Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

By the way, remember that every flower pot must have drainage holes, and
generally, the ones whose saucers are attached are a pain in the neck,
especially for indoor plants.

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Alright, first thing here........Helene, I took your post of drowning
houseplant as a valid and real question. There are some situations regarding
plants that, until we get some experience under our belts, we don't know.
That is what this newsgroup is for. To ask questions. Granted, I am soooo
weary of the cat shit and dog shit and absolute obvious answers to some of
the questions that are posted here, but then again, that's what this
newsgroup is for. Because not everyone knows how to do a Google search to
check for answers to their repeated questions.

When I first came to this newsgroup, I was more computer illiterate, didn't
know the computer "netiquette" and most everyone was kind enough to walk me
thru. But after a few years, unless it was something that I hadn't done or
asked yet, I was thrown into the pool feet first to swim and figure things
out.

Sometimes when I asked obvious questions, or was about to post something,
I'd cover my butt and just tell those more experienced that I really didn't
know the "obvious" answer to what I was about to ask, and to bear with me.
Most times it would work. Sometimes I'd get flamed. Which means I'd be made
fun of or insulted.

I don't have a thin skin (or quick to get hurt by words), but there was one
poster who turned out to be a troll that was TRYING to get me to respond
about things I was posting about, and I lit in to "her" and then it was
pointed out to me that this person was a known troll, or someone who
deliberately starts crap between other posters. I learned.

Now saying all that, Cereus-Validus can be harsh sometimes. He is also one
of our more knowledgable people here for really good plant identification if
given all the clues and what not. He does get testy if given vague
questions, but he also recognizes trolls and people who are posting just to
start trouble.

By responding like you did to his barbs (he does have a dry wit, by the way,
and yes, he can be a shit, but you have to overlook those traits and cut
thru to the actual good responses regarding plant questions and problems)
you played right into his hands. Now never knowing this, first one was a
given. But by tell him **** you, calling him asshole, and continuing to
respond like you were standing there getting his cuts, you pushed his
button and got more barbs and insults from him. Yes, this is an unmonitored
newsgroup. You'd not gotten as far as **** you on GardenWeb with Spike. He'd
have banned you to the Disney website forever and that would have been that.
I visit there to chat with other Tennessee gardeners and to check out select
forums that are about all the many things I'm interested in, but I am
careful how I post, so I can continue to visit there. Because there are
really neat people over there too that don't visit here.

I am not offended by words. They're words. Even with ill intent, they're
still just words. We're still sitting safely at our computers, no one has
threated our children, poisoned our pets or ****ed on our plants or
administered RoundUp in the dark hours of the night. We have a few regular
posters here who are free with their language,(me being one sometimes) and
those that are offended by such display respond like I expect them to. They
are "outraged" and cover their eyes and tell you to kill file someone. And
I mean no disrespect in that response, either. The person who told you to do
that was well founded to tell you how to deal with it with finality.

Well it's a free country, and you can -not- listen to anyone you choose.
(or read, which is my point). If Cereus' posts are offensive, just don't
read them. You might actually miss a good response or piece of advice by
killfiling him. You can always tell when he's flaming someone, there are
alternate posts of his and other people's. And unless you want to see the
dry humor in his retorts, you can choose not to read them and move on.

Now I've jumped into this little shit slinging, and I hope I've not offended
you myself. And just so you'll know, Cereus did recognize a couple of
trolls there in the responses. Bob caught it. As did I.

Thru the years you will gain more experiences with your plants. Might I
suggest a really excellent book on houseplants that you can find at a
bookstore or possibly at a Lowes on their bookstand by the service desk.
It's called House Plant expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon and has quite a few
houseplants listed, how to care for them, good watercolor drawings with
great drawings of diseases and such under the problems section of most of
the plants and how to deal with them. It's about $20 but worthy of
purchase. And it's paperback. I have two of them. One for the house and one
for me to drag around at Lowes at work in the greenhouse and outside lawn
and garden department where I work, because despite everything I know, I
still get questions I can't answer yet and this book is a gem.

By the way, having a law degree does mean you are smart, but my genius best
friend whose IQ is out of the ballpark has no common sense. She has
discovered this, and we laugh about it sometimes when we talk to each other.
I help her with what to me is simple things, and she helps me with things
that are beyond my comprehension. And I don't resent it. I am smart enough,
and what I lack there are books, t.v. programs and other people to educate
me thru my walk in life. I don't nearly know everything I want to about
horticulture yet. And probably won't by the time my stay here is over.

What are some of the other plants you are growing and nurturing? I myself
have not only perennials, some reseeding annuals, but in houseplants, I have
tropicals like schefflera (the tall, umbrella plant, not the bush variety)
and the Houseplant expert says to repot every two years, mist the leaves
frequently, water liberally, and bright light away from direct sunlight. I
have the giant leaf spathphillum, Sanseveria's of several varieties (mother
in law tongue or snake plant), quite a few tender bulbs that thrive in the
heat of my summers from Africa that wow me with their exotic blossoms at all
times of the winter and sometimes summer if they're really happy. I also
have lots of cacti and succulents because I adore them. I bring them inside
every year as the maturity of these plants and bulbs and rhizomes and such
bless me with more flowers. Zhanataya sent me the most awesome Korean Crinum
a few years ago that, so far is the neatest flowering exotic plant I have.
My Clivia's haven't bloomed for me. But I have a second bloom from my
Eucharis, or Amazon lily that usually blooms for me on Thanksgiving. This
year she's blooming a second time right now and it's awesome. (pictures on
alt.binaries.pictures.gardens)

I don't try to do ferns inside anymore as they're difficult in my dry house
in the winter, instead I've transferred my love for the textures to the
hardy perennial ferns. And since my windows aren't all excellent in winter
for some things, I've resigned myself to plants that don't mind my house
environment when I drag them all inside for winter. No sunroom yet. And I
suppliment with fluorescent lights.

