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law at Chicago (fer Criss sake!), ought to realise there is no president for the last 140 years who knows MORE about consititutional law than he does. Oh hell. Dumb rednecks cluster in the Republican wing. That's it: I'm voting Dem. Brian W |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:49:19 -0700 in
, jgalt wrote: No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama yawn -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ Theology: The study of elaborate verbal disguises for non-ideas. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
"jgalt" wrote in message
... No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who did NOT earn it. This is not appropriate for this newsgroup. However, it does bring up a question regarding the perspective of those that do not pay taxes. I'm trying to find out exactly what that phrase means when used in political campaigns and such. I take it it means that such receive some form of public assistance in regards to income, and, it also means a wage earner received all his/her taxes paid thoughout the year via an income tax return check per their filed income tax return. My perspective: I'm in my mid 50s regarding age. I've worked since I was 16 part-time, then full-time since I was 19. I was in the U.S. military for 20 years, then, went back to working a regular job. My income has always been less than the middle of the middle income bracket except for 2 years of my life. One year, my current ex-wife, and one child and I were considered borderline poverty level, with that one exception where I did not pay any taxes as I received all taxes paid via my employer via income tax return check. I've paid into the U.S. Treasury without full return of all my via employer paid taxes otherwise. My feeling is that the vast majority of working folks, like myself, do end up paying federal income taxes as a net result after the income tax return is filed. Further, I feel that most folks don't know about their neighbors and folks like them and who, in the final net analysis actually pay Federal income tax. Especially those trying to compare folks in widely varied tax brackets. They assume incorrectly. As a result, there's breeding ground for dividing people and using those invalid assumptions as motive for political gain by fostering those notions. There's a variety of notions in this formula that are really just false assumptions. Lower income working folks (all 3 subgroups inclusive in these) dont pay Federal income taxes in the final, net analysis is one of them. Another notion on the lower income group's perspective is the higher income group has full Federal income tax payment prevention by way of tax law. Such is a notion taken advantage of by the opposing polical party. The people in the middle, middle income taxpayers who are also voters, are asked to determine, by their own notions, which perspective is correct (if both correct, which is most correct) for that particular election cycle. My perspective is that a person needs hard data to make such determination of who is actually paying taxes, and if so, how much. I don't see why the IRS, by gross ncome level brackets vs. taxes actually paid, with a line item noting percentage of income actually taxes paid, can't produce figures for a basis of a logical decision of which notion is actually most correct. And a concurrent table showing how that's changed over the years noting the U.S. governemt designated poverty level in a given tax year for each year that table is provided for year to year comparison's sake. Nope, ain't gonna happen. Did you ever wonder why? -- Dave If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not a cantaloupe. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
I don't normally reply to political posts, especially in NGs where they do
not belong, but I will make an exception to this one. I sincerely worry about our country when the people that elect our leaders are so massively uninformed. The population's exposure to a biased media and the media's propensity to edit by exclusion world news frightens the hell out of me. Of course, you say, I am talking about somebody else, that could not be me. Well, boys and girls, it is you. The person in the mirror you see in the morning. I refuse to label Americans as ignorant or stupid, as most of the rest of the word does, because it is far from the truth. However, if you do not feel insulted by the rhetoric spewed from the mouth of both candidates, you should be and it is indicative of the level of understanding in the general population. Please do your own simple arithmetic. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has a cost, please ask yourself where the money will come from for the advertised programs being spouted and if you determine that there are no funds for these things, no matter how noble and righteous they may be, you must NOT trust anything else the candidate says. We are already in a terrible state with massive national, corporate and personal debt. If you think the sub-prime mortgage thing is big, think about personal credit card debt. It is even bigger. Remember, no man is truly free, if he is in debt. What are you going to do about it. Don't look somewhere else. Look in the mirror. Put a plan together and vote responsibly. Steve " |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Steve Lusardi wrote:
I don't normally reply to political posts, especially in NGs where they do not belong, but I will make an exception to this one. I sincerely worry about our country when the people that elect our leaders are so massively uninformed. The population's exposure to a biased media and the media's propensity to edit by exclusion world news frightens the hell out of me. Of course, you say, I am talking about somebody else, that could not be me. Well, boys and girls, it is you. The person in the mirror you see in the morning. I refuse to label Americans as ignorant or stupid, as most of the rest of the word does, because it is far from the truth. However, if you do not feel insulted by the rhetoric spewed from the mouth of both candidates, you should be and it is indicative of the level of understanding in the general population. Please do your own simple arithmetic. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has a cost, please ask yourself where the money will come from for the advertised programs being spouted and if you determine that there are no funds for these things, no matter how noble and righteous they may be, you must NOT trust anything else the candidate says. We are already in a terrible state with massive national, corporate and personal debt. If you think the sub-prime mortgage thing is big, think about personal credit card debt. It is even bigger. Remember, no man is truly free, if he is in debt. What are you going to do about it. Don't look somewhere else. Look in the mirror. Put a plan together and vote responsibly. Steve I agree. However, there's one problem with that: The American politick is a "first passed the post, winner takes all" system, which pretty much guarantees a two-party system. As such, and because political advertising is NOT free, it also guarantees that only the richest candidates can even make it TO that "post". However, there's a difference in this election. The money that Obama is getting is NOT his own. It's from contributors. A lot of contributors. He is not using DNC money. Whereas, McCain is using a lot of money from the RNC. Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however, vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument): I am voting for Barack Obama on November 4. -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
"wordsmith" wrote in message m... On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:49:19 -0700, someone posting as jgalt purportedly wrote: horseshit snipped You really need to **** off and go grow a brain. I'd betcha that's not going to happen soon. |
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Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
This thread was started by a stealth Obama supporter who wants us to
believe anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is too stupid to tie his own shoes. -paghat the ratgirl -- visit my temperate gardening website: http://www.paghat.com visit my film reviews website: http://www.weirdwildrealm.com |
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