Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out an
announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
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Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In our
locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil Strip. It
doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep and maintenance.

On 21 Aug 2003 13:46:35 GMT, c (TOM KAN PA) opined:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out an
announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____
Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In our
locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil Strip. It
doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep and maintenance.



None of my land belongs to me. It's all on loan. Either way, I removed all the
grass from the "parkway" (what they call it in Texas) and planted it with Gaura
lindheimeriii, 3 cedar elms, Muhlinburgia lindheimerii (sp?) and D. inoxia.

No mow, no water, no nothing. They can have it whenever they want it.

V

Those "street margins" are a royal pain in the ass.

Hardly worth the time and effort for hauling out the mower just to cut the
narrow strip.

I'm often tempted to pull out all the grass and replacing it with prickly
pear cactus!!!!

Maybe Liriope or Ophiopogon would be a better idea?

Other neighbors have just cemented it up.

We never got "street trees". All the better.


animaux wrote in message
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On 21 Aug 2003 13:46:35 GMT, c (TOM KAN PA) opined:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out an
announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____
Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In
our
locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil Strip.
It
doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep and
maintenance.



None of my land belongs to me. It's all on loan. Either way, I removed
all the
grass from the "parkway" (what they call it in Texas) and planted it with
Gaura
lindheimeriii, 3 cedar elms, Muhlinburgia lindheimerii (sp?) and D.
inoxia.

No mow, no water, no nothing. They can have it whenever they want it.

V

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c (TOM KAN PA) wrote:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out an
announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____

Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In our
locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil Strip. It
doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep and maintenance.

Cool term Devil Strip, never heard that before. Know the origin of the term?

I'm turning the street margin into elaborate sun-gardens. The city or
county could if they want tear it all out for any reason they had, so it's
always a risk, but it's perfectly legal to plant all over it. The city has
in the past even provided people with free saplings, but I wanted my own
tree choices. There's an official list of permissible trees, quite a long
list fortunately, what is missing from the list in theory is stuff that
would too easily lift sidewalks or spread wider than they get tall or drop
hideously gushy messes on the roads. The list looked random to me though.
I remember being dissapointed Perotia was not permitted.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

Yeah, it's much better now that I removed the sod. I thought of prickly
cactus, but one of the dumb kids would for sure have fallen into it as they go
willie nillie on their bikes everywhere, and for sure one of their dumb parents
would sue.

Liriope and Ophiopogon would work, but they look ratty if not watered. Dwarf
monkey is nice, but again needs some water.

I'm sure I will have a thousand Gaura next winter in rosette. I can always send
you a batch. They flower beautifully on no care what so ever and all I need do
is about every 4-6 weeks go out with a sequitur and hack down the spend bloom
stems. In two weeks they are in full bloom again. Native too.


On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:29:12 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12-" opined:

Those "street margins" are a royal pain in the ass.

Hardly worth the time and effort for hauling out the mower just to cut the
narrow strip.

I'm often tempted to pull out all the grass and replacing it with prickly
pear cactus!!!!

Maybe Liriope or Ophiopogon would be a better idea?

Other neighbors have just cemented it up.

We never got "street trees". All the better.


animaux wrote in message
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On 21 Aug 2003 13:46:35 GMT, c (TOM KAN PA) opined:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out an
announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____
Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In
our
locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil Strip.
It
doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep and
maintenance.



None of my land belongs to me. It's all on loan. Either way, I removed
all the
grass from the "parkway" (what they call it in Texas) and planted it with
Gaura
lindheimeriii, 3 cedar elms, Muhlinburgia lindheimerii (sp?) and D.
inoxia.

No mow, no water, no nothing. They can have it whenever they want it.

V

c (TOM KAN PA) wrote in
:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out
an announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____
Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk? In
our locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the Devil
Strip. It doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's upkeep
and maintenance.




This year, our city council (Lincoln, Nebraska) finally made it legal to
grow anything other than lawn grasses and 'approved' trees in the curb
strip. Not that the law had previously kept people from planting flowers,
shrubs, vegetables, etc. in the space anyway, but there was always the
threat that someone who was po'd at you would report you and you'd get 'the
letter'. The only caveat is that plants need to be kept under 30 inches, to
allow clear views. Now, if they would let us use rock and gravel there...