I look forward to chatting with you up the road about plants. Have a good
weekend. Enjoy summer. Buy a hawortia and learn to grow those, they're cool.

madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler where there are waaaaay
too many plants, and that's alright, where it overlooks English Mountain in
Eastern Tennessee zone 7, Sunset zone 36

Great move Hellhole.

The People's Court finds you guilty of buffoonery!

Now I can say whatever I want about what a worthless piece of fecal refuse
you really are and how your self righteous rants are laughable after you
admit how completely incompetent you are in your original posting. Your
incompetence with plants is just a bit of insight of how incompetent you are
in life and that you always expect somebody else to bail out your sorry ass.

You must be the world's worst lawyer that has never won a case even in a
divorce court. Wouldn't be surprised if you got your degree over the
computer with a home study course.

Get a clue. Get a life. You phony.


"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Gee Mad, sorry to hear about your skin condition.
Maybe it was from years of smoking, hard drinking and wandering around nude
on the beach. Be sure to put on moisturizer and sun block when you go out
this holiday weekend. Take care, babe.

My first reply to Helene was short and to the point. She was the one who got
bitchy and starting the name calling because I suggested she give the plant
to someone that knew how to grow them. It is ridiculous that she would go on
and on in her original posting saying how inept she was growing plants only
for her to be offended when somebody agreed with her. It is amazing how she
could be such an egomaniac and a complete dunderhead at the same time. Such
a twit doesn't deserve to be coddled.

An alleged lawyer that is too inept to know how to do a simple Google search
can't be a very good lawyer.

Maybe she is related to our current president?


"madgardener" wrote in message
...

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Alright, first thing here........Helene, I took your post of drowning
houseplant as a valid and real question. There are some situations
regarding
plants that, until we get some experience under our belts, we don't know.
That is what this newsgroup is for. To ask questions. Granted, I am soooo
weary of the cat shit and dog shit and absolute obvious answers to some of
the questions that are posted here, but then again, that's what this
newsgroup is for. Because not everyone knows how to do a Google search to
check for answers to their repeated questions.

When I first came to this newsgroup, I was more computer illiterate,
didn't
know the computer "netiquette" and most everyone was kind enough to walk
me
thru. But after a few years, unless it was something that I hadn't done
or
asked yet, I was thrown into the pool feet first to swim and figure things
out.

Sometimes when I asked obvious questions, or was about to post something,
I'd cover my butt and just tell those more experienced that I really
didn't
know the "obvious" answer to what I was about to ask, and to bear with me.
Most times it would work. Sometimes I'd get flamed. Which means I'd be
made
fun of or insulted.

I don't have a thin skin (or quick to get hurt by words), but there was
one
poster who turned out to be a troll that was TRYING to get me to respond
about things I was posting about, and I lit in to "her" and then it was
pointed out to me that this person was a known troll, or someone who
deliberately starts crap between other posters. I learned.

Now saying all that, Cereus-Validus can be harsh sometimes. He is also one
of our more knowledgable people here for really good plant identification
if
given all the clues and what not. He does get testy if given vague
questions, but he also recognizes trolls and people who are posting just
to
start trouble.

By responding like you did to his barbs (he does have a dry wit, by the
way,
and yes, he can be a shit, but you have to overlook those traits and cut
thru to the actual good responses regarding plant questions and problems)
you played right into his hands. Now never knowing this, first one was a
given. But by tell him **** you, calling him asshole, and continuing to
respond like you were standing there getting his cuts, you pushed his
button and got more barbs and insults from him. Yes, this is an
unmonitored
newsgroup. You'd not gotten as far as **** you on GardenWeb with Spike.
He'd
have banned you to the Disney website forever and that would have been
that.
I visit there to chat with other Tennessee gardeners and to check out
select
forums that are about all the many things I'm interested in, but I am
careful how I post, so I can continue to visit there. Because there are
really neat people over there too that don't visit here.

I am not offended by words. They're words. Even with ill intent, they're
still just words. We're still sitting safely at our computers, no one has
threated our children, poisoned our pets or ****ed on our plants or
administered RoundUp in the dark hours of the night. We have a few
regular
posters here who are free with their language,(me being one sometimes) and
those that are offended by such display respond like I expect them to.
They
are "outraged" and cover their eyes and tell you to kill file someone.
And
I mean no disrespect in that response, either. The person who told you to
do
that was well founded to tell you how to deal with it with finality.

Well it's a free country, and you can -not- listen to anyone you choose.
(or read, which is my point). If Cereus' posts are offensive, just don't
read them. You might actually miss a good response or piece of advice by
killfiling him. You can always tell when he's flaming someone, there are
alternate posts of his and other people's. And unless you want to see the
dry humor in his retorts, you can choose not to read them and move on.

Now I've jumped into this little shit slinging, and I hope I've not
offended
you myself. And just so you'll know, Cereus did recognize a couple of
trolls there in the responses. Bob caught it. As did I.

Thru the years you will gain more experiences with your plants. Might I
suggest a really excellent book on houseplants that you can find at a
bookstore or possibly at a Lowes on their bookstand by the service desk.
It's called House Plant expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon and has quite a few
houseplants listed, how to care for them, good watercolor drawings with
great drawings of diseases and such under the problems section of most of
the plants and how to deal with them. It's about $20 but worthy of
purchase. And it's paperback. I have two of them. One for the house and
one
for me to drag around at Lowes at work in the greenhouse and outside lawn
and garden department where I work, because despite everything I know, I
still get questions I can't answer yet and this book is a gem.

