ahhh.. just as I suspected, in Australia lolling around in the middle of summer.
pffft. Ingrid

"David Hare-Scott" wrote:


"Helen J. Foss" wrote in message
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I hope everyone is safe and in a nice warm place tonight.
the temperature in Ottawa, Canada is at present -24C with a windchill
factor of -42C with high north winds.
All you folks in 'warmer climes' are lucky this night.
Hope you all keep warm and think spring

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x


Interesting, it was +42C here the other day. We lay about drinking cold
water and periodically getting in and out of a cold(ish) bath.

David




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where you live? death valley? Ingrid


In a (rented) house that was designed by a clown, dark roof with no
insulation, in Stroud NSW. As you surmised in Australia.

We had 50mm (2 in) of rain the night before last - yipee! I can go on with
tree planting and stop had watering for a while now.

David

"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
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Heidi wrote in news:zAZNb.16804$cQ1.940212
@twister.southeast.rr.com:
Arragh, went to Home Depot last week and they had a lonely rack of mostly
flower seeds and single packs of cell trays. Lowes had nothing, but
outside in the garden area, *everything* was cleared out and the lady who
asked me I was looking for anything in particular (you could hear the
echo,
it was so empty) seemed to be waiting for something (like a big truck load
to come in). Weather has been up and down, though ... 70F one week, 40F
the next. (Southern VA, prob. a little south of Frogleg).

hmmmmmmmmm well we got our seed display a couple of weeks ago and set it up
last week. Including the seed trays and Jiffy peat pots. Maybe since it's
southern Virginia it's later? But I do hope we get more seeds because the
ones we have will be picked over by the time the serious seed starters
decide to buy their stuff. I gotta remember to ask about more seeds for
February........
madgardener

"madgardener" wrote in :

hmmmmmmmmm well we got our seed display a couple of weeks ago and set
it up last week. Including the seed trays and Jiffy peat pots. Maybe
since it's southern Virginia it's later? But I do hope we get more
seeds because the ones we have will be picked over by the time the
serious seed starters decide to buy their stuff. I gotta remember to
ask about more seeds for February........
madgardener

yeah I feel it was kind odd, because I could have sworn Lowes had stuff
available at the same time last year. maybe it was the screwy weather
messing with my sense of time. But in other news, a barge carrying a huge
crane ran into a drawbridge some where around here, such that the
drawbridge got stuck open, but not high enough to clear ships and they had
to delay a lot of ships. wouldn't be surprised if it caused truck freight
to get backed up a little too.

In article , "B & J"
bjskeff@removecox-internetcom writes:

Yes, but... Did you have to climb over the top of 6' - 9' snow banks as well
as walk up hill both ways in -30 F the way I had to in northern MN? ;-)

John

I had to walk a total of 4 blocks on a nice level sidewalk.
Sometimes it was Raining or Foggy!!
the worst thing we encountered was "Old Lady Grumpo"
who would wait at her dining room window and screech at us,
"You kids STAY OFF my grass". So of course, perverse little
monsters that we were, we would all be sure to put a foot
on her lawn.
Emilie

"madgardener" wrote in :

hmmmmmmmmm well we got our seed display a couple of weeks ago and set
it up last week. Including the seed trays and Jiffy peat pots. Maybe
since it's southern Virginia it's later? But I do hope we get more
seeds because the ones we have will be picked over by the time the
serious seed starters decide to buy their stuff. I gotta remember to
ask about more seeds for February........
madgardener

yeah I feel it was kind odd, because I could have sworn Lowes had stuff
available at the same time last year. maybe it was the screwy weather
messing with my sense of time. But in other news, a barge carrying a huge
crane ran into a drawbridge some where around here, such that the
drawbridge got stuck open, but not high enough to clear ships and they had
to delay a lot of ships. wouldn't be surprised if it caused truck freight
to get backed up a little too.

