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On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:04:45 +0000 in
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"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in news:1k2vt5-92i2.ln1
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Except there is.

Hint: try to sneak a lot of K-Y into jail with you, you'll need it...

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And not one shred of evidence in a post made by a 12-year-old mind....

QUOTE THE LAW! They are all listed on:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/

Hundreds of thousands of Americans DON'T pay income taxes, now, many
former IRS employees. The movie introduces you to a few of their worst
offenders.


The "there is no law" is a scam doofus. And people who fall for the scam
end up in jail.

You want to practice civil disobedience, that's fine with me. I think
more of the US public should grow a set and do so. But civil disobedience
also means going to jail when they catch up with you. It's part of the
package.

You don't like the 16th amendment, lobby to get it repealed. But until
then, it's a quite simple, easily understand part of our primary law. To
wit:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states,
and without regard to any census or enumeration."

End of story.

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This thread was started by a stealth Obama supporter who wants us to
believe anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is too stupid to tie his own
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Well, I think that anyone that just goes along with either Party (usually
thier parents Party) blindly with no more than a "sound bite" interest in
the issues is incredibly ignorant.
I think the problem is that most Americans vote the party ticket because
it's easy; they can less time figuring out which candidate will do a better
job for America (first) and the world (second) and put that valuabe time
towards IMPORTANT things like foot ball stats, thier golf stroke, which
shoes go better with the new outfit or which celebrity has won biggest idiot
award this week.
Following blindly is a very bad idea, period. It works well for the Leaders,
but not so well for the followers.
People have a right to vote however they want, but I think to not care
enough about the choice to put in a little time studying the candidates
cheapens this gift.


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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
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The progressive tax
system has been the law of the land for a LONG
time now. Get over it.


I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that says
I have to pay Income Tax on my wages?

Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code.


http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/

Title 26 contains the tax code. Amazingly enough, the very first
section of the Title covers individiual income tax.

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Oh, dear.. we have a tax protestor loose! I'll be taking cites from
the best FAQ on the subject, http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

The 16th Amendment was never ratified, rendering it moot. Amendments
must be ratified, according to the constitution, protecting states
rights to NOT become slaves of the central government.


Wrong.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#ratification

The Supreme Court also pointed out that the 16th Amendment did NOT grant
the government any NEW taxes, such as the Income Tax on INDIVIDUAL
Americans.


Wrong.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#nonewpower

It IS legal to tax income from GAINS of corporations. That's not in
question. What IS and has been since 1913 in question is there is no
law that gives the government the power to make UNAPPORTIONED taxes on
PERSONAL income....and never has been.


Wrong.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#wages

The IRS code is NOT US law. The IRS code is REGULATION by BUREAUCRATS
who were told they had this power to unapportioned taxes on individuals.
Because of a lack of enabling legislation, IRS code is null and void.
Bureaucrats cannot and SHOULD NOT have any power to enable anything
outside US CODE. If they can...we're DOOMED!


Wrong.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#law

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Tom wrote:

It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country!


John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg
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Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize their
almighty Obama must be a racist.

Hardly. I'm just not interested in seeing someone with so few creditials
suitable for the job be elected to it. That his ass happens to be black has
nothing to do with it. Shame on you for trying to insinuate otherwise.
Who's the closest racist here, you, more likely.


"Tom" wrote in message
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On Nov 1, 8:47 pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.


Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.



Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.

He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.

No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.

Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?

Tom

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Bill Kearney wrote:

Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize
their almighty Obama must be a racist.


It's racist because you say this about Obama without a comment on
Palin's lack of experience outside of her few months as governor...a few
months marked by abuses of power and questionable claims.

And there are Republicans who agree with me.

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On *Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:25 -0400 Marty carved the
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Tom wrote:


It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people.


Huzzah! *I want intellectually elite people to run the country!


John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg
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source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein



I saw that, too.

Cleese is pretty smart himself, so coming from him, I think he lends a
lot of credibility to smartest guy in the room point of view.

Thanks for the link. It was fun watching again.

Tom
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On Nov 2, 9:53*am, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. *Anyone daring to criticize their
almighty Obama must be a racist.

Hardly. *I'm just not interested in seeing someone with so few creditials
suitable for the job be elected to it. *That his ass happens to be black has
nothing to do with it. *Shame on you for trying to insinuate otherwise.
Who's the closest racist here, you, more likely.

"Tom" wrote in message

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On Nov 1, 8:47 pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:

He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.


Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.


Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.

He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.

No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.

Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?

Tom




I didn't insinuate anything. I asked a question.

Feel free to ask any of the black people I work with if I'm a racist.
I'll be happy to provide contact info via e-mail.