By the way, having a law degree does mean you are smart, but my genius
best
friend whose IQ is out of the ballpark has no common sense. She has
discovered this, and we laugh about it sometimes when we talk to each
other.
I help her with what to me is simple things, and she helps me with things
that are beyond my comprehension. And I don't resent it. I am smart
enough,
and what I lack there are books, t.v. programs and other people to educate
me thru my walk in life. I don't nearly know everything I want to about
horticulture yet. And probably won't by the time my stay here is over.

What are some of the other plants you are growing and nurturing? I myself
have not only perennials, some reseeding annuals, but in houseplants, I
have
tropicals like schefflera (the tall, umbrella plant, not the bush variety)
and the Houseplant expert says to repot every two years, mist the leaves
frequently, water liberally, and bright light away from direct sunlight. I
have the giant leaf spathphillum, Sanseveria's of several varieties
(mother
in law tongue or snake plant), quite a few tender bulbs that thrive in the
heat of my summers from Africa that wow me with their exotic blossoms at
all
times of the winter and sometimes summer if they're really happy. I also
have lots of cacti and succulents because I adore them. I bring them
inside
every year as the maturity of these plants and bulbs and rhizomes and such
bless me with more flowers. Zhanataya sent me the most awesome Korean
Crinum
a few years ago that, so far is the neatest flowering exotic plant I have.
My Clivia's haven't bloomed for me. But I have a second bloom from my
Eucharis, or Amazon lily that usually blooms for me on Thanksgiving. This
year she's blooming a second time right now and it's awesome. (pictures on
alt.binaries.pictures.gardens)

I don't try to do ferns inside anymore as they're difficult in my dry
house
in the winter, instead I've transferred my love for the textures to the
hardy perennial ferns. And since my windows aren't all excellent in
winter
for some things, I've resigned myself to plants that don't mind my house
environment when I drag them all inside for winter. No sunroom yet. And I
suppliment with fluorescent lights.

I look forward to chatting with you up the road about plants. Have a good
weekend. Enjoy summer. Buy a hawortia and learn to grow those, they're
cool.

madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler where there are waaaaay
too many plants, and that's alright, where it overlooks English Mountain
in
Eastern Tennessee zone 7, Sunset zone 36

it must suck being you, i have also blocked you..........i feel sorry for
you


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Gee Mad, sorry to hear about your skin condition.
Maybe it was from years of smoking, hard drinking and wandering around
nude
on the beach. Be sure to put on moisturizer and sun block when you go out
this holiday weekend. Take care, babe.

My first reply to Helene was short and to the point. She was the one who
got
bitchy and starting the name calling because I suggested she give the
plant
to someone that knew how to grow them. It is ridiculous that she would go
on
and on in her original posting saying how inept she was growing plants
only
for her to be offended when somebody agreed with her. It is amazing how
she
could be such an egomaniac and a complete dunderhead at the same time.
Such
a twit doesn't deserve to be coddled.

An alleged lawyer that is too inept to know how to do a simple Google
search
can't be a very good lawyer.

Maybe she is related to our current president?


"madgardener" wrote in message
...

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Alright, first thing here........Helene, I took your post of drowning
houseplant as a valid and real question. There are some situations
regarding
plants that, until we get some experience under our belts, we don't
know.
That is what this newsgroup is for. To ask questions. Granted, I am
soooo
weary of the cat shit and dog shit and absolute obvious answers to some
of
the questions that are posted here, but then again, that's what this
newsgroup is for. Because not everyone knows how to do a Google search
to
check for answers to their repeated questions.

When I first came to this newsgroup, I was more computer illiterate,
didn't
know the computer "netiquette" and most everyone was kind enough to walk
me
thru. But after a few years, unless it was something that I hadn't done
or
asked yet, I was thrown into the pool feet first to swim and figure
things
out.

Sometimes when I asked obvious questions, or was about to post
something,
I'd cover my butt and just tell those more experienced that I really
didn't
know the "obvious" answer to what I was about to ask, and to bear with
me.
Most times it would work. Sometimes I'd get flamed. Which means I'd be
made
fun of or insulted.

I don't have a thin skin (or quick to get hurt by words), but there was
one
poster who turned out to be a troll that was TRYING to get me to respond
about things I was posting about, and I lit in to "her" and then it was
pointed out to me that this person was a known troll, or someone who
deliberately starts crap between other posters. I learned.

Now saying all that, Cereus-Validus can be harsh sometimes. He is also
one
of our more knowledgable people here for really good plant
identification
if
given all the clues and what not. He does get testy if given vague
questions, but he also recognizes trolls and people who are posting just
to
start trouble.

By responding like you did to his barbs (he does have a dry wit, by the
way,
and yes, he can be a shit, but you have to overlook those traits and cut
thru to the actual good responses regarding plant questions and
problems)
you played right into his hands. Now never knowing this, first one was a
given. But by tell him **** you, calling him asshole, and continuing to
respond like you were standing there getting his cuts, you pushed his
button and got more barbs and insults from him. Yes, this is an
unmonitored
newsgroup. You'd not gotten as far as **** you on GardenWeb with Spike.
He'd
have banned you to the Disney website forever and that would have been
that.
I visit there to chat with other Tennessee gardeners and to check out
select
forums that are about all the many things I'm interested in, but I am
careful how I post, so I can continue to visit there. Because there are
really neat people over there too that don't visit here.