In article , "B & J"
bjskeff@removecox-internetcom writes:

Yes, but... Did you have to climb over the top of 6' - 9' snow banks as well
as walk up hill both ways in -30 F the way I had to in northern MN? ;-)

John

I had to walk a total of 4 blocks on a nice level sidewalk.
Sometimes it was Raining or Foggy!!
the worst thing we encountered was "Old Lady Grumpo"
who would wait at her dining room window and screech at us,
"You kids STAY OFF my grass". So of course, perverse little
monsters that we were, we would all be sure to put a foot
on her lawn.
Emilie

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 1/16/04 7:52 PM, in article ,
"Ann" wrote:

expounded:

Lol. Schools are closed in New England because its cold in the winter.

No, actually, schools are closed to give everyone a four day weekend.
Well, not everyone, just those lucky enough to be off on Monday.
Mainly teachers BSEG
Ann,
That evil little thought crossed my mind too!
Cheryl

As a former teacher, that is an EVIL thought. If we had closed schools every
time the thermometer reached -10 in MN, we would have missed at least half
of January and part of early February. The one day schools were closed
because of extreme cold (-40 state wide), we teachers were required to make
up the time on a Saturday.

When temperatures reached -20 or lower during the years I was teaching, I
made it a point to walk the mile to school because it was too much of a
hassle to worry about my car starting. Everybody had a set of jumper cables
in the trunk, but there were times when vehicles had to be towed to a heated
garage in order to get them started when gas lines froze.

John

"MLEBLANCA" wrote in message
...
Yes, but... Did you have to climb over the top of 6' - 9' snow banks as
well
as walk up hill both ways in -30 F the way I had to in northern MN? ;-)

John

I had to walk a total of 4 blocks on a nice level sidewalk.
Sometimes it was Raining or Foggy!!
the worst thing we encountered was "Old Lady Grumpo"
who would wait at her dining room window and screech at us,
"You kids STAY OFF my grass". So of course, perverse little
monsters that we were, we would all be sure to put a foot
on her lawn.
Emilie

Imagine anyone having to walk four blocks to school in rain or fog and
having to contend with a grump on the way! I'm surprised your parents
weren't charged with child abuse. ;-)

In all honesty, I don't miss the extreme cold and snow a bit. Getting out of
northern MN was the best "move" we ever made.

John

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:52:36 GMT, Salty Thumb
wrote:

Arragh, went to Home Depot last week and they had a lonely rack of mostly
flower seeds and single packs of cell trays. Lowes had nothing, but
outside in the garden area, *everything* was cleared out and the lady who
asked me I was looking for anything in particular (you could hear the echo,
it was so empty) seemed to be waiting for something (like a big truck load
to come in). Weather has been up and down, though ... 70F one week, 40F
the next. (Southern VA, prob. a little south of Frogleg).

SE Virginia, at the bottom of the peninsula. You in Va Beach? It was
78F here two weeks ago Sunday; 21F ("high") the following Saturday.
Right now it's a mild 37F. With rain.

And it's not "a big truck," it's The Big Truck, or a series of The Big
Trucks that supply Big Box (and even smaller chain) stores. I get *so*
tired of making a special trip for advertised specials and having some
(usually) helpful and sympathetic clerk tell me "it didn't come in on
the Big Truck." Or "we ordered it, but the Big Truck didn't bring
any."

On 1/17/04 11:35 PM, in article , "B & J"
bjskeff@removecox-internetcom wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 1/16/04 7:52 PM, in article ,
"Ann" wrote:

expounded:

Lol. Schools are closed in New England because its cold in the winter.

No, actually, schools are closed to give everyone a four day weekend.
Well, not everyone, just those lucky enough to be off on Monday.
Mainly teachers BSEG
Ann,
That evil little thought crossed my mind too!
Cheryl

As a former teacher, that is an EVIL thought. If we had closed schools every
time the thermometer reached -10 in MN, we would have missed at least half
of January and part of early February.
Hey - want to come teach in NH? We could use you and its warmer here!
Seriously, there a lot of cases of frostbite the previous two days - kids
just weren't dressed properly for the cold and lots of buses ran late 5-10
minutes. I can imagine between that and the heating costs (there is a
constant stream in and out of all the buildings), it was the wiser move.

The one day schools were closed
because of extreme cold (-40 state wide), we teachers were required to make
up the time on a Saturday.

When temperatures reached -20 or lower during the years I was teaching, I
made it a point to walk the mile to school because it was too much of a
hassle to worry about my car starting. Everybody had a set of jumper cables
in the trunk, but there were times when vehicles had to be towed to a heated
garage in order to get them started when gas lines froze.

