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"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message
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http://franksmithdaylilies.com

Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall
2004
introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought
after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are
some
remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours
and
the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics.

I don't like them, they look like diseased mutants~


There were some that I would be happy to own, but not at that price. I
can't see planting daylilies as specimen plants. I like them in large
clumps that can be viewed at a distance. If you only have a couple plants,
they bloom for three days and then are gone. Large clumps give a nice
display for two or three weeks.

paghat wrote:
I felt the same way about the Grant Mitchell daffodil catalog. I mean,
is
there even a slightly lowered chance of getting some variety that tips
over if you pay a fortune for one bulb? Not bloody likely. Are these
pricy bulbs REALLY two-hundred times more beautiful than affordable
daffodils? If they were we'd go blind at the very sight of 'em. If I
was
rich instead of poor would I not think twice about the price? I'd hope
if
I was in a money-blowing mood I'd think more about the needy (I mean,
for
the price of one bulb for my selfish self, I could buy a couple dozen
really nice big perennials to give to destitute gardeners).


Personally, I like to get a lot for my money. My friends aren't
impressed by expensive varieties, and people driving by can't tell from
the street, so what would be the purpose?

But I probably have some stuff in my beds that at one time would have
been outlandishly expensive. It's the same as the DVD player I own. I
paid a couple hundred for it, but at one time, people paid a couple
thousands for a DVD player, even though there weren't many DVD's to play
in it. Their money helped pay the R&D costs of the new product,
eventually allowing DVD players to almost become a commodity, and thus
subject to price competition.

The people paying $200 a bulb are paying for the time spent developing
them. As time goes on, the price will go down as new customers are
needed. Eventually the R&D costs will be paid for, and the price will
drop sharply. And someday we may be buying these bulbs by the bagful,
and not put a significant dent in our wallets.

So we can look at this as a tree, and say that we, ourselves, would
never dream of paying that kind of money, or we can look at the forest,
and understand that it's not such an outlandish thing for single bulbs
to cost that much.

(BTW... It's a good thing so many of us are shocked by these prices, and
would never dream of paying them. It's important to have a few people in
the world who will, but if there are too many of them, the price will
never come down.)

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Blatant Plug: Books for the Pacific Northwest gardener:
http://www.holzemville.com/mall/nwgardener/index.html

(Cat) in
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In article ,
Bobby Baxter wrote:
Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his
fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the
most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look.
These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within
the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily
fanatics.

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather
like dustcovers ;

Perhaps I'm old fashioned in the flowers that I like, but I really
can't work up any enthusiasm over the fussy ruffles that really
obscure what should be a beautifully shaped flower.

agree, they look like ruffley props from an old monty python skit.

tho these two have interesting color pattern
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...unday_sandals-
350.jpg&imgrefurl=http://franksmithdaylilies.com/cultivars/sunday_sandals.htm&h=334&w=350&sz=48&tbnid=6pvdMog nhm
YJ:&tbnh=110&tbnw=115&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:franksmithdaylilies.com%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUT
F-8%26safe%3Doff

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ridey_greeson-
350.jpg&imgrefurl=http://franksmithdaylilies.com/galleries/future_intros.htm&h=259&w=350&sz=35&tbnid=8b_OSEeW AA0J:
&tbnh=85&tbnw=114&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:franksmithdaylilies.com%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-
8%26safe%3Doff

the imgs appear to be very manipukated or overly edited?



More generally, it seems that many of the recent cultivars are aiming
more for shock value than attractiveness - or features like repeat
blooms and scent - which is a crying shame.

agree. i do like some of the spiders which can be semi-shocking and freaky, yet still pretty


cheers!

(Cat) in
:

In article ,
Bobby Baxter wrote:
Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his
fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the
most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look.
These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within
the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily
fanatics.

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather
like dustcovers ;

Perhaps I'm old fashioned in the flowers that I like, but I really
can't work up any enthusiasm over the fussy ruffles that really
obscure what should be a beautifully shaped flower.

agree, they look like ruffley props from an old monty python skit.

tho these two have interesting color pattern
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...unday_sandals-
350.jpg&imgrefurl=http://franksmithdaylilies.com/cultivars/sunday_sandals.htm&h=334&w=350&sz=48&tbnid=6pvdMog nhm
YJ:&tbnh=110&tbnw=115&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:franksmithdaylilies.com%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUT
F-8%26safe%3Doff

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ridey_greeson-
350.jpg&imgrefurl=http://franksmithdaylilies.com/galleries/future_intros.htm&h=259&w=350&sz=35&tbnid=8b_OSEeW AA0J:
&tbnh=85&tbnw=114&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:franksmithdaylilies.com%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-
8%26safe%3Doff

the imgs appear to be very manipukated or overly edited?



More generally, it seems that many of the recent cultivars are aiming
more for shock value than attractiveness - or features like repeat
blooms and scent - which is a crying shame.

agree. i do like some of the spiders which can be semi-shocking and freaky, yet still pretty


cheers!

Frogleg in :

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat)
wrote:

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like
dustcovers ;

?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you
mean dustmop? :-)

With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be
considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily.

thought you were joking but
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=ditch%2Dlily


I
thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if
someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-)

if someone did same in my front yard, i wouldn't dig it up unless i suspected a disease/pest introuction, but daylillies dry out
quickly unless one is willing to give them lawn (tall fescue) level of irrigation

Frogleg in :

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat)
wrote:

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like
dustcovers ;

?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you
mean dustmop? :-)

With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be
considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily.

thought you were joking but
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=ditch%2Dlily


I
thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if
someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-)

if someone did same in my front yard, i wouldn't dig it up unless i suspected a disease/pest introuction, but daylillies dry out
quickly unless one is willing to give them lawn (tall fescue) level of irrigation

(Cat) in
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In article ,
Frogleg wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat)
wrote:

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather
like dustcovers ;

?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you
mean dustmop? :-)

Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian
mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust
off" ;

http://images.google.com/images?q=an...ff&sa=N&tab=wi

With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be
considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I
thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if
someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-)

Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ;

http://www.pivoinescapano.com/
site suffers from javascript disese

cheers!

(Cat) in
:

In article ,
Frogleg wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat)
wrote:

Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a
good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather
like dustcovers ;

?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you
mean dustmop? :-)

Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian
mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust
off" ;

http://images.google.com/images?q=an...ff&sa=N&tab=wi

With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be
considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I
thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if
someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-)

Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ;

http://www.pivoinescapano.com/
site suffers from javascript disese

cheers!

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sparaxis are colorful :-)