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:03:11 -0700,
(paghat) wrote:

I'm turning the street margin into elaborate sun-gardens. The city or
county could if they want tear it all out for any reason they had, so it's
always a risk, but it's perfectly legal to plant all over it. The city has
in the past even provided people with free saplings, but I wanted my own
tree choices. There's an official list of permissible trees, quite a long
list fortunately, what is missing from the list in theory is stuff that
would too easily lift sidewalks or spread wider than they get tall or drop
hideously gushy messes on the roads. The list looked random to me though.
I remember being dissapointed Perotia was not permitted.

As I believe I mentioned recently, Crape Myrtle is my city's 'official
tree' and plentifully planted in street margins and dividers. Bloom is
almost over now, and 'pink snow' has stopped raining onto the lawn.
They are virtually no-maintenance in this area, the only chore being
occasional trimming of bottom 'suckers' to make them trees instead of
bushes. They are mostly 'hardy' here, and certainly 'root hardy'.
After an exceptionally hard winter, many smaller ones died back to the
ground, but put up new shoots the next spring.

paghat wrote:

There's an official list of permissible trees, quite a long
list fortunately, what is missing from the list in theory is stuff that
would too easily lift sidewalks or spread wider than they get tall or drop
hideously gushy messes on the roads. The list looked random to me though.
I remember being dissapointed Perotia was not permitted.

-paghat the ratgirl

Parrotia persica is on the approved list of Seattle Street Trees - an ideal choice
for a parking/hell strip. Slow growing to a very manageable size, no mess, no
fuss, drought and pollution tolerant and drop-dead gorgeous fall color. Don't
understand why they are not more common.

pam - gardengal

Richard wrote in
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c (TOM KAN PA) wrote in
:

Paghat wrote in an earlier post, Today the city of Seattle put out
an announcement for everyone to water their street margins' trees
____Reply Separator_____
Street margin? Is this the strip between the curb and the sidewalk?
In our locale (Pittsburgh, Pa. metropolitan area) we call this the
Devil Strip. It doesn't belong to you, but your responsible for it's
upkeep and maintenance.

This year, our city council (Lincoln, Nebraska) finally made it legal
to grow anything other than lawn grasses and 'approved' trees in the
curb strip. Not that the law had previously kept people from planting
flowers, shrubs, vegetables, etc. in the space anyway, but there was
always the threat that someone who was po'd at you would report you
and you'd get 'the letter'. The only caveat is that plants need to be
kept under 30 inches, to allow clear views. Now, if they would let us
use rock and gravel there...

Probably sacrilegious to say here, but I wonder if anybody's ever put
down Astroturf and plastic flowers and nobody noticed.

Pam wrote:
Parrotia persica is on the approved list of Seattle Street
Trees - an ideal choice for a parking/hell strip. Slow growing
to a very manageable size, no mess, no fuss, drought and
pollution tolerant and drop-dead gorgeous fall color. Don't
understand why they are not more common.

Where ya been Pam?
Is it available at Swanson's?

--
Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8b
Sunset Zone 5

Swanson's? The one that makes the potpies without the soggy undercrust?


Travis wrote in message
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Pam wrote:
Parrotia persica is on the approved list of Seattle Street
Trees - an ideal choice for a parking/hell strip. Slow growing
to a very manageable size, no mess, no fuss, drought and
pollution tolerant and drop-dead gorgeous fall color. Don't
understand why they are not more common.

Where ya been Pam?
Is it available at Swanson's?

--
Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8b
Sunset Zone 5

Travis wrote:

Pam wrote:
Parrotia persica is on the approved list of Seattle Street
Trees - an ideal choice for a parking/hell strip. Slow growing
to a very manageable size, no mess, no fuss, drought and
pollution tolerant and drop-dead gorgeous fall color. Don't
understand why they are not more common.

Where ya been Pam?
Is it available at Swanson's?

Hi Travis;
On vacation and yup, although I am no longer available at at Swanson's
:-))


pam - gardengal

Pam wrote:
Hi Travis;
On vacation and yup, although I am no longer available at at
Swanson's :-))

Have you retired?

--
Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8b
Sunset Zone 5

Subject: Seattle's Street Margins
From: "Cereoid-UR12-"

Swanson's? The one that makes the potpies without the soggy undercrust?
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Swanson's small round one have the bottom crust, but the larger Swanson ones
don't have a bottom crust?
Why is this?

Travis wrote:

Pam wrote:
Hi Travis;
On vacation and yup, although I am no longer available at at
Swanson's :-))

Have you retired?

Neither old enough or wealthy enough to retire - just concentrating on
landscape design and consultation full time.

pam - gardengal