I am not offended by words. They're words. Even with ill intent, they're
still just words. We're still sitting safely at our computers, no one
has
threated our children, poisoned our pets or ****ed on our plants or
administered RoundUp in the dark hours of the night. We have a few
regular
posters here who are free with their language,(me being one sometimes)
and
those that are offended by such display respond like I expect them to.
They
are "outraged" and cover their eyes and tell you to kill file someone.
And
I mean no disrespect in that response, either. The person who told you
to
do
that was well founded to tell you how to deal with it with finality.

Well it's a free country, and you can -not- listen to anyone you
choose.
(or read, which is my point). If Cereus' posts are offensive, just
don't
read them. You might actually miss a good response or piece of advice by
killfiling him. You can always tell when he's flaming someone, there are
alternate posts of his and other people's. And unless you want to see
the
dry humor in his retorts, you can choose not to read them and move on.

Now I've jumped into this little shit slinging, and I hope I've not
offended
you myself. And just so you'll know, Cereus did recognize a couple of
trolls there in the responses. Bob caught it. As did I.

Thru the years you will gain more experiences with your plants. Might I
suggest a really excellent book on houseplants that you can find at a
bookstore or possibly at a Lowes on their bookstand by the service desk.
It's called House Plant expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon and has quite a few
houseplants listed, how to care for them, good watercolor drawings with
great drawings of diseases and such under the problems section of most
of
the plants and how to deal with them. It's about $20 but worthy of
purchase. And it's paperback. I have two of them. One for the house and
one
for me to drag around at Lowes at work in the greenhouse and outside
lawn
and garden department where I work, because despite everything I know, I
still get questions I can't answer yet and this book is a gem.

By the way, having a law degree does mean you are smart, but my genius
best
friend whose IQ is out of the ballpark has no common sense. She has
discovered this, and we laugh about it sometimes when we talk to each
other.
I help her with what to me is simple things, and she helps me with
things
that are beyond my comprehension. And I don't resent it. I am smart
enough,
and what I lack there are books, t.v. programs and other people to
educate
me thru my walk in life. I don't nearly know everything I want to about
horticulture yet. And probably won't by the time my stay here is over.

What are some of the other plants you are growing and nurturing? I
myself
have not only perennials, some reseeding annuals, but in houseplants, I
have
tropicals like schefflera (the tall, umbrella plant, not the bush
variety)
and the Houseplant expert says to repot every two years, mist the leaves
frequently, water liberally, and bright light away from direct sunlight.
I
have the giant leaf spathphillum, Sanseveria's of several varieties
(mother
in law tongue or snake plant), quite a few tender bulbs that thrive in
the
heat of my summers from Africa that wow me with their exotic blossoms at
all
times of the winter and sometimes summer if they're really happy. I also
have lots of cacti and succulents because I adore them. I bring them
inside
every year as the maturity of these plants and bulbs and rhizomes and
such
bless me with more flowers. Zhanataya sent me the most awesome Korean
Crinum
a few years ago that, so far is the neatest flowering exotic plant I
have.
My Clivia's haven't bloomed for me. But I have a second bloom from my
Eucharis, or Amazon lily that usually blooms for me on Thanksgiving.
This
year she's blooming a second time right now and it's awesome. (pictures
on
alt.binaries.pictures.gardens)

I don't try to do ferns inside anymore as they're difficult in my dry
house
in the winter, instead I've transferred my love for the textures to the
hardy perennial ferns. And since my windows aren't all excellent in
winter
for some things, I've resigned myself to plants that don't mind my house
environment when I drag them all inside for winter. No sunroom yet. And
I
suppliment with fluorescent lights.

I look forward to chatting with you up the road about plants. Have a
good
weekend. Enjoy summer. Buy a hawortia and learn to grow those, they're
cool.

madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler where there are
waaaaay
too many plants, and that's alright, where it overlooks English Mountain
in
Eastern Tennessee zone 7, Sunset zone 36

It doesn't suck at all, little one.

It give me free reign to say whatever I want!!!!

Of course now that you posted a reply, that dumb turd now knows some of the
things I said about her she cannot see first hand and she can only fume over
how blocking me was only yet another stupid mistake on her part!

ROTFLMAO!

"chaz" wrote in message
ink.net...
it must suck being you, i have also blocked you..........i feel sorry for
you


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Gee Mad, sorry to hear about your skin condition.
Maybe it was from years of smoking, hard drinking and wandering around
nude
on the beach. Be sure to put on moisturizer and sun block when you go
out
this holiday weekend. Take care, babe.

My first reply to Helene was short and to the point. She was the one who
got
bitchy and starting the name calling because I suggested she give the
plant
to someone that knew how to grow them. It is ridiculous that she would
go
on
and on in her original posting saying how inept she was growing plants
only
for her to be offended when somebody agreed with her. It is amazing how
she
could be such an egomaniac and a complete dunderhead at the same time.
Such
a twit doesn't deserve to be coddled.

An alleged lawyer that is too inept to know how to do a simple Google
search
can't be a very good lawyer.

Maybe she is related to our current president?


"madgardener" wrote in message
...

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hello everyone!

Thanks for you answers, I will repot my plant today.

As for The One Formally Know As the Asshole, I blocked him, and
cannot
see any of his posts anymore. As per my search on Google, all he
does
is insult everyone. Obviously, his perceptions as pretty askew as I
actually gratuated from law school cum laude (with honors), while he
thinks I'm as dumb as a rock. Oh well. If he judges me solely by my
gardening habilities and English grammar, then he's a selfish bigot
as
I am only a begginner in gardening, and English is not my first
language. Besides, I don't spend all my free time stroking my plants
with one hand while stroking myself with the other like he does.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Alright, first thing here........Helene, I took your post of drowning
houseplant as a valid and real question. There are some situations
regarding
plants that, until we get some experience under our belts, we don't
know.
That is what this newsgroup is for. To ask questions. Granted, I am
soooo
weary of the cat shit and dog shit and absolute obvious answers to
some
of
the questions that are posted here, but then again, that's what this
newsgroup is for. Because not everyone knows how to do a Google
search
to
check for answers to their repeated questions.