Your refusal to acknowledge his accomplishments make you look like a
doofus. You don't have to agree with him, but you can't logically
dismiss his educational or scholarly achievements.

Tom
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wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:

Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize
their almighty Obama must be a racist.


It's racist because you say this about Obama without a comment on
Palin's lack of experience outside of her few months as governor...a few
months marked by abuses of power and questionable claims.

And there are Republicans who agree with me.

..


While I suspect racism could very well be at least part of the core of
opinions that require such huge blinders to project, fact is, partisan
thinkers always fail to see their own candidates' ignobility while
enlarging every faint hint of fault in the "other," and the "other" is
often cast one step short of human whether on a battlefield or a debate.
Meaning the most idiotically one-sided irrational assertion could be made
against the "foe" even if he weren't, additionally, a ni....

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On 2008-11-02 10:15:00 -0500, Douglas Berry
said:

John Cleese was on Countdown the other night, and he said that he
didn't want a President he could have a beer with, he wanted a
Pressident so brilliant, so well-informed, that Cleese would be afraid
to open his mouth for fear of showing what an idiot he is.

Watch it yourself, seeing John Cleese doubled over in laughter is
great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUnGfYvXMwg


Olbermann may have given the most truthful assessment: that his salary
is paid by the manufactured controversy.

There is hardly a whit of difference between the two RepubliCrat candidates.

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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:17:32 +0000 Larry carved the
following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
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The progressive tax
system has been the law of the land for a LONG
time now. Get over it.

I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that says
I have to pay Income Tax on my wages?

Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code.


http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/

Title 26 contains the tax code. Amazingly enough, the very first
section of the Title covers individiual income tax.


Douglas, Larry thinks that Title 26 *IS* the "bogus IRS code"... even
though Title 26 is part of the "United States Code"...

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On 2008-11-02 10:13:54 -0500, Jangchub said:

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:09:00 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:


Oh, I would like to see a list of *any* authored by him.


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage509824/pg1

http://you.presscue.com/node/442

http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read..._United_States


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010303303.html

How

many more would you like?


Well, some substantial ones that didn't get read twice and out. What
you posted above demonstrates that he wasted a lot of time with fluff
-- as did Hillary.

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I wonder why you use this tag, as I don't *think* you're
pro-Republican, but that is a pretty much a truism.

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Hey Tom!
It's not about the man, his education or his experience.....It's about the
issues,his honestyand his position.
Steve

"Tom" wrote in message
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On Nov 2, 9:53 am, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize their
almighty Obama must be a racist.

Hardly. I'm just not interested in seeing someone with so few creditials
suitable for the job be elected to it. That his ass happens to be black
has
nothing to do with it. Shame on you for trying to insinuate otherwise.
Who's the closest racist here, you, more likely.

"Tom" wrote in message

...
On Nov 1, 8:47 pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:

He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.


Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.


Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.

He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.

No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.

Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?

Tom




I didn't insinuate anything. I asked a question.

Feel free to ask any of the black people I work with if I'm a racist.
I'll be happy to provide contact info via e-mail.

Your refusal to acknowledge his accomplishments make you look like a
doofus. You don't have to agree with him, but you can't logically
dismiss his educational or scholarly achievements.

Tom


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On Nov 2, 1:21*pm, "Steve Lusardi" wrote:
Hey Tom!
It's not about the man, his education or his experience.....It's about the
issues,his honestyand his position.
Steve

"Tom" wrote in message

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On Nov 2, 9:53 am, "Bill Kearney" wrote:



Ah yes, the specious 'racist' argument. Anyone daring to criticize their
almighty Obama must be a racist.


Hardly. I'm just not interested in seeing someone with so few creditials
suitable for the job be elected to it. That his ass happens to be black
has
nothing to do with it. Shame on you for trying to insinuate otherwise.
Who's the closest racist here, you, more likely.


"Tom" wrote in message


....
On Nov 1, 8:47 pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:


He even taught
constitutional law for a few years.


Hmmm., those who can't do... teach.


Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let
alone discounted and ridiculed.


He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a
lawyer.


No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him
credit for them.


Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements?


Tom


I didn't insinuate anything. I asked a question.

Feel free to ask any of the black people I work with if I'm a racist.
I'll be happy to provide contact info via e-mail.

Your refusal to acknowledge his accomplishments make you look like a
doofus. You don't have to agree with him, but you can't logically
dismiss his educational or scholarly achievements.

Tom


Isn't honesty about the man... about character?

I have neither read nor heard anything credible to call into question
his character. I doubt many of the posters here can make a claim to
public service or human service as long as Obama's.

I notice you still haven't acknowleged his academic accomplishments.

Tom
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