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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee
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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee


In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than layering...
with layering someone would need to see to regular watering. Perhaps you
can use both methods simultaneously. But were it me I'd bring home some
branches in a bucket of water. Be warned you're liable to be very old
before you see any berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I
adore Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the road has
some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old farm house, those
mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg

Btw, that's my hay.

All about:
http://mulberrytrees.co.uk/


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In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than
layering... with layering someone would need to see to regular
watering. Perhaps you can use both methods simultaneously. But
were it me I'd bring home some branches in a bucket of water.


yes, i could do that, thanks.

Be warned you're liable to be very old before you see any
berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I adore
Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the
road has some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old
farm house, those mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg


are the weeping mulberry black or white? white mulberry is an
invasive here, but black mulberry is native. those are very nice
looking trees though. i do like weeping cultivars...

Btw, that's my hay.


well, it beats mowing every week, but what do you do with the hay?
i see quite a few places that hay the big round bales & just leave
them to rot at the field's edge (or worse, out in the middle of the
field). can you use it as mulch or is it too seedy?
i've got 10+ acres of pasture, but the 4 llamas & 2 goats keep it
'mowed'. it's too hilly & rocky to hay anyway.
lee
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"brooklyn1" wrote in
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In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than
layering... with layering someone would need to see to regular
watering. Perhaps you can use both methods simultaneously. But
were it me I'd bring home some branches in a bucket of water.


yes, i could do that, thanks.

Be warned you're liable to be very old before you see any
berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I adore
Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the
road has some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old
farm house, those mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg


are the weeping mulberry black or white? white mulberry is an
invasive here, but black mulberry is native. those are very nice
looking trees though. i do like weeping cultivars...


I think they're black, or very dark red.

Btw, that's my hay.


well, it beats mowing every week, but what do you do with the hay?
i see quite a few places that hay the big round bales & just leave
them to rot at the field's edge (or worse, out in the middle of the
field). can you use it as mulch or is it too seedy?
i've got 10+ acres of pasture, but the 4 llamas & 2 goats keep it
'mowed'. it's too hilly & rocky to hay anyway.


I have a neighbor down the road who raises beef cattle, he hays my land and
pays my taxes. The farmers around here always leave about 10% of the bales
so the deer will have food for winter. Whatever is left in spring they
collect and use for bedding.


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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:16:18 GMT, "brooklyn1" wrote:


"enigma" wrote in message
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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee


In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than layering...
with layering someone would need to see to regular watering. Perhaps you
can use both methods simultaneously. But were it me I'd bring home some
branches in a bucket of water. Be warned you're liable to be very old
before you see any berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I
adore Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the road has
some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old farm house, those
mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg

Btw, that's my hay.

All about:
http://mulberrytrees.co.uk/


Doesn't look like Brooklyn to me. Where in NY are you located ??

Peter

Zone 6 where the sun finally came out after 4 days of rain....
(I'm gonna go plant something)


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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:16:18 GMT, "brooklyn1"
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"enigma" wrote in message
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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee


In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than layering...
with layering someone would need to see to regular watering. Perhaps you
can use both methods simultaneously. But were it me I'd bring home some
branches in a bucket of water. Be warned you're liable to be very old
before you see any berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I
adore Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the road
has
some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old farm house, those
mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg

Btw, that's my hay.

All about:
http://mulberrytrees.co.uk/


Doesn't look like Brooklyn to me. Where in NY are you located ??


Haven't you been to Prospect Park? Nah, I moved to the Catskills.



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"brooklyn1" wrote in
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"enigma" wrote in message
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are the weeping mulberry black or white? white mulberry is an
invasive here, but black mulberry is native. those are very
nice looking trees though. i do like weeping cultivars...


I think they're black, or very dark red.


the messy kind people seem to like the white mulberries because
they don't stain everything purple. i prefer to plant native plants
if possible.

I have a neighbor down the road who raises beef cattle, he hays
my land and pays my taxes. The farmers around here always leave
about 10% of the bales so the deer will have food for winter.
Whatever is left in spring they collect and use for bedding.


i have some feed plots for the deer out in the woodlot. there's an
area near my border with the late Mr. Shaw's landlocked woods that
is quite open (it's where i have veneer grade trees growing), with
Mr.Shaw's lot having a lot of overgrown hemlock & pine on the one
side, my wetlands at the bottom, & the town woodlot at the top.
it's been planted with forage. i'm not sure about the deer, but the
moose seems to like it. if my tractor had higher ground clearance i
could haul hay out there in the winter. i'll have to think about
how to accomplish that. anything that keeps the deer out of the
pasture is a good thing. they're alternate hosts for menengial
worms (along with snails/slugs). they don't bother deer, but they
are frequently fatal to camelids.
lee

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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:16:18 GMT, "brooklyn1"
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"enigma" wrote in message
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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee

In your situation I would rely more on rooting cuttings than layering...
with layering someone would need to see to regular watering. Perhaps you
can use both methods simultaneously. But were it me I'd bring home some
branches in a bucket of water. Be warned you're liable to be very old
before you see any berries... you may do better to buy some saplings. I
adore Chinese weeping mulberry. My neighbor diagonally across the road
has
some lovely ancient ones in front of her 200+ year old farm house, those
mulberrys are probably as old:
http://i41.tinypic.com/xlw482.jpg

Btw, that's my hay.

All about:
http://mulberrytrees.co.uk/


Doesn't look like Brooklyn to me. Where in NY are you located ??


Haven't you been to Prospect Park? Nah, I moved to the Catskills.


Off the Hudson River Valley??? Like as in Pete Seegar... or Sleepy Hollow
or "Washington Slept Here" country ??

Peter
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i'm headed to my NY place for a week, & there are a couple black
mulberry trees there. i would like to try layering a few branches so
i can bring rooted starts back to NH this summer/fall. any
suggestions or advice? normally i'd not be going back until late
June, but if i need to check the layering i can go down on weekends
(and if i need to do that, i'll be planting more fruit trees g)
lee



I have had the most success with the method my father taught me. Dig
a trench where you can bend a branch down, pin it and bury it. You
can scrape the bark a little and apply some rooting hormone, but not
necessary. I wait a year, but you can check for roots in 6 months.
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I have had the most success with the method my father taught me.
Dig a trench where you can bend a branch down, pin it and bury
it. You can scrape the bark a little and apply some rooting
hormone, but not necessary. I wait a year, but you can check
for roots in 6 months.


i'll have to see if i can get any branches to the ground. sounds
like a pretty easy method.
lee



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Phisherman wrote in
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I have had the most success with the method my father taught me.
Dig a trench where you can bend a branch down, pin it and bury
it. You can scrape the bark a little and apply some rooting
hormone, but not necessary. I wait a year, but you can check
for roots in 6 months.


i'll have to see if i can get any branches to the ground. sounds
like a pretty easy method.
lee


All I do is add a handful of dirt and place a brick or rock on then
check back 2 o3 years latter. Cut it of the main plant and remove a
year latter.

Bill who never got the hang of air layering .

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