When I first came to this newsgroup, I was more computer illiterate,
didn't
know the computer "netiquette" and most everyone was kind enough to
walk
me
thru. But after a few years, unless it was something that I hadn't
done
or
asked yet, I was thrown into the pool feet first to swim and figure
things
out.

Sometimes when I asked obvious questions, or was about to post
something,
I'd cover my butt and just tell those more experienced that I really
didn't
know the "obvious" answer to what I was about to ask, and to bear with
me.
Most times it would work. Sometimes I'd get flamed. Which means I'd be
made
fun of or insulted.

I don't have a thin skin (or quick to get hurt by words), but there
was
one
poster who turned out to be a troll that was TRYING to get me to
respond
about things I was posting about, and I lit in to "her" and then it
was
pointed out to me that this person was a known troll, or someone who
deliberately starts crap between other posters. I learned.

Now saying all that, Cereus-Validus can be harsh sometimes. He is also
one
of our more knowledgable people here for really good plant
identification
if
given all the clues and what not. He does get testy if given vague
questions, but he also recognizes trolls and people who are posting
just
to
start trouble.

By responding like you did to his barbs (he does have a dry wit, by
the
way,
and yes, he can be a shit, but you have to overlook those traits and
cut
thru to the actual good responses regarding plant questions and
problems)
you played right into his hands. Now never knowing this, first one was
a
given. But by tell him **** you, calling him asshole, and continuing
to
respond like you were standing there getting his cuts, you pushed his
button and got more barbs and insults from him. Yes, this is an
unmonitored
newsgroup. You'd not gotten as far as **** you on GardenWeb with
Spike.
He'd
have banned you to the Disney website forever and that would have been
that.
I visit there to chat with other Tennessee gardeners and to check out
select
forums that are about all the many things I'm interested in, but I am
careful how I post, so I can continue to visit there. Because there
are
really neat people over there too that don't visit here.

I am not offended by words. They're words. Even with ill intent,
they're
still just words. We're still sitting safely at our computers, no one
has
threated our children, poisoned our pets or ****ed on our plants or
administered RoundUp in the dark hours of the night. We have a few
regular
posters here who are free with their language,(me being one sometimes)
and
those that are offended by such display respond like I expect them to.
They
are "outraged" and cover their eyes and tell you to kill file someone.
And
I mean no disrespect in that response, either. The person who told you
to
do
that was well founded to tell you how to deal with it with finality.

Well it's a free country, and you can -not- listen to anyone you
choose.
(or read, which is my point). If Cereus' posts are offensive, just
don't
read them. You might actually miss a good response or piece of advice
by
killfiling him. You can always tell when he's flaming someone, there
are
alternate posts of his and other people's. And unless you want to see
the
dry humor in his retorts, you can choose not to read them and move on.

Now I've jumped into this little shit slinging, and I hope I've not
offended
you myself. And just so you'll know, Cereus did recognize a couple of
trolls there in the responses. Bob caught it. As did I.

Thru the years you will gain more experiences with your plants. Might
I
suggest a really excellent book on houseplants that you can find at a
bookstore or possibly at a Lowes on their bookstand by the service
desk.
It's called House Plant expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon and has quite a
few
houseplants listed, how to care for them, good watercolor drawings
with
great drawings of diseases and such under the problems section of most
of
the plants and how to deal with them. It's about $20 but worthy of
purchase. And it's paperback. I have two of them. One for the house
and
one
for me to drag around at Lowes at work in the greenhouse and outside
lawn
and garden department where I work, because despite everything I know,
I
still get questions I can't answer yet and this book is a gem.

By the way, having a law degree does mean you are smart, but my genius
best
friend whose IQ is out of the ballpark has no common sense. She has
discovered this, and we laugh about it sometimes when we talk to each
other.
I help her with what to me is simple things, and she helps me with
things
that are beyond my comprehension. And I don't resent it. I am smart
enough,
and what I lack there are books, t.v. programs and other people to
educate
me thru my walk in life. I don't nearly know everything I want to
about
horticulture yet. And probably won't by the time my stay here is over.

What are some of the other plants you are growing and nurturing? I
myself
have not only perennials, some reseeding annuals, but in houseplants,
I
have
tropicals like schefflera (the tall, umbrella plant, not the bush
variety)
and the Houseplant expert says to repot every two years, mist the
leaves
frequently, water liberally, and bright light away from direct
sunlight.
I
have the giant leaf spathphillum, Sanseveria's of several varieties
(mother
in law tongue or snake plant), quite a few tender bulbs that thrive in
the
heat of my summers from Africa that wow me with their exotic blossoms
at
all
times of the winter and sometimes summer if they're really happy. I
also
have lots of cacti and succulents because I adore them. I bring them
inside
every year as the maturity of these plants and bulbs and rhizomes and
such
bless me with more flowers. Zhanataya sent me the most awesome Korean
Crinum
a few years ago that, so far is the neatest flowering exotic plant I
have.
My Clivia's haven't bloomed for me. But I have a second bloom from my
Eucharis, or Amazon lily that usually blooms for me on Thanksgiving.
This
year she's blooming a second time right now and it's awesome.
(pictures
on
alt.binaries.pictures.gardens)

I don't try to do ferns inside anymore as they're difficult in my dry
house
in the winter, instead I've transferred my love for the textures to
the
hardy perennial ferns. And since my windows aren't all excellent in
winter
for some things, I've resigned myself to plants that don't mind my
house
environment when I drag them all inside for winter. No sunroom yet.
And
I
suppliment with fluorescent lights.