John

It really comes down to proper dress - if you have it you're fine, but
heaven help you if you have no clue.

Cheryl

Frogleg wrote in
:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:52:36 GMT, Salty Thumb
wrote:

Arragh, went to Home Depot last week and they had a lonely rack of
mostly flower seeds and single packs of cell trays. Lowes had
nothing, but outside in the garden area, *everything* was cleared out
and the lady who asked me I was looking for anything in particular
(you could hear the echo, it was so empty) seemed to be waiting for
something (like a big truck load to come in). Weather has been up and
down, though ... 70F one week, 40F the next. (Southern VA, prob. a
little south of Frogleg).

SE Virginia, at the bottom of the peninsula. You in Va Beach? It was
78F here two weeks ago Sunday; 21F ("high") the following Saturday.
Right now it's a mild 37F. With rain.

And it's not "a big truck," it's The Big Truck, or a series of The Big
Trucks that supply Big Box (and even smaller chain) stores. I get *so*
tired of making a special trip for advertised specials and having some
(usually) helpful and sympathetic clerk tell me "it didn't come in on
the Big Truck." Or "we ordered it, but the Big Truck didn't bring
any."


yeah, I'm in Va Beach, but right next to Norfolk. Pretty crazy weather,
huh? One day I thinking, hey I should have started some seeds weeks ago
and the next day it snows.

Funny you should mention the Big Truck ... I went to the Janaf OfficeMax
today to get the spindle of $9.99 DVD-Rs. Was there right when it
opened, asked a clerk where to find them and she says "sorry sold
out" ... and the store just opened! It wasn't like there were hoards of
people walking around with spindles. But then she's say there's a truck
coming in tommorrow. sigh

In article , "B & J"
bjskeff@removecox-internetcom writes:

Yes, but... Did you have to climb over the top of 6' - 9' snow banks as
well
as walk up hill both ways in -30 F the way I had to in northern MN? ;-)

John

I had to walk a total of 4 blocks on a nice level sidewalk.
Sometimes it was Raining or Foggy!!
the worst thing we encountered was "Old Lady Grumpo"
who would wait at her dining room window and screech at us,
"You kids STAY OFF my grass". So of course, perverse little
monsters that we were, we would all be sure to put a foot
on her lawn.
Emilie

Imagine anyone having to walk four blocks to school in rain or fog and
having to contend with a grump on the way! I'm surprised your parents
weren't charged with child abuse. ;-)

In all honesty, I don't miss the extreme cold and snow a bit. Getting out of
northern MN was the best "move" we ever made.

John

Well I did live in the ne Ohio snow belt for 20 years, so I did get acquainted
with shoveling snow, scraping ice, dead batteries, walking in a blizzard,
and 20 pairs of identical black "galoshes" with no names all sitting
in the hallway dripping snow melt! :^
We had about 3 snow days built in the school calendar, and if we
went over those 3, then days were added on in June.
I was not a bit sad when it came time to move back to California.....
now I can drive 30 miles and play in the snow and come back to dry.
Emilie

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:04:05 GMT, Cheryl Isaak Lol. Schools are
closed in New England because its cold in the winter.

No, actually, schools are closed to give everyone a four day weekend.
Well, not everyone, just those lucky enough to be off on Monday.
Mainly teachers BSEG
Ann,
That evil little thought crossed my mind too!
Cheryl
As a former teacher, that is an EVIL thought. If we had closed schools every
time the thermometer reached -10 in MN, we would have missed at least half
of January and part of early February.
Hey - want to come teach in NH? We could use you and its warmer here!
Seriously, there a lot of cases of frostbite the previous two days - kids
just weren't dressed properly for the cold and lots of buses ran late 5-10
minutes. I can imagine between that and the heating costs (there is a
constant stream in and out of all the buildings), it was the wiser move.
Kids weren't dressed properly, don't they teach that in school? Some
common sense classes may be in order

Swyck

expounded:

Kids weren't dressed properly, don't they teach that in school? Some
common sense classes may be in order

I see your smiley, but.......that is really the parents'
responsibility, dontcha think? Then again, I think some parents
missed those classes!
--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
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