I look forward to chatting with you up the road about plants. Have a
good
weekend. Enjoy summer. Buy a hawortia and learn to grow those, they're
cool.

madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler where there are
waaaaay
too many plants, and that's alright, where it overlooks English
Mountain
in
Eastern Tennessee zone 7, Sunset zone 36

"chaz" wrote in message
ink.net...
it must suck being you, i have also blocked you..........i feel sorry for
you

It must really be terrible being him, I agree with you and without further
ado:

*PLONK

John

You are truly a retarded troll, Crapper John.

Being me is still far better than being what you are.


"John Watson" wrote in message
news:a7kFc.15913$7t3.2375@attbi_s51...

"chaz" wrote in message
ink.net...
it must suck being you, i have also blocked you..........i feel sorry
for
you

It must really be terrible being him, I agree with you and without further
ado:

*PLONK

John

Hi madgardener,

Thank you for your kind post. As a matter of fact, I've been online
since 1995, but it's been a while since I checked any newsgroups. I
forgot about trolls and flamers. Even if Cereus-Validus was the
greatest expert on this earth, I killfiled him. Because it doesn't
matter how knowledgeable you are if you don't have a minimum of social
skills. Dry humour doesn't translate well on the net, especially when
talking to someone for the first time. That said, I probably shouldn't
have answered him, but like I said, it's been a while since I've been
to any newsgroups, and I forgot how useless answering to people like
that can be. I can only hope that he too will learn from this and just
shut up when he doesn't have anything nice to say.

Thanks for the book suggestion, I will check it out. I have a pretty
good book, but I left it at work, because it's where most of my plants
are. Therefore, I don't have the name of my big plant, I looked around
the net for an hour to find its name before posting, but I was
unsucessful. Maybe it's a scheflerra after all. I will check in my
book on Monday.

The only other plant I have at home is a pothos, and it's quite
beautiful. Oh, and I forgot to mention the cherry tomatoes I got a few
weeks ago. No red one as of yet, I live in Canada, and we didn't get
warm weather yet.

At work, I have several african violets, as well as an aphelandra, and
a staghorn fern. The fern is quite spectacular, although it's still
pretty young. I love looking at the new leaves growing, it's quite
amazing how this plant has two different types of leaves. La nature
fait bien les choses (nature does things well)

I wish I had a garden, but city living often doesn't allow it. So my
tomatoes are my only outdoor life at the moment.

I like hawortias too.

Have a good weekend too...

Helene in cold Canada

Lack of social skills?

Hellion pretending to be a helpless damsel in distress when she is really an
inept evil bitch would hardly be my idea of someone who has good social
skills.

If she is expecting to find people to kiss her evil ass, she should look
somewhere else.

If I met her in person, I surely would tell her to take a hike. I don't
waste my time with those kind of manipulative phonies.

Yeah, why don't you try something radical like look in a book, you lazy good
for nothing.

Hellion is obviously far too lazy and stupid to be anything as difficult as
a lawyer. An office clerk maybe.


"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hi madgardener,

Thank you for your kind post. As a matter of fact, I've been online
since 1995, but it's been a while since I checked any newsgroups. I
forgot about trolls and flamers. Even if Cereus-Validus was the
greatest expert on this earth, I killfiled him. Because it doesn't
matter how knowledgeable you are if you don't have a minimum of social
skills. Dry humour doesn't translate well on the net, especially when
talking to someone for the first time. That said, I probably shouldn't
have answered him, but like I said, it's been a while since I've been
to any newsgroups, and I forgot how useless answering to people like
that can be. I can only hope that he too will learn from this and just
shut up when he doesn't have anything nice to say.

Thanks for the book suggestion, I will check it out. I have a pretty
good book, but I left it at work, because it's where most of my plants
are. Therefore, I don't have the name of my big plant, I looked around
the net for an hour to find its name before posting, but I was
unsucessful. Maybe it's a scheflerra after all. I will check in my
book on Monday.

The only other plant I have at home is a pothos, and it's quite
beautiful. Oh, and I forgot to mention the cherry tomatoes I got a few
weeks ago. No red one as of yet, I live in Canada, and we didn't get
warm weather yet.

At work, I have several african violets, as well as an aphelandra, and
a staghorn fern. The fern is quite spectacular, although it's still
pretty young. I love looking at the new leaves growing, it's quite
amazing how this plant has two different types of leaves. La nature
fait bien les choses (nature does things well)

I wish I had a garden, but city living often doesn't allow it. So my
tomatoes are my only outdoor life at the moment.

I like hawortias too.

Have a good weekend too...

Helene in cold Canada

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Gee Mad, sorry to hear about your skin condition.
As time goes by, the thickening will just continue. I consider it a
perk.......we won't talk about the Vitelegio I have........makes for
interesting conversation.....

Maybe it was from years of smoking, hard drinking and wandering around
nude
on the beach.
yeah, but I only partook of the noble herb, not the cancerous ritual weed
given by my ancestors to the unsuspecting settlers. The hard drinking has
always been just a love of the vino, and now it's an interesting drink on
occaison,perhaps my falling down fools people into thinking I'm drunken and
not just clumsy g And because of my lack of a good set of nibs when I was
younger, the inclination to be nude at the beach was overshadowed by an
occaisonal skinny dip with Squire when I first met him. I was a bit more
modest then than now. And I've grown into me maturity and don't mind scaring
the fish! lol

Be sure to put on moisturizer and sun block when you go out
this holiday weekend. Take care, babe.

Will do, Cereoid. I hafta. Those large patches of white on me hands will
suck up the nasty rays and give me skin cancer, and it's not a nice thing to
get......thanks for your care and consideration sugar g

My first reply to Helene was short and to the point. She was the one who
got
bitchy and starting the name calling because I suggested she give the
plant
to someone that knew how to grow them.
Agreed. That is why I insinuated that she had a thin skin. (well duh.....)
It is ridiculous that she would go on
and on in her original posting saying how inept she was growing plants
only
for her to be offended when somebody agreed with her.

went over her head totally, didn't it?
It is amazing how she
could be such an egomaniac and a complete dunderhead at the same time.

I'm always amazed by qualities exibited such. Which was my case in point
with my friend. A genius who had no common sense. I was trying to be kinder
I suppose.........

Such
a twit doesn't deserve to be coddled.

nahhh, I don't coddle 'em anymore, Fashizzle, after werking at Lowes Outside
Lawn and Garden now for the last 18 months, the coddling is out and headed
down the road. I guess I explain what is unnecessary. Bad habit of mine.

An alleged lawyer that is too inept to know how to do a simple Google
search
can't be a very good lawyer.

agreed. you read my mind. Get outa there, it's a dark place with strange
rooms of complex and disturbing proportions...

Maybe she is related to our current president?

no doubt....gbseg
maddie

"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hi madgardener,

Thank you for your kind post. As a matter of fact, I've been online
since 1995, but it's been a while since I checked any newsgroups. I
forgot about trolls and flamers. Even if Cereus-Validus was the
greatest expert on this earth, I killfiled him. Because it doesn't
matter how knowledgeable you are if you don't have a minimum of social
skills. Dry humour doesn't translate well on the net, especially when
talking to someone for the first time. That said, I probably shouldn't
have answered him, but like I said, it's been a while since I've been
to any newsgroups, and I forgot how useless answering to people like
that can be. I can only hope that he too will learn from this and just
shut up when he doesn't have anything nice to say.

Thanks for the book suggestion, I will check it out. I have a pretty
good book, but I left it at work, because it's where most of my plants
are. Therefore, I don't have the name of my big plant, I looked around
the net for an hour to find its name before posting, but I was
unsucessful. Maybe it's a scheflerra after all. I will check in my
book on Monday.

The only other plant I have at home is a pothos, and it's quite
beautiful. Oh, and I forgot to mention the cherry tomatoes I got a few
weeks ago. No red one as of yet, I live in Canada, and we didn't get
warm weather yet.

At work, I have several african violets, as well as an aphelandra, and
a staghorn fern. The fern is quite spectacular, although it's still
pretty young. I love looking at the new leaves growing, it's quite
amazing how this plant has two different types of leaves. La nature
fait bien les choses (nature does things well)

I wish I had a garden, but city living often doesn't allow it. So my
tomatoes are my only outdoor life at the moment.

I like hawortias too.

Have a good weekend too...

Helene in cold Canada

I tend to not sweat the petty things and not pet the sweaty things. Cherry
tomato's do nicely in containers on a balcony. No harm sugar. I tend to be
more empathetic and explainatory. I also tend to like almost everyone.
That's my nature. Just a caring Capricorn. I've been here since 1998 I
think is when I ventured onto the newsgroup. I like the people pretty much.
And there's always something to make me smile, cry or go hmmmmm.. have a
good weekend.
madgardener

"madgardener" wrote in message ...
"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hi madgardener,

Thank you for your kind post. As a matter of fact, I've been online
since 1995, but it's been a while since I checked any newsgroups. I
forgot about trolls and flamers. Even if Cereus-Validus was the
greatest expert on this earth, I killfiled him. Because it doesn't
matter how knowledgeable you are if you don't have a minimum of social
skills. Dry humour doesn't translate well on the net, especially when
talking to someone for the first time. That said, I probably shouldn't
have answered him, but like I said, it's been a while since I've been
to any newsgroups, and I forgot how useless answering to people like
that can be. I can only hope that he too will learn from this and just
shut up when he doesn't have anything nice to say.

Thanks for the book suggestion, I will check it out. I have a pretty
good book, but I left it at work, because it's where most of my plants
are. Therefore, I don't have the name of my big plant, I looked around
the net for an hour to find its name before posting, but I was
unsucessful. Maybe it's a scheflerra after all. I will check in my
book on Monday.

The only other plant I have at home is a pothos, and it's quite
beautiful. Oh, and I forgot to mention the cherry tomatoes I got a few
weeks ago. No red one as of yet, I live in Canada, and we didn't get
warm weather yet.

At work, I have several african violets, as well as an aphelandra, and
a staghorn fern. The fern is quite spectacular, although it's still
pretty young. I love looking at the new leaves growing, it's quite
amazing how this plant has two different types of leaves. La nature
fait bien les choses (nature does things well)

I wish I had a garden, but city living often doesn't allow it. So my
tomatoes are my only outdoor life at the moment.

I like hawortias too.

Have a good weekend too...

Helene in cold Canada

I tend to not sweat the petty things and not pet the sweaty things. Cherry
tomato's do nicely in containers on a balcony. No harm sugar. I tend to be
more empathetic and explainatory. I also tend to like almost everyone.
That's my nature. Just a caring Capricorn. I've been here since 1998 I
think is when I ventured onto the newsgroup. I like the people pretty much.
And there's always something to make me smile, cry or go hmmmmm.. have a
good weekend.
madgardener

Hi madgardener,

Well, lucky you for your thick skin, I'm not always able to ignore
someone who insults me. Yes, I admit it, I have a thin skin.

What I do not admit however, is to being a "genious with no
common-sense". I'm sorry, but your definition of common sense must be
different from mine. Case in point :

1) rocks we're covering the top soil of my plant simply because my cat
thought it was a nifty litter box. She never tried it again after the
rocks were in place. They are now removed and she apparently forgot
the plant's previous usage.

2) my plant was put outside as per my annual schedule. This plant has
been outside every summer since I have it, which is about 7 years. Its
spot has direct sunlight only in the morning for a few hours. I bring
the plant back inside at fall when the nights get below 15C. Every
year, it grows more beautiful during the summer and its growth slows
down the rest of the year. Maybe the plant has the 7 year itch...

3) it is a well known fat that something wet will dry when put in the
sun. So for a begginner, putting the plant outside as I usually do was
only logical...

So let's just agree for the record that there is no such thing as lack
of common sense in someone who just isn't knowledgeable...

And last, but not least :

4) how can someone not react when asking a question, is told that
she's a dimwit and should just give up?

I think from now on, when I have nothing nice to say, I will just shut
up. Here's to hoping that a certain someone will do the same and get
over it already. Happy 4th of July!

Cheers!

Helene in cold Quebec

And by the way, I have a law degree, but I'm not a lawyer. I have a
high level job at the government. So let's not judge anyone here and
make assomptions just for the fun of being mean.

"Well, lucky you for your thick skin, I'm not always able to ignore someone
who insults me. Yes, I admit it, I have a thin skin."

A lawyer with a "thin skin"???

It must be a laugh riot when she throws hissy fits during cross
examinations!!!

Oh sorry, now she says she's not a lawyer after all and she just lied when
she said she was. Seems she is far worse than just being flaky.

Now the twinkie admits to years of abusing her plant.

If she had done the same to her pat cat where do you think she would be now
because of her habitual inept careless abuse?

She actually believes the loony things she does are logical? Maybe they are
in Bizarro world?

I once knew the sister of an exgirlfriend that worked for the government in
child support. She had a law degree too but the loopy biatch had absolutely
no sense at all. It is an unwritten government policy to hire the
incompetent. Seems we've got ourselves another winner! The only reason the
work themselves up the ladder is because the more competent ones leave for
much better paying jobs in the private sector.


"Helene" wrote in message
om...
"madgardener" wrote in message
...
"Helene" wrote in message
om...
Hi madgardener,

Thank you for your kind post. As a matter of fact, I've been online
since 1995, but it's been a while since I checked any newsgroups. I
forgot about trolls and flamers. Even if Cereus-Validus was the
greatest expert on this earth, I killfiled him. Because it doesn't
matter how knowledgeable you are if you don't have a minimum of social
skills. Dry humour doesn't translate well on the net, especially when
talking to someone for the first time. That said, I probably shouldn't
have answered him, but like I said, it's been a while since I've been
to any newsgroups, and I forgot how useless answering to people like
that can be. I can only hope that he too will learn from this and just
shut up when he doesn't have anything nice to say.

Thanks for the book suggestion, I will check it out. I have a pretty
good book, but I left it at work, because it's where most of my plants
are. Therefore, I don't have the name of my big plant, I looked around
the net for an hour to find its name before posting, but I was
unsucessful. Maybe it's a scheflerra after all. I will check in my
book on Monday.

The only other plant I have at home is a pothos, and it's quite
beautiful. Oh, and I forgot to mention the cherry tomatoes I got a few
weeks ago. No red one as of yet, I live in Canada, and we didn't get
warm weather yet.

At work, I have several african violets, as well as an aphelandra, and
a staghorn fern. The fern is quite spectacular, although it's still
pretty young. I love looking at the new leaves growing, it's quite
amazing how this plant has two different types of leaves. La nature
fait bien les choses (nature does things well)

I wish I had a garden, but city living often doesn't allow it. So my
tomatoes are my only outdoor life at the moment.

I like hawortias too.

Have a good weekend too...

Helene in cold Canada

I tend to not sweat the petty things and not pet the sweaty things.
Cherry
tomato's do nicely in containers on a balcony. No harm sugar. I tend to
be
more empathetic and explainatory. I also tend to like almost everyone.
That's my nature. Just a caring Capricorn. I've been here since 1998 I
think is when I ventured onto the newsgroup. I like the people pretty
much.
And there's always something to make me smile, cry or go hmmmmm.. have a
good weekend.
madgardener

Hi madgardener,

Well, lucky you for your thick skin, I'm not always able to ignore
someone who insults me. Yes, I admit it, I have a thin skin.

What I do not admit however, is to being a "genious with no
common-sense". I'm sorry, but your definition of common sense must be
different from mine. Case in point :

1) rocks we're covering the top soil of my plant simply because my cat
thought it was a nifty litter box. She never tried it again after the
rocks were in place. They are now removed and she apparently forgot
the plant's previous usage.

2) my plant was put outside as per my annual schedule. This plant has
been outside every summer since I have it, which is about 7 years. Its
spot has direct sunlight only in the morning for a few hours. I bring
the plant back inside at fall when the nights get below 15C. Every
year, it grows more beautiful during the summer and its growth slows
down the rest of the year. Maybe the plant has the 7 year itch...

3) it is a well known fat that something wet will dry when put in the
sun. So for a begginner, putting the plant outside as I usually do was
only logical...

So let's just agree for the record that there is no such thing as lack
of common sense in someone who just isn't knowledgeable...

And last, but not least :

4) how can someone not react when asking a question, is told that
she's a dimwit and should just give up?

I think from now on, when I have nothing nice to say, I will just shut
up. Here's to hoping that a certain someone will do the same and get
over it already. Happy 4th of July!

Cheers!

Helene in cold Quebec

And by the way, I have a law degree, but I'm not a lawyer. I have a
high level job at the government. So let's not judge anyone here and
make assomptions just for the fun of